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Old 02-10-2016, 22:35
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So according to The Sun......she was advised not to dance by her doctors:

Anastacia said: "I danced on Saturday even though the doctor had advised me to rest after I ripped the scar tissue around where I had my double mastectomy.

"After that I was unable to dance again and I was devastated that I couldn't take part in the dance off.

"I am so very sad to see Melvin and Janette go, they are the most the most wonderful pair and I will miss Melvin's unique spirit and beautiful smile."


So she could have had a bye and Melvin and another couple (Naga, most probs) would have DO.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...orm-dance-off/
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Old 02-10-2016, 22:37
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Diva? She tore her scar tissue. Behave.


Yes, diva because she acted against her doctor's advice and then allegedly manipulated the situation to avoid having to compete in the dance off.

Diva because she refuses to face the consequences of her own choices and expects others (the producers) to accommodate her at the expense of others (Melvin and Janette).
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Old 02-10-2016, 22:37
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If you think that she will get the sympathy vote, then you have missed the reactions on social media completely.
There's a poll in one of the Red Tops and it's 82% think wrong decision was made
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Old 02-10-2016, 22:38
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Yes, diva because she acted against her doctor's advice and then allegedly manipulated the situation to avoid having to do compete in the dance off.

Diva because she refuses to face the consequences of her own choices and expects others (the producers) to accommodate her at the expense of others (Melvin and Janette).
Well said, Holly Berry. I hate that this has happened because I am a great fan of hers and even more of Brendan's.
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Old 02-10-2016, 22:42
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How can anyone sit and moan about a breast cancer survivor not wanting to rupture her scars?! Take a long hard look at yourselves!
I definitely don't want her to do that. That's a big reason why I think that the only thing to do, would have been to withdraw from the contest. I'm struggling to see how she is going to be able to practice a new routine and perform it in a matter of days, as this injury has clearly had a major impact on her both physically and emotionally.
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Old 02-10-2016, 22:42
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It does seem strange, when you put it like that. Two couples were in the dance-off. One said they couldn't dance and so they are declared the winner? How does that work?
The dance off cancellation was presumably designed for couples who get injured in the main show, perhaps being taken to hospital to check for concussion say, and could be eliminated due to a medical problem that might be temporary. It stops couples from wanting to compete when they should be seeing a doctor instead. From a producers point of view this is a very safe thing to do. It's very brave to force injured people to dance.

Anastasia wasn't declared the winner because she couldn't dance. Melvin was eliminated because the dance off was cancelled and when that happens the celeb with the lower public vote gets eliminated (by the rules seemingly).
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Old 02-10-2016, 22:42
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So according to The Sun......she was advised not to dance by her doctors:

Anastacia said: "I danced on Saturday even though the doctor had advised me to rest after I ripped the scar tissue around where I had my double mastectomy.

"After that I was unable to dance again and I was devastated that I couldn't take part in the dance off.

"I am so very sad to see Melvin and Janette go, they are the most the most wonderful pair and I will miss Melvin's unique spirit and beautiful smile."


So she could have had a bye and Melvin and another couple (Naga, most probs) would have DO.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...orm-dance-off/
The Sun...the bastion of truth and honesty (where's the eye-rolling smiley when you need it).

She would have to have been medically cleared to dance on Saturday - the BBC wouldn't have let her on the floor otherwise, as they'd have been petrified of any potential legal consequences if she injured herself further!
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Old 02-10-2016, 22:44
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After Hillsborough how can anyone trust a word that filthy rag (The Sun) says?
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Old 02-10-2016, 22:47
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The Sun...the bastion of truth and honesty (where's the eye-rolling smiley when you need it).

She would have to have been medically cleared to dance on Saturday - the BBC wouldn't have let her on the floor otherwise, as they'd have been petrified of any potential legal consequences if she injured herself further!
So Anastacia is lying then...
Anastacia said: "I danced on Saturday even though the doctor had advised me to rest after I ripped the scar tissue around where I had my double mastectomy.

It was her decision.
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Old 02-10-2016, 22:50
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How can anyone sit and moan about a breast cancer survivor not wanting to rupture her scars?! Take a long hard look at yourselves!
Hear hear !
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Old 02-10-2016, 22:50
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So Anastacia is lying then...
Anastacia said: "I danced on Saturday even though the doctor had advised me to rest after I ripped the scar tissue around where I had my double mastectomy.

It was her decision.
That is a very interesting point. I cannot imagine the Health and Safety people at the Beeb would have let her anywhere near a dance floor if her doctor had advised against it.
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Old 02-10-2016, 22:54
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Yes she should have taken a bye on Saturday night and not danced at all. Then we could have still had a legitimate dance off with whoever ended up in the bottom two.
This ^^^^
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Old 02-10-2016, 22:59
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That is a very interesting point. I cannot imagine the Health and Safety people at the Beeb would have let her anywhere near a dance floor if her doctor had advised against it.
We've already done that.

Two of us have already suggested that the BBC are so desperate to have "big names" in their line-up (very hard to find them these days) that they may have accepted her or her doctor's word that she was fit enough to compete. Rather than have an independent assessment done having pre-knowledge that she'd had a double mastectomy.

