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Old 04-10-2016, 11:43
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I'm just about to start a College project about British TV in Gibraltar.

Has anyone been there or currently lives there that could help me identify the main providers and what kind of channel lineups the services have?

I've found U-mee thus far but couldn't find a channel lineup on their site, and they haven't responded to my queries. I'm not sure whether most folks there subscribe to this service or whether there are other players.

Thanks for any help!
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Old 04-10-2016, 13:09
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Well start googling !!!!
http://www.yourgibraltartv.com/news/...e-in-gibraltar
And that webiste looks a good starting point !!!
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Old 04-10-2016, 13:29
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Well start googling !!!!
http://www.yourgibraltartv.com/news/...e-in-gibraltar
And that webiste looks a good starting point !!!
I have done an initial Google search and came across that page, but it doesn't tell me very much.

I was hoping to hear from people who have visited or live there.
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Old 04-10-2016, 13:40
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Would probably be helpful if you listed the pages you've looked at. This is a good start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commun...s_in_Gibraltar

Digital Spy is aimed more at the UK so a general forum about Gibraltar may yield stronger reults.
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Old 04-10-2016, 13:41
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I have done an initial Google search and came across that page, but it doesn't tell me very much.

I was hoping to hear from people who have visited or live there.

The Local TV is run by the local Government, It previously broadcast on analogue channel 8, vertical polarized, and was received along the Costa Del Sol as far as
Fuengirola and parts of Benalmedina.
Now that the transmission is digital it can be received on the rock and some parts of
La Linea, Most people watch TV via cable and all the Spanish stations can be received together with a range of services in English. The BFBS, TV and radio, is relayed to troops on the rock. The BBC World Service continues to be relayed on 1485 AM with a rather
low powered signal.
After dark, on high ground, it is possible to receive Radio 4 on 198 LF, but this suffers
from severe interference from Algeria.
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Old 04-10-2016, 13:43
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Plenty of the bars had Sky installed when I was there but this was a good 10 years ago so I dont know if this is still the case.
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Old 04-10-2016, 14:20
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Plenty of the bars had Sky installed when I was there but this was a good 10 years ago so I dont know if this is still the case.
I do know the 'footprint' of the BBC and ITV transmissions have changed to make it harder to receive them in parts of Spain. I don't know if that applies to Sky Sports though.
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Old 04-10-2016, 14:24
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gbc.gi is a good place to start...
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Old 04-10-2016, 16:06
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Just putting Gibraltar TV into Google produced 18 results. I suggest that there is no point in you doing this, or perhaps any, "project" if you can't even do that. As a project for college you will have to show what you have done, getting someone on DS to do all your work for you isn't going to cut it. What course are you doing? If it is media studies think again as it is not recognised in the media world as a valid qualification for anything apart from a Starbucks barista.
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Old 04-10-2016, 16:32
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I went to Gibraltar a few years back, and was surprised to find a rather ancient B&W turret lens image orthocon TV camera mounted on a Vinten dolly in the local museum. Can't remember if it was a PYE, EMI or Marconi, it's probably still there.
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Old 04-10-2016, 16:50
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So I found this and a channel lineup is included.

Can anyone in the know tell me whether this is rather like one of the old Spanish microwave retransmission services aimed at expats, and/or is it a service that is popular amongst expats?

And I presume they have obtained legal & above board retransmission agreements with broadcasters like Sky and BT?
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Old 04-10-2016, 22:22
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The BFBS method is to use DVB_T to distribute into Forces accommodation over co-ax, so its entirely private to the MoD. In other territories (eg Stanley and Tristrain da Chuna) low powered over-air is used, so the civilian populous can watch at least BBC1, BBC2, ITV and Sky News.

I always thought it a pity that Gib isn't an ITV region and that they don't have a 1 mega watt analogue transmitter on the top of the rock, putting a signal right up the Costa del Sol. If Gibraltar were French, that's exactly what they'd have done! Well, Associated Redifusion used to broadcast in Malta, so why not Gib too?
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Old 04-10-2016, 23:41
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I have done an initial Google search and came across that page, but it doesn't tell me very much.

I was hoping to hear from people who have visited or live there.
Well it points to other places like gbc.gi which then gives you more
And to Arqiva.com which has other information ....
And both have some dates and topics around which you may search the Gibraltar newspapers to give you some more information....
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Old 05-10-2016, 00:31
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The BFBS method is to use DVB_T to distribute into Forces accommodation over co-ax, so its entirely private to the MoD. In other territories (eg Stanley and Tristrain da Chuna) low powered over-air is used, so the civilian populous can watch at least BBC1, BBC2, ITV and Sky News.

