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Old 29-12-2016, 11:49
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Sorry, difficult story.


I went up our local dump (Recycling Centre) once and the stench on getting out of the car was awful. It was over the whole site and unusual.

I commented on it to one of the operators and he said someone had probably disposed of a large dead dog or a load of food and they were looking for it.

In general, they are very efficient and if you go up with bin bags of General Waste, they will search through them as soon as you dump them.

I would imagine a Bin-Lorry tip yard is also scrutinised, with or without missing person in the area.
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:06
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Could have been a hookup gone wrong because his mum said he was on a lot of dating apps and was the type to go to strangers' houses because he thought he could handle himself.
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:33
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I think there might be something in the idea that he ditched his phone after cracking the screen, or that someone picked it up and kept it, maybe without being aware of it's significance. Being separated from his phone would explain why he didn't contact a mate to help get him home and decided instead to take a chance that he wouldn't normally.
I doubt it. I think it's more likely someone who broke a phone would keep it to try and get it repaired, or at least keep the SIM. If he was very drunk & dropped it, someone picking it up may explain the movements. And assuming he'd slept it off/sobered up, I'd have expected him to either find a phone to get a lift, or at least contact the base guard post so he wasn't listed AWL at parade that day.

Tough for his family and friends though, and the police investigation.
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:40
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On the CCTV bit. I assume they mean all exits from the area are covered. If he had been on foot he would have been captured. I guess it doesn't mean blanket coverage though. So if he got in to a car or van that could have gone unnoticed. I find it highly unlikely he was sleeping in a bin and then got put into a bin lorry.

The ones around here at least work with the bin being loaded at the back controlled by an operator. Would be very difficult not to spot a body falling out of one I'd imagine.

The mobile phone is tantalising. It could mean he was miles away or alternatively he could just have lost it, or thrown it away or had it stolen. No way of knowing.

What's the chances of having an accident and not being found? Anyone know the area well? Are there any old underground workings or bunkers, canals etc?
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:50
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On the CCTV bit. I assume they mean all exits from the area are covered. If he had been on foot he would have been captured. I guess it doesn't mean blanket coverage though. So if he got in to a car or van that could have gone unnoticed. I find it highly unlikely he was sleeping in a bin and then got put into a bin lorry.

The ones around here at least work with the bin being loaded at the back controlled by an operator. Would be very difficult not to spot a body falling out of one I'd imagine.

The mobile phone is tantalising. It could mean he was miles away or alternatively he could just have lost it, or thrown it away or had it stolen. No way of knowing.

What's the chances of having an accident and not being found? Anyone know the area well? Are there any old underground workings or bunkers, canals etc?
Yes, they mean that there's enough CCTV in the street next to the bin area that if he'd left that area on foot, he'd have been picked up on at least one of the cameras. So the fact he didn't implies he got into a car in the bin area. Apparently there were 4 vehicles that were either in the bin area during the night, or left before sunrise - 3 have come forward but 1 of them is "of interest".

It's unlikely he went into the bin voluntarily (after all, he'd just been asleep in a shop front for 2 hours) and the weight of the refuse in the lorry was less than Corrie weighed, so either just the phone went into a skip or he travelled with the phone in a car and it was either dumped, switched off or the battery died.

It's just really strange how he could completely vanish in a town with such a lot of good CCTV coverage.
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:53
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Yes, they mean that there's enough CCTV in the street next to the bin area that if he'd left that area on foot, he'd have been picked up on at least one of the cameras. So the fact he didn't implies he got into a car in the bin area. Apparently there were 4 vehicles that were either in the bin area during the night, or left before sunrise - 3 have come forward but 1 of them is "of interest".

It's unlikely he went into the bin voluntarily (after all, he'd just been asleep in a shop front for 2 hours) and the weight of the refuse in the lorry was less than Corrie weighed, so either just the phone went into a skip or he travelled with the phone in a car and it was either dumped, switched off or the battery died.

It's just really strange how he could completely vanish in a town with such a lot of good CCTV coverage.
I took it to mean ( from the report on the BBC below ) that the "horseshoe" was completely surrounded by buildings with only one way out - the same way he went in.

" Mr Mckeague turned right into a loading bay area, known as the "Horseshoe", behind Greggs, at 03:25 BST.

The area is closed off by buildings and the rooftops have been searched and analysed by police.

It has been proven that an individual cannot leave the area on foot without being seen on CCTV, but Mr Mckeague was not caught on camera again "
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:54
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The original CCTV on the street showed him dropping and retrieving something.

Phone, fags or wallet? Who knows. He seemed unsteady, but that's just my interpretation.

