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Anastacia and Brendan Cole WILL perform this Saturday
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Ann_Dancer
05-10-2016
I really don't think she'll be in the dance off this or even next week.
Rhumbatugger
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ann_Dancer:
“I really don't think she'll be in the dance off this or even next week.”

I don't either. And it will have nothing to do with her dancing.
Grumpy_Alan
05-10-2016
Reading the many posts on this subject I am tempted to ask the one question that has no appeared.

"Who, or what, or indeed, why, is Anastacia?"

But, in a more serious vein, given all the comments, it would not be a total surprise if she made it to the finals now.

Judges will be loathe to criticise her dancing because of her "health" issues.

Must give her every credit for really trying, even if she isn't doing any challenging routines as the other contestants are expected to handle.

Public must vote for her because, it appears, (all too often), that she is donating her fee to charity. (Obviously, she feels that she is quite unique in supporting a charity; no one has ever done that before.)
GabeRich
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Amethyzt:
“Surely then, Anastacia would have to withdraw on medical grounds. If she was unfit/unable to perform in the DO, then I think she would have to accept she had reached the end.”

You would imagine so wouldn't you ... ahhh, but wait, now there's that annoying new rule the BBC found that states if a dancer cannot compete in a DO its down to the viewer votes. If she performs, but is in the bottom two again, technically she could say she is unfit to dance in the DO and hope her viewer votes are higher and no one could tell her she can't <shrugs>
mad_madge_morri
05-10-2016
Even if she was in the dace off, she'd only plead injury and I bet it would be the same result and we could lose a good dancer
GabeRich
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“She would have to withdraw - because she has already used her allowed bye.”

Ahh, yes, but it wasn't a bye, it was an 'established rule' that if a dancer cannot compete in the DO its down to viewers votes. Thats not a bye, its a continuing rule.
coppertop1
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by mad_madge_morri:
“Even if she was in the dace off, she'd only plead injury and I bet it would be the same result and we could lose a good dancer”

Really there is only 1 way to stop that happening, vote for anyone you feel is a good dancer.

But really you think against all common sense someone would be so foolish as to ignore the backlash of doing that?
Bless You
05-10-2016
That's when I'll be making a cuppa then.
aggs
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by mad_madge_morri:
“Even if she was in the dace off, she'd only plead injury and I bet it would be the same result and we could lose a good dancer”

It would only be the same result if the other bottom 2-er was also below her in the public vote - and I don't actually think she will be allowed to, anyway.

I actually hope she does dance, because that is the best way to ensure Melvin leaving wasn't for nothing.
I hope she does a nice, gentle, wafty, Artem inspired VW.
I hope she gets encouraging comments and a fair mark.
If she is bottom 2 and eliminated I hope she can feel proud of the dance she did and leave her Strictly experience on a positive note.
Heatherbell
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“Strictly have an established policy of - If with the combined scores, the result is a draw, the celeb with the highest public vote will be considered to be higher placed - so they have established precedence for the public vote since some point after Series 6.”

The foundation policy in Strictly appears to be "Keep the big names in as long as possible " . If that means messing around with the rules or letting Joe Shmo get ejecyed unfairly then so be it .Bye bye Joe .
At this point I regard Anastacia as one of those annoying charity workers who steps into your path on the street rattling a collection box in your face .
I admire charity workers but resent being guilted by them .

She'll dance prettily on Sat , in a stunning gown (no 50's Kellie drab for her) and she'll be heaped with praise .Can't wait .
Pam_Kerr
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“Benefitting from a charitable donation is one thing
A documentary about Breast Cancer is another
Hijacking a light entertainment show is quite different.”

Being a thoroughly nasty person is another. You seem to have an agenda all of your own and you don't come across as anyone I would like to know.
Cadiva
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by hilary2329:
“I seem to remember that this was only in series 1 where a percentage of the income from the telephone vote went to CIN but when they announced the next year that this was no longer the case and all the phone call money went to the Beeb I then stopped voting and have only done so again since 3 online votes were free!”