I always thought it a pity that Gib isn't an ITV region and that they don't have a 1 mega watt analogue transmitter on the top of the rock, putting a signal right up the Costa del Sol. If Gibraltar were French, that's exactly what they'd have done! Well, Associated Redifusion used to broadcast in Malta, so why not Gib too?
Presumably the Spanish would complain if they transmitter putting out a high power signal, they like to complain about everything! What do they do in their colonies around the North West African coast, presumably they transmit to the Spanish colonists there?
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Old 05-10-2016, 07:34
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Presumably the Spanish would complain if they transmitter putting out a high power signal, they like to complain about everything! What do they do in their colonies around the North West African coast, presumably they transmit to the Spanish colonists there?
Interesting, yes they must do. Ceuta has a local station: RTVCE. RTVE distributes to all the Spanish islands and enclaves, so must be in Ceuta and Melilla. Presumably some if not all of the commercial DTT is there too.

http://oklivetv.com/rtv-ceuta-rtvce-live/
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Old 05-10-2016, 14:21
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According to wiki Gibraltar TV broadcasts on VHF as well as UHF. I've no idea how up to date that information is though....
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Old 05-10-2016, 15:12
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Interesting, yes they must do. Ceuta has a local station: RTVCE. RTVE distributes to all the Spanish islands and enclaves, so must be in Ceuta and Melilla. Presumably some if not all of the commercial DTT is there too.

http://oklivetv.com/rtv-ceuta-rtvce-live/
Both of them have the full spanish Freeview (TDT) plus a regional mux, they are simply considered part of Spain in that matter.
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Old 06-10-2016, 07:46
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Just putting Gibraltar TV into Google produced 18 results. I suggest that there is no point in you doing this, or perhaps any, "project" if you can't even do that. As a project for college you will have to show what you have done, getting someone on DS to do all your work for you isn't going to cut it. What course are you doing? If it is media studies think again as it is not recognised in the media world as a valid qualification for anything apart from a Starbucks barista.
Anyway, JimmyCarrFan, hope you're enjoying the warm welcome to the Broadcast forum.
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Old 06-10-2016, 11:49
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I always thought it a pity that Gib isn't an ITV region and that they don't have a 1 mega watt analogue transmitter on the top of the rock, putting a signal right up the Costa del Sol. If Gibraltar were French, that's exactly what they'd have done! Well, Associated Redifusion used to broadcast in Malta, so why not Gib too?
A bit (well a lot) too late now, but I think that station would have been massive in the 1970s and 80s as the package holiday boom to the Costa del Sol took off.

"Redifusion Gibraltar- ITV in the sunshine". I like it. I like it a lot. I wonder if anyone ever considered it
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Old 18-12-2016, 20:51
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A bit (well a lot) too late now, but I think that station would have been massive in the 1970s and 80s as the package holiday boom to the Costa del Sol took off.

"Redifusion Gibraltar- ITV in the sunshine". I like it. I like it a lot. I wonder if anyone ever considered it
But how would the ITV network signal have gotten to Gibraltar back then? I know that TVE used trans-Atlantic satellites to get the national news -- and only the national news -- live to its station in the Canary Islands in the 1970s, but satellite transmissions were very expensive at the time, so I'm having a hard time imagining a full-time UK-to-Gibraltar satellite link for such a small population.
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Old 19-12-2016, 07:48
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TVE (on the instructions of the Spanish government) always refused to give Gib TV a microwave feed which was the way most programmes were distributed in those days.Also meant Gib TV couldn't feed anything out.
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Old 19-12-2016, 13:29
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There was a spin-off series of the ITV Comedy 'On The Buses', starring the late Stephen Lewis as the retired 'Blakey' now living in mainland Spain in "Don't Drink the Water". In one episode he nearly gets arrested for trying to receive English language TV from Gibraltar (presumably episode #8 in series 2 on this list "What, No Telly?"). I vaguely remember watching this at the time. Broadcast in 1975 it's a reminder how poor the relationship between Britain and Spain over Gibraltar could be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27...ter_(TV_series)
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Old 19-12-2016, 13:38
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But how would the ITV network signal have gotten to Gibraltar back then? I know that TVE used trans-Atlantic satellites to get the national news -- and only the national news -- live to its station in the Canary Islands in the 1970s, but satellite transmissions were very expensive at the time, so I'm having a hard time imagining a full-time UK-to-Gibraltar satellite link for such a small population.
There wouldn't have been any live service, it would have consisted of tapes being sent out.

The only live UK TV service into Europe (pre satellite) that I'm aware of was BFBS's operation in the early 80s, that relayed live (and recorded) BBC and ITV programmes into Germany. Europe's longest microwave link was established, from Wembley deep into Germany.

https://youtu.be/CJemXKSEIvY
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Old 19-12-2016, 14:26
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But how would the ITV network signal have gotten to Gibraltar back then? I know that TVE used trans-Atlantic satellites to get the national news -- and only the national news -- live to its station in the Canary Islands in the 1970s, but satellite transmissions were very expensive at the time, so I'm having a hard time imagining a full-time UK-to-Gibraltar satellite link for such a small population.
Dunno but most French territories around the world have full access to the domestic French channels. How have they done it for so long? Same with the US, look at places like Guam.

No idea why we don't do it with our overseas territories.
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Old 19-12-2016, 14:41
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www.viewtelly.com
Has a good few UK channels
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