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Well that certainly put a dampener on things
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yellowlabbie
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“I'm not surprised she was crying. She had torn tissue which probably then and there hurt a fair bit but probably far worse was the worry of exacerbating the injury further. Since this she has been scanned,been reassured and given advice.

I really cannot see how people would be 'suspicious'. I imagine they are a joy to be around.”

None of this would have been necessary if she had taken the doctor's advice on Friday.
Domestos
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“None of this would have been necessary if she had taken the doctor's advice on Friday.”

They took enough advice to severely modify the routine. I doubt she expected to be hurt but having seen that floor slide and the way she was swung by the arms into it, I'm not surprised.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
SP15
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“I'm not surprised she was crying. She had torn tissue which probably then and there hurt a fair bit but probably far worse was the worry of exacerbating the injury further. Since this she has been scanned,been reassured and given advice.

I really cannot see how people would be 'suspicious'. I imagine they are a joy to be around.”

The majority of people who watch SCD won;t have been discussing this situation on forums and social media, they will only remember that she didn't dance the dance off because she was badly injured.....so some just might say... "hang on, wasn't she hurt last week but is now fine and dancing,bit strange that ain't it."

yellowlabbie
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“They took enough advice to severely modify the routine. I doubt she expected to be hurt but having seen that floor slide and the way she was swung by the arms into it, I'm not surprised.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.”

Yes, hindsight is a wonderful thing but you would have thought she would have taken a bye on Friday after all she has been through, to take such a risk.
SP15
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Yes, hindsight is a wonderful thing but you would have thought she would have taken a bye on Friday after all she has been through, to take such a risk.”

Totally agree with you but you're hitting your head against a brick wall arguing the point.
Domestos
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by SP15:
“The majority of people who watch SCD won;t have been discussing this situation on forums and social media, they will only remember that she didn't dance the dance off because she was badly injured.....so some just might say... "hang on, wasn't she hurt last week but is now fine and dancing,bit strange that ain't it."

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I imagine that will be covered in the pre dance footage so hopefully they will be fair and reasonable

Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Yes, hindsight is a wonderful thing but you would have thought she would have taken a bye on Friday after all she has been through, to take such a risk.”

Well yes you have a point but from everything I've read about her she is a determined lady who doesn't let illness, pain stop her.
GabeRich
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“They took enough advice to severely modify the routine. I doubt she expected to be hurt but having seen that floor slide and the way she was swung by the arms into it, I'm not surprised.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.”

But according to what has been stated by the BBC themselves and in the tabloids she was advised by doctors NOT to dance on Saturday. They didn't say 'ok, you can dance but tone it down', they said DO NOT DANCE. She decided to go ahead anyway and Brendan had to quickly re-choreograph the routine accordingly. Now that new dance still included, as has been mentioned, stretches, under the legs throws and other moves I am absolutely amazed Brendan left in considering the injury. If the reported injury is accurate then that slide on the floor with arms stretched over her head would been been terrible for her, and yet she let Brendan keep it in the routine. After the dance she seemed ok and joking with Claudia and doing hip wiggles so she couldn't have been in that much pain after the dance.

Admittedly she could have been dosed up to the eyeballs on Saturday night and the pain only registered afterwards, but if that is so continuing to dance with this now exasperated injury leaves her open to a much worse injury down the line. Anything Brendan choreographs has to include lifted arms, all the ballroom numbers require it, and that's going to put a lot of stress on the area of the injury.
yellowlabbie
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“I imagine that will be covered in the pre dance footage so hopefully they will be fair and reasonable



Well yes you have a point but from everything I've read about her she is a determined lady who doesn't let illness, pain stop her.”

Yes and I greatly admire her grit and detemination and I am pleased she is OK to carry on but I just feel she was unfair to Melvyn.
SP15
04-10-2016
[quote=Domestos;84119442]I imagine that will be covered in the pre dance footage so hopefully they will be fair and reasonable

yeah right just as the producers were fair and reasonable on Saturday.....not.

Well yes you have a point but from everything I've read about her she is a determined lady who doesn't let illness, pain stop her.[/QUOTE]

Then more fool her if being in hold for the Viennese Waltz exacerbates the injury further.
skp20040
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“She was crying her eyes out on the Saturday show yet she is ok to train this week. You cannot blame people for being 'suspicious'.”

People are always suspicious or throwing accusations and their two penneth of how things should work when it doesn't go their way or something new happens. The laugh to me is this time they are getting angry that the public who voted ended up being the ones to decide.
Domestos
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by GabeRich:
“But according to what has been stated by the BBC themselves and in the tabloids she was advised by doctors NOT to dance on Saturday. They didn't say 'ok, you can dance but tone it down', they said DO NOT DANCE. She decided to go ahead anyway and Brendan had to quickly re-choreograph the routine accordingly. Now that new dance still included, as has been mentioned, stretches, under the legs throws and other moves I am absolutely amazed Brendan left in considering the injury. If the reported injury is accurate then that slide on the floor with arms stretched over her head would been been terrible for her, and yet she let Brendan keep it in the routine. After the dance she seemed ok and joking with Claudia and doing hip wiggles so she couldn't have been in that much pain after the dance.