Then he went round the corner and wasn't seen again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-37541137
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:55
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I took it to mean that the "horseshoe" was completely surrounded by buildings with only one way out - the same way he went in.
Yes, that's correct.
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:55
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The original CCTV on the street showed him dropping and retrieving something.

Phone, fags or wallet? Who knows. He seemed unsteady, but that's just my interpretation.

Then he went round the corner and wasn't seen again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-37541137
He'd got chips with him at the time and his mum said he dropped a chip and picked that up.
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Old 29-12-2016, 14:58
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Interesting the police say they don't think he had the phone with him when the movements were tracked. How would they know one way or the other?
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Old 29-12-2016, 15:07
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He'd got chips with him at the time and his mum said he dropped a chip and picked that up.
Seems to fit the video too.

He had something white in his hand. Could be a phone screen or a bag of chips.

Presumably the police have interviewed the chip shop owners.

I can't guess any more. Just speculation.
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Old 29-12-2016, 16:25
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Interesting the police say they don't think he had the phone with him when the movements were tracked. How would they know one way or the other?
Pattern analysis probably. People tend to be creatures of habit & the phone logs may have shown calls/connections to unusual stuff. Same's usually true for routes people follow, ie from where he was last seen back to the base.. Especially if that's a route that's been used often. So search from where you know he was to where he was expected to be, and see what you can find. I wonder what the weather was like at the time because he wasn't wearing much and a combination of cold + alchohol can quickly lead to hypothermia and paradoxical behaviour. The police and RAF would know that though, especially if any of their SERE lot have been helping with the search.
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Old 30-12-2016, 14:51
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Around 200,000 people go missing in the UK every year, of which around 30,000 are never seen again.
The NCA has some figures here, although there are from 2012/2013.

There were 306,000 missing reports that year.
89% were resolved within 48 hours.
97% are found safe and well in the end.

That leaves 9,180 not solved.
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Old 30-12-2016, 15:07
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I think he was gay,or bi been on the drink felt horny,got on one of he's apps arranged to be picked up from the horseshoe ( that explains why he wasn't seen leaving on foot yet four vehicles entered the place also explains the mobile signal moving ) and sadly looks like another gay killer is out there quite a few have used Grindr etc to get men ,hope I am wrong and he is alive but it's a long time to vanish
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Old 30-12-2016, 15:24
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It must be totally awful for the family. There was a similar case near me a few years back. A man called Vinny Derrick got out of a cab on the A34 after a night out in Manchester and was never seen again. Despite massive searches his body wasn't found for 8 years. It was found by one of Manchester's busiest motorway junctions. It was likely that he fell off a bridge into deep undergrowth and died instantly.

I think he was too drunk to have planned a disappearance and it can't be a kidnapping now. So sad for everyone involved.
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Old 01-01-2017, 19:38
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I think he was gay,or bi been on the drink felt horny,got on one of he's apps arranged to be picked up from the horseshoe ( that explains why he wasn't seen leaving on foot yet four vehicles entered the place also explains the mobile signal moving ) and sadly looks like another gay killer is out there quite a few have used Grindr etc to get men ,hope I am wrong and he is alive but it's a long time to vanish
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...linked-9537441

The family have released a vid of him today: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/251395...leased-family/
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Old Yesterday, 12:47
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Corrie's mum was on This Morning earlier today. To be honest, I hadn't really paid much attention to this story apart from the first couple of days - it's heart breaking and I don't know how the family got through Christmas.

I really don't know how he can have disappeared though as he did go down an alley that was a dead end and was never seen again. I did wonder about the bin lorry theory but that was discounted due to the weight of the bin - presumably the police did check this out anyway even though the bin company said that they weighed the bin and it was in the acceptable range.

Edit - sorry - meant to post the link to the This Morning article
http://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-t...son-findcorrie
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Old Yesterday, 13:48
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Corrie's mum was on This Morning earlier today. To be honest, I hadn't really paid much attention to this story apart from the first couple of days - it's heart breaking and I don't know how the family got through Christmas.

I really don't know how he can have disappeared though as he did go down an alley that was a dead end and was never seen again. I did wonder about the bin lorry theory but that was discounted due to the weight of the bin - presumably the police did check this out anyway even though the bin company said that they weighed the bin and it was in the acceptable range.

Edit - sorry - meant to post the link to the This Morning article
http://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-t...son-findcorrie
I watched it as I've been following this ever since it was announced that Corrie was missing. Bury St Edmunds is just thirty miles or so away from where I live so feels particularly relevant. I truly hope he is found soon. Makes me think so much of 19 year old Luke Durbin who disappeared in the early hours after a night out in Ipswich in 2006. There were sightings of him too in the town on CCTV but he also vanished. His mum tries her best to keep his name in the news too but so far he has never been traced. Can only imagine the nightmare it must be for both Corrie and Luke's families.
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