This is very surprising after the "scare" with Jimmy Tarbuck. But that was ten years and probably a few producers ago. Ratings are the driving force and could have clouded judgement on this occasion.
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Old 02-10-2016, 23:09
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Yes, diva because she acted against her doctor's advice and then allegedly manipulated the situation to avoid having to compete in the dance off.

Diva because she refuses to face the consequences of her own choices and expects others (the producers) to accommodate her at the expense of others (Melvin and Janette).
Oh how I love the passive aggressive smiley!

She obviously thought she could get through it. Some people decide to go that extra mile for personal reasons, had she known how painful it would be I am sure she wouldn't have. The doctor told me not to drink on antibiotics but hell I did anyway!

Fact is I doubt Melvin would have lasted as nice as he is whereas she does have way more charisma so on a selfish level I am happy to see her dance again if she can.

BTW there is another report that she was told she must not do the dance off. That is in reality probably as true as The Mirrors version. But there we go.
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Old 02-10-2016, 23:11
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Didn't she have her surgery a couple of years ago? I would have thought by now her scarring should have healed.
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Old 02-10-2016, 23:13
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The BBC may have a problem on their hands. Just took a look at the message board on the SCD site and there is a positive torrent of disagreement about the decision. I also think Anastacia has done herself no good at all and the viewers will exact revenge next week. She should have stood down graciously. Either way, from her PR perspective, she would be wise to retire.
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Old 02-10-2016, 23:15
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Oh how I love the passive aggressive smiley!

She obviously thought she could get through it. Some people decide to go that extra mile for personal reasons, had she known how painful it would be I am sure she wouldn't have. The doctor told me not to drink on antibiotics but hell I did anyway!

Fact is I doubt Melvin would have lasted as nice as he is whereas she does have way more charisma so on a selfish level I am happy to see her dance again if she can.

BTW there is another report that she was told she must not do the dance off. That is in reality probably as true as The Mirrors version. But there we go.
I don't think it's fair or decent to excuse Anastacia on the grounds that Melvin wouldn't win anyway.

That doesn't matter, he was enjoying himself and should have the same respect as a competitor. After all Anastacia is also not that great. In fact I don't think she has as much potential even.

And she'll probably have to withdraw anyway - and should have done already rather than let Melvin get shafted. It's not his fault she's injured.
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Old 02-10-2016, 23:17
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Didn't she have her surgery a couple of years ago? I would have thought by now her scarring should have healed.
Scars don't heal in the way you mean. It knits together so that it is not an open wound but scar tissue is fibrous and inelastic. It doesn't behave like normal tissue, which will stretch. If forced, scar tissue will simply split. Her skin may have remained intact but the underlying layers may not have.

Hope that sort of makes sense.
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Old 02-10-2016, 23:17
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The BBC may have a problem on their hands. Just took a look at the message board on the SCD site and there is a positive torrent of disagreement about the decision. I also think Anastacia has done herself no good at all and the viewers will exact revenge next week. She should have stood down graciously. Either way, from her PR perspective, she would be wise to retire.
Absolute rubbish - it's done, get over it!
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Old 02-10-2016, 23:19
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Absolute rubbish - it's done, get over it!
It's certainly done. But people will remember how graceless and unfair it was.

For a while anyway.
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Old 02-10-2016, 23:20
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I don't think it's fair or decent to excuse Anastacia on the grounds that Melvin wouldn't win anyway.

That doesn't matter, he was enjoying himself and should have the same respect as a competitor. After all Anastacia is also not that great. In fact I don't think she has as much potential even.

And she'll probably have to withdraw anyway - and should have done already rather than let Melvin get shafted. It's not his fault she's injured.
I have to disagree because I found her far more watchable on the dance floor despite her poor technique.

It isn't disrespectful to not bow out, she has every right to wish to remain as much as anyone and possibly didn't do the dance off on orders. I am sure she didn't think her injury would hurt to that level prior to dancing, who would?

And actually using the public vote is the fairest of all, hardly a shafting.
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Old 02-10-2016, 23:22
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It's certainly done. But people will remember how graceless and unfair it was.

For a while anyway.
Graceless? You have no idea, nor do I, whether it was graceless or not. It wasn't unfair either.
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Old 02-10-2016, 23:23
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I have to disagree because I found her far more watchable on the dance floor despite her poor technique.

It isn't disrespectful to not bow out, she has every right to wish to remain as much as anyone and possibly didn't do the dance off on orders. I am sure she didn't think her injury would hurt to that level prior to dancing, who would?

And actually using the public vote is the fairest of all, hardly a shafting.
Sorry it was graceless and embarrassing.

If she couldn't dance she should have withdrawn. That would have been the sensible, adult and fair decision.

Everyone faces the dance off, she's not too special for that - so all that 'the public decided' makes no odds to me.

If she's that torn, she shouldn't be dancing at all and she needs to recognise that, not be 'brave' at other's expense.
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Old 02-10-2016, 23:24
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Graceless? You have no idea, nor do I, whether it was graceless or not. It wasn't unfair either.
Speak for yourself.
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Old 02-10-2016, 23:27
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Speak for yourself.
I was. Obviously.


Interestingly (to me), I used to add an 'IMO' to posts and then realised, well of course, it's my opinion only as I'm writing the damn thing!
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