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Anastasia - showing why you cant let cancer win, you can still try anything!
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Domestos
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by ElizaDnl:
“So how much money has she donated? I for one am not aware. I only know that she is using her strictly run as a fundraiser, donating her fee (however much that may be) and getting sponsored along the way. I am not aware how much else she donated over the years? If she's making a big fuss about that, it has passed me by.

But I'm curious now. How much is it?”

No aware of the actual figures but she has donated her time.

In recognition of her decade-long charitable efforts in breast cancer awareness, Anastacia became only the second woman to be presented with the Humanitarian Award at the GQ Men of the Year Awards in 2013.

After being diagnosed with cancer, Anastacia created "The Anastacia Fund" in partnership with Estée Lauder. The organization helps raise awareness about breast cancer and the importance of mammograms to women 35 and under. Anastacia began selling her stage clothing on eBay, donating a portion to The Breast Cancer Research Foundation. The auctions were hosted by an eBay Trading Assistant and Certified Business Consultant. New listings began every Friday for 6 months.

Both lifted from Wiki.
Heatherbell
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“Why not? It further advertises the cause? Better than reading about the love lives of contestants.

Why is even her generosity being backflipped to a negative?”

Oh please ! The "cause" is all around us and I would bet that every single person on this forum donates to Cancer charities in some form or other without needing our noses rubbed in it on an entertainment show .
She has called her fund raising charity "The Anastacia Fund" , no mention of cancer (even though that's what it supports ) . That's just odd to me . And only part of the proceeds from selling her stage clothes on ebay goes to the charity . Frankly I can't imagine that amounts to very much since she is no longer the name she once was .
Ah well, good luck to her in all things . I just hope that if she pulls out this week Melvin gets reinstated .
Domestos
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Oh please ! The "cause" is all around us and I would bet that every single person on this forum donates to Cancer charities in some form or other without needing our noses rubbed in it on an entertainment show .
She has called her fund raising charity "The Anastacia Fund" , no mention of cancer (even though that's what it supports ) . That's just odd to me . And only part of the proceeds from selling her stage clothes on ebay goes to the charity . Frankly I can't imagine that amounts to very much since she is no longer the name she once was .
Ah well, good luck to her in all things . I just hope that if she pulls out this week Melvin gets reinstated .”

At least she gets off her arse and does something about it which many of us don't do bar making a donation here and there or whatever. What does it matter how much she donates in cold, hard, cash? I imagine her Strictly fee runs into a few thousand. And I disagree about causes, many people need a reminder or can choose to just let it whoosh over their heads.

Melvin won't be reinstated
Heatherbell
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“At least she gets off her arse and does something about it which many of us don't do bar making a donation here and there or whatever. What does it matter how much she donates in cold, hard, cash? I imagine her Strictly fee runs into a few thousand. And I disagree about causes, many people need a reminder or can choose to just let it whoosh over their heads.

Melvin won't be reinstated”

Well she's hardly inundated with work so I would think this gig fortuitous in more ways than one .
I disagree on needing reminders . We have them everywhere, on posters, on billboards, with well signed charity shops, with street collections, with coffee mornings and fun runs (one of which I recently did), with incidents in soaps and these days with many many adverts in between programs . It's impossible to "let it whoosh over one's head " . Yet now it's on a Saturday entertainment show as well . Not very whooshable really , like it or not .
Domestos
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Well she's hardly inundated with work so I would think this gig fortuitous in more ways than one .
I disagree on needing reminders . We have them everywhere, on posters, on billboards, with well signed charity shops, with street collections, with coffee mornings and fun runs (one of which I recently did), with incidents in soaps and these days with many many adverts in between programs . It's impossible to "let it whoosh over one's head " . Yet now it's on a Saturday entertainment show as well . Not very whooshable really , like it or not .”

She did a tour last year, 80 shows, released an album also. She has resigned to her original label so will probably work on material for a new album.

So how would this Strictly gig be fortuitous other than for the reasons she stated and obviously reminding the public she is still working?

I do feel for you being unable to disassociate yourself from it all, I am more fortunate I can easily switch off from contestants that irritate me.
Heatherbell
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“She did a tour last year, 80 shows, released an album also. She has resigned to her original label so will probably work on material for a new album.

So how would this Strictly gig be fortuitous other than for the reasons she stated and obviously reminding the public she is still working?

I do feel for you being unable to disassociate yourself from it all, I am more fortunate I can easily switch off from contestants that irritate me.”

Well that's good that she's doing so well in her career . I'm genuinely pleased for her and she looked fabulously glowing on ITT so seems to be coping well with the medical drama of the weekend .
I still hope she gets ejected though .She just isn't a good dancer in my opinion . Even 70 yr old Lesley had more oomph in her latin than Ana had in hers on week one .
fredster
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Well that's good that she's doing so well in her career . I'm genuinely pleased for her and she looked fabulously glowing on ITT so seems to be coping well with the medical drama of the weekend .
I still hope she gets ejected though .She just isn't a good dancer in my opinion . Even 70 yr old Lesley had more oomph in her latin than Ana had in hers on week one .”

