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Tejas
03-10-2016
Originally Posted by Tiggywink:
“I don't think anybody is moaning about that. I think most people can't understand - given that the problem is obviously a dance-stopper - why she felt she could contiue to practise for the following weeks. In a case like that, she could have considered the option to retire.”

Absolutely. If the injury is as stated, she will not be able to dance next week, and maybe not for quite some time. If she was frightened of injuring herself, why is that fear going to go away in a couple of days when she's had very little time to recover?

I kind of hope that the BBC medics step in here, and declare her unfit to continue. Surely they cannot be held responsible for someone who is unfit to perform doing so? There must be some procedure in place for insurance purposes that her health has to be assessed before she resumes training?
What name??
03-10-2016
I think the outcome was unfair. The story now is that she danced against doctors orders and her injury got worse. That was really her decision. She could have had a bye for the week. Instead she only took it only after she got in the bottom two which worked out to her advantage. I don't think she could have known it would end up that way but it doesn't seem fair. I hope they are counting the week as her only bye.
skp20040
03-10-2016
Originally Posted by What name??:
“I think the outcome was unfair. The story now is that she danced against doctors orders and her injury got worse. That was really her decision. She could have had a bye for the week. Instead she only took it only after she got in the bottom two which worked out to her advantage. I don't think she could have known it would end up that way but it doesn't seem fair. I hope they are counting the week as her only bye.”

But she didn't get a bye a such the public vote was used so she could have gone but she didn't get the lowest number of votes, I still fail to see why reverting to the public vote is bad.
yellowlabbie
03-10-2016
Originally Posted by SP15:
“All I can say that if ever I find myself in a position to have to make a choice on my health or continue in a 'competition', then I would bow out gracefully and let the other person continue. Let them have a chance if only for another round.”

As any fair minded person would.
skp20040
03-10-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“As any fair minded person would.”

But the public vote was fair unless we are saying the public vote should not be used in such cases in which case why not get rid of the public vote altogether , the rules are in place for such an occasion and they used them.
catkins198
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by washboard:
“I'm not particularly convinced by the "it's all because the Beeb don't want to lose Anastacia" conspiracy theory. There are other options which would have worked much better from that point of view:

- give her a bye before the show even starts. Then she's guaranteed a place next week

- let her do the dance off. If the Beeb are that desperate to keep her in, the judges will put her through and Melvin will go home.

Either way, 'social media' would be full of the same kind of criticism that we're seeing now.

Instead, the Beeb put the red spotlight on the two couples who had received the two lowest combined votes. They sent home the couple who had received the very lowest combined vote.

Imagine that.

They sent home the couple who had least convinced the judges and the public.

I wonder how long it took them to work out a conspiracy of that magnitude? ”

So why wasn't she given a bye and not dance at all Saturday? If the story that a Dr advised her not to dance is true she was pretty silly to go ahead.

It wasn't a matter of letting her do the dance off though was it? She didn't want to and apparently had a real strop about it. She was supposedly crying on tv although there were no tears.

It is all very well saying the person with the least votes went and that is fair but then we is there a dance off? We don't normally know who out of the 2 in the dance off got the least votes and the judges give their opinion on who should stay or go on the dance off dance NOT the original dance. Therefore the lowest vote argument does not really work. Melvin may have impressed the judges more than Anastacia in a dance off even without her being injured.

I assume that her and Brendan never even considered she would be in the dance offbut they should have done. Why assume she is popular with the public? Loads of people seem never to have heard of her and, let's be honest, she wasn't very good was she?

I always liked her. Love her voice, have her cd's and thought what a great positive attitude she has. Seeing her in Strictly has changed my view even before the Saturday fiasco.

I think it is pretty obvious it was all done to keep her in and as for the made up rule well they must think the public are thick and gullible to believe that
catkins198
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by skp20040:
“But the public vote was fair unless we are saying the public vote should not be used in such cases in which case why not get rid of the public vote altogether , the rules are in place for such an occasion and they used them.”

Do you honestly believe there was such a rule?
Doghouse Riley
04-10-2016
Wasn't there a situation in the past where the judges kept someone in the public wanted out?
Alleycat666
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Wasn't there a situation in the past where the judges kept someone in the public wanted out?”

Several times - Jamelia last year for instance poor girl she kept ending up in the DO
yellowlabbie
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“No argument with that.

You aren't going to please everybody.
The BBC put themselves in a difficult situation and made an "instant judgement call."

It's a telly programme for cryin' out loud, where all those taking part get paid. Winners get no more than a bit of a tatty looking trophy. It's not like a "gold medal event."

Perhaps some see it as more than what it is.”

Anastacia maybe?
londongirlGre
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by skp20040:
“But the public vote was fair unless we are saying the public vote should not be used in such cases in which case why not get rid of the public vote altogether , the rules are in place for such an occasion and they used them.”

I don't think that there are rules in place for this situation, which is why it took so long for them to decide what to do.
yellowlabbie
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by skp20040:
“But the public vote was fair unless we are saying the public vote should not be used in such cases in which case why not get rid of the public vote altogether , the rules are in place for such an occasion and they used them.”