Admittedly she could have been dosed up to the eyeballs on Saturday night and the pain only registered afterwards, but if that is so continuing to dance with this now exasperated injury leaves her open to a much worse injury down the line. Anything Brendan choreographs has to include lifted arms, all the ballroom numbers require it, and that's going to put a lot of stress on the area of the injury.”

Well I suppose at least in hold she won't be wrenched and strapped up right may support her. I'm not a medic but again they've taken advice. I don't want her to hurt herself but she seems to feel she can still go for it and the producers are allowing it.
yellowlabbie
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by skp20040:
“People are always suspicious or throwing accusations and their two penneth of how things should work when it doesn't go their way or something new happens. The laugh to me is this time they are getting angry that the public who voted ended up being the ones to decide.”

Maybe so but I don't support either of them, I just did did not think the decision was fair.
fredster
04-10-2016
[quote=yellowlabbie;84119620]Maybe so but I don't support either of them, I just did did not think the decision was fair.[/QUOTE
The fairest thing would have been, for them both to stay.
Domestos
04-10-2016
[quote=fredster;84119716]
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Maybe so but I don't support either of them, I just did did not think the decision was fair.[/QUOTE
The fairest thing would have been, for them both to stay.”

I absolutely agree.
yellowlabbie
04-10-2016
The fairest thing would have been, for them both to stay.[/quote]

Yes, I would have been happy with that.
Doghouse Riley
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“It's a Saturday teatime entertainment show. Get some perspective.”


Get some objectivity. It's a competition, or supposed to be.
Without the competitive element, there'd be no show.
aggs
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by SP15:
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Then more fool her if being in hold for the Viennese Waltz exacerbates the injury further.”

Not if Brendan asks Artem to choreograph it for him.
londongirlGre
04-10-2016
[quote=fredster;84119716]
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Maybe so but I don't support either of them, I just did did not think the decision was fair.[/QUOTE
The fairest thing would have been, for them both to stay.”

Agreed.
Ann_Dancer
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“Not if Brendan asks Artem to choreograph it for him.”

Ha ha! . Yes it has to be an Artem VW.
kaycee
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ann_Dancer:
“Ha ha! . Yes it has to be an Artem VW.”

Says Artem - "A hold! What's a ballroom hold?"

Joking apart, I imagine Brendan will choreograph a VW that will more resemble an American Smooth, with little in hold, even if it incurs the wrath of Len!
skp20040
04-10-2016
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Get some objectivity. It's a competition, or supposed to be.
Without the competitive element, there'd be no show.”

yes a competition where they reverted to the public vote so the public voted who was going to leave and are now unhappy with their vote ?
washboard
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by skp20040:
“People are always suspicious or throwing accusations and their two penneth of how things should work when it doesn't go their way or something new happens. The laugh to me is this time they are getting angry that the public who voted ended up being the ones to decide.”

[Applause]

Thank you
catkins198
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by skp20040:
“yes a competition where they reverted to the public vote so the public voted who was going to leave and are now unhappy with their vote ?”

You could argue that because normally the judges vote on who will leave after the dance off they could have just gone with the dances done in the show. In other words the dancer who the judges gave the lower score to would leave. That of course would have been Anastacia as the judges gave her 1 less mark than they gave Melvin

Of course the producers wouldn't want that because that meant Anastacia would go so they make up a new rule to suit them.

All the people saying it was fair that Melvin left because he wasn't any good what about the fact that Anastacia also is not any good? Ok the second week she had an injury but she was useless the first week after 3 weeks training and, as far as we know, no injury
aggs
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“You could argue that because normally the judges vote on who will leave after the dance off they could have just gone with the dances done in the show. In other words the dancer who the judges gave the lower score to would leave. That of course would have been Anastacia as the judges gave her 1 less mark than they gave Melvin

Of course the producers wouldn't want that because that meant Anastacia would go so they make up a new rule to suit them.

All the people saying it was fair that Melvin left because he wasn't any good what about the fact that Anastacia also is not any good? Ok the second week she had an injury but she was useless the first week after 3 weeks training and, as far as we know, no injury”

And yet week one she scored a full 6 points more than Melvin. So however awful she was, he was worse.

The combined leader board positions - which is where points were worked out from has Anastasia 3 places, 5 marks and 3 points higher. She beat - or matched him in every area except for one point from Craig.

In fact, just to throw a complete spanner in the works it could be said that she should have been given the chance to put her higher scoring week one dance up against Melvin's higher scoring week 2 dance in any dance off situation.
Monkseal
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“You could argue that because normally the judges vote on who will leave after the dance off they could have just gone with the dances done in the show. In other words the dancer who the judges gave the lower score to would leave. That of course would have been Anastacia as the judges gave her 1 less mark than they gave Melvin”

Doesn't follow - three of the four judges gave them the same score. If three of the judges, or two if one of them was Len, broke for Anastacia when forced to make a choice, she would have stayed. The judges vote individually in a dance off, not collaboratively.
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