I love your posts Heather both here and the "other" forum. Always sensible and I agree with you. I support cancer charities, having lost two sisters in their early fifties to the bloody awful disease. But I do hope that strictly supporters don't let it become the forefront of the competition.
Let's treat Anastasia just like the other contestants and not as some sort of heroine for her cancer support and donations. We don't know what the others do with their earnings do we?
Domestos
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Well that's good that she's doing so well in her career . I'm genuinely pleased for her and she looked fabulously glowing on ITT so seems to be coping well with the medical drama of the weekend .
I still hope she gets ejected though .She just isn't a good dancer in my opinion . Even 70 yr old Lesley had more oomph in her latin than Ana had in hers on week one .”

We can't all like the same people and that's a good thing. Personally, I can live without Tameka and Naga for starters.
Domestos
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by fredster:
“I love your posts Heather both here and the "other" forum. Always sensible and I agree with you. I support cancer charities, having lost two sisters in their early fifties to the bloody awful disease. But I do hope that strictly supporters don't let it become the forefront of the competition.
Let's treat Anastasia just like the other contestants and not as some sort of heroine for her cancer support and donations. We don't know what the others do with their earnings do we?”

I agree to a point and I certainly don't support Anastacia because she has had cancer, I support her because I like her and enjoy watching her.
Tejas
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by fredster:
“Let's treat Anastasia just like the other contestants and not as some sort of heroine for her cancer support and donations. We don't know what the others do with their earnings do we?”

Here here!
poppyr
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“Ann there is little doubt that it has been very personal for a lot of people commenting on Anastasia.

The amount of people who have decided she as not even injured is staggering.

She has received a great deal of vilification from many people for even daring to attempt to do the show and even the fact that she has chosen to give her fee to charity has been used as another stick to beat her with.

If you aren't able to see this I would suggest that you read again, but quite honestly I wouldn't want anyone exposed to such spite.”

That is just not true. It's not "the fact that she has chosen to give her fee to charity has been used as another stick to beat her with" it's the fact that she has chosen to publicise it that most people have a problem with. I would criticise anyone for doing that and I don't know how that can be described as spite, it is a difference of opinion. The tone of some of the posts defending Anastacia give the impression that anyone who has had cancer is above criticism which is ridiculous.
poppyr
06-10-2016
Let's treat Anastasia just like the other contestants and not as some sort of heroine for her cancer support and donations. We don't know what the others do with their earnings do we?[/quote]


Totally agree!
coppertop1
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by poppyr:
“That is just not true. It's not "the fact that she has chosen to give her fee to charity has been used as another stick to beat her with" it's the fact that she has chosen to publicise it that most people have a problem with. I would criticise anyone for doing that and I don't know how that can be described as spite, it is a difference of opinion. The tone of some of the posts defending Anastacia give the impression that anyone who has had cancer is above criticism which is ridiculous.”

Actually I replied to that accusation about Anastasia being above critism because of her cancer before to you.

Since you obviously didn't read it, here it is again.

On the contrary it seems to me that those who are not bashing Anastacia very rarely ever mention her cancer.

I think I only talk about her injury, though I am not going to go back through my posts and check. It seems to me that her injury could have been a sprained ankle and the whole situation would have been exactly the same.

There really is nothing special/ different/ beyond reproach just because her injury happened to be due to a mastectomy scar and it was advertised in the papers and on the SCD site that Anastasia fee was going to charity before the programme ever started.

I really don't know why her detractors are hung up on her having had cancer, I really don't see any reason why she should or should not be assigned the common curtesy that any injured human being should be.

Also why be hung up on the charity thing now when it has been common knowledge for 1 month at least.
Dervlathedog
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by poppyr:
“That is just not true. It's not "the fact that she has chosen to give her fee to charity has been used as another stick to beat her with" it's the fact that she has chosen to publicise it that most people have a problem with. I would criticise anyone for doing that and I don't know how that can be described as spite, it is a difference of opinion. The tone of some of the posts defending Anastacia give the impression that anyone who has had cancer is above criticism which is ridiculous.”

Can I ask a daft question?

Why do charities seek celebrity endorsement?
Would they prefer unpublicised celebrity donations?
poppyr
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“Can I ask a daft question?

Why do charities seek celebrity endorsement?
Would they prefer unpublicised celebrity donations?”

Celebrity endorsement is completely different to the celebrities stating how much they actually donate or that they are donating a fee for example. I can't remember hearing very often how much celebrities actually do donate I think most of them will keep it private. For all we know some of them might donate very little and just lend their name to a charity or attend the odd fundraiser or function.

Anyway I'm out of this discussion about Anastacia, cancer, charity donations, the non dance off etc. I feel I'm going round in circles and I will never agree with some of the posters on this forum.

I've stated my opinion which is that I don't agree with Anastacia publicising her donating her fee to charity, I don't think it's fair on other contestants who could be doing the same thing, the fact she has had cancer is completely irrelevant to the fiasco at the weekend, and I don't agree with her decision not to withdraw from the competition, so I won't be supporting her.
fredster
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by poppyr:
“Let's treat Anastasia just like the other contestants and not as some sort of heroine for her cancer support and donations. We don't know what the others do with their earnings do we?”


Totally agree![/quote]

Thank you.
Domestos
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by fredster:
“Totally agree!”

Thank you.[/quote]

I think most just have no idea why anyone would be so outraged. It's laughable
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