I disagree, Anastacia was the one who couldn't dance, why should Melvyn go without a dance off? The public vote only decides who goes into the bottom two. It really was unfair to Melvyn. I believe a better person would have withdrawn and let him continue.
Doghouse Riley
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I disagree, Anastacia was the one who couldn't dance, why should Melvyn go without a dance off? The public vote only decides who goes into the bottom two. It really was unfair to Melvyn. I believe a better person would have withdrawn and let him continue.”

We've no idea if she's fit enough to continue. Training during this week could cause the same problem. If she puts in another performance with a reduced content to protect her disability at the week-end, how will they judge it?

It's all a bit of a nonsense, she should withdraw to protect herself from further damage and there be no elimination this week. It would be the common sense option.
RFS
04-10-2016
DS reporting that Brendan and Anastasia WILL perform on Saturday

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/strictl...this-saturday/

So IF she polls low with the GBP again and winds up in the DO by the looks of it she will be able to dance... because I am not sure people will be happy for a pass to be issued again!

Still good to know she hasn't suffered any permanent damage....
yellowlabbie
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“We've no idea if she's fit enough to continue. Training during this week could cause the same problem. If she puts in another performance with a reduced content to protect her disability at the week-end, how will they judge it?

It's all a bit of a nonsense, she should withdraw to protect herself from further damage and there be no elimination this week. It would be the common sense option.”

I agree, if nothing else she should withdraw for her own well being.
skp20040
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“Do you honestly believe there was such a rule?”

Do you believe the BBC just lied to the public if so report them, there will be proof if such a rule existed prior to the announcement , I personally do not see the issue with going with the public vote , for six years of its run there was no dance off .
Domestos
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I disagree, Anastacia was the one who couldn't dance, why should Melvyn go without a dance off? The public vote only decides who goes into the bottom two. It really was unfair to Melvyn. I believe a better person would have withdrawn and let him continue.”

Then you should take that up with the producers as ultimately they made that decision.
yellowlabbie
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“Then you should take that up with the producers as ultimately they made that decision.”

That would be pointless, I'm just glad that I don't vote.
Domestos
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“That would be pointless, I'm just glad that I don't vote.”

Well as he had the lowest public vote...
Doghouse Riley
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by RFS:
“DS reporting that Brendan and Anastasia WILL perform on Saturday

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/strictl...this-saturday/

So IF she polls low with the GBP again and winds up in the DO by the looks of it she will be able to dance... because I am not sure people will be happy for a pass to be issued again!

Still good to know she hasn't suffered any permanent damage....”

It's all a bit of a nonsense.

If this were a "proper" competition, as the BBC want us to believe it is, you can't make "allowances" for a medical condition, when it comes to determining a result.

If both were able to perform in the dance off then one or other could have "played a blinder," which could have meant the vote went either way. The BBC were looking for an excuse to keep their "high profile" contestant in.

At the Olympics (a proper competition), if you're injured before the final of the 100mtrs. you're a DNS. They don't make allowances and give you "a bit of a start."
yellowlabbie
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“Well as he had the lowest public vote...”

And she's dancing again now?
StigOfTheKrump
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“It's all a bit of a nonsense.

If this were a "proper" competition, as the BBC want us to believe it is, you can't make "allowances" for a medical condition, when it comes to determining a result.

If both were able to perform in the dance off then one or other could have "played a blinder," which could have meant the vote went either way. The BBC were looking for an excuse to keep their "high profile" contestant in.

At the Olympics (a proper competition), if you're injured before the final of the 100mtrs. you're a DNS. They don't make allowances and give you "a bit of a start."”

It's a Saturday teatime entertainment show. Get some perspective.

Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“And she's dancing again now?”

A carefully-choreographed routine and with lots of medication, yes, she's carrying on, and you're complaining about that. If she'd withdrawn from the show, you'd complain that Melvin was eliminated for nothing. I somehow don't think this is her problem.
Domestos
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“And she's dancing again now?”

Yes. The reasons are fully explained on another thread. It has been confirmed that she did indeed tear some scar tissue and her and Brendan have taken advice on how to minimise more damage and pain control.
yellowlabbie
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“It's a Saturday teatime entertainment show. Get some perspective.



A carefully-choreographed routine and with lots of medication, yes, she's carrying on, and you're complaining about that. If she'd withdrawn from the show, you'd complain that Melvin was eliminated for nothing. I somehow don't think this is her problem.”

She was crying her eyes out on the Saturday show yet she is ok to train this week. You cannot blame people for being 'suspicious'.
Domestos
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“She was crying her eyes out on the Saturday show yet she is ok to train this week. You cannot blame people for being 'suspicious'.”

I'm not surprised she was crying. She had torn tissue which probably then and there hurt a fair bit but probably far worse was the worry of exacerbating the injury further. Since this she has been scanned,been reassured and given advice.

I really cannot see how people would be 'suspicious'. I imagine they are a joy to be around.
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