The money has never gone to the BBC, as has been mentioned previously, Season One of SCD benefited Spots Relief, then Seasons Two through to Five benefited Children In Need and since Season Six onwards, the cost of the call has gone down and the third party providing the service (in this case BT) is simply funded for doing so.

Any left over profits which now are made (usually through people calling the line when they're not open) go to various different entertainment related charities I believe.

Originally Posted by VintageWhine:
“I thought that the BBC were stopped from running the phone-in vote, because their charter didn't permit them to make a profit from such a device (even though proceeds went to CiN). And that they handed it over to an independent company (with profits going where???).”

No, the phone votes were stopped after controversy over the Blue Peter "name the cat" competition and Ofcom then decided that no programme, unless it was directly a telemarketing marathon event (like CinN) could use phone voting to raise money.

British Telecom provides the voting services and they don't receive any profits either, just the cost of the call, which is why it's now only 15p to call instead of 25p (or whatever it used to be).
catkins198
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“The foundation policy in Strictly appears to be "Keep the big names in as long as possible " . If that means messing around with the rules or letting Joe Shmo get ejecyed unfairly then so be it .Bye bye Joe .
At this point I regard Anastacia as one of those annoying charity workers who steps into your path on the street rattling a collection box in your face .
I admire charity workers but resent being guilted by them .

She'll dance prettily on Sat , in a stunning gown (no 50's Kellie drab for her) and she'll be heaped with praise .Can't wait .”

Totally agree. You would think with the Peter Andre fiasco last year they would have learned their lesson but obviously not.

The silly thing is although they think Anastacia is a big name and a star it seems she wasn't popular enough to avoid the dance off even though she wasn't at the bottom of the leader board.

I was quite suprised even before Saturday to read on social media that loads of people didn't even know who she is (even Americans) or did know but weren't keen on her.

I liked her - fantastic voice and a strong woman but even before Saturday I haven't liked her attitude and my opinion of her changed. Now with all the "giving the money to charity" I have gone off her even more. I am pretty sure other celebs over the years have given money to charity but they haven't felt the need to tell us. I don't want to know - big deal anyway as I am sure she is not sure of money at all
Domestos
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“The foundation policy in Strictly appears to be "Keep the big names in as long as possible " . If that means messing around with the rules or letting Joe Shmo get ejecyed unfairly then so be it .Bye bye Joe .
At this point I regard Anastacia as one of those annoying charity workers who steps into your path on the street rattling a collection box in your face .
I admire charity workers but resent being guilted by them .

She'll dance prettily on Sat , in a stunning gown (no 50's Kellie drab for her) and she'll be heaped with praise .Can't wait .”

Are you feeling guilty? And what if she does dance well? Will you actually be pleased for her?

Facts are that Melvin received less public votes than she did.
Paace
05-10-2016
They glossed over everything tonight on ITT as if it's no big deal . Maybe it isn't, who knows anymore . I thought we were going to see them visiting the hospital .

"She was given the all-clear to dance this weekend with the caveat that the routine is carefully choreographed and she has been given the appropriate medication. Brendan was with her for her appointments and they have been filmed for this weekend's episode."
jtnorth
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Paace:
“They glossed over everything tonight on ITT as if it's no big deal . Maybe it isn't, who knows anymore . I thought we were going to see them visiting the hospital .

"She was given the all-clear to dance this weekend with the caveat that the routine is carefully choreographed and she has been given the appropriate medication. Brendan was with her for her appointments and they have been filmed for this weekend's episode."”

I think that means the Saturday night show, for their VT.

I thought it was quite funny that Brendan thinks we're all so ancient that the Twilight movies mean nothing to us. He might be right, I'm sure he knows his audience better than I do, but I still thought it was funny.
GabeRich
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“I think that means the Saturday night show, for their VT.

I thought it was quite funny that Brendan thinks we're all so ancient that the Twilight movies mean nothing to us. He might be right, I'm sure he knows his audience better than I do, but I still thought it was funny.”

LOL, yeah, I thought it was cute he thought no one would know which Twilight he was on about. Join the 21st century Brendan.

I also thought they seemed comfortable together on that couch, considering how he was supposed to have been so mad with her Saturday no one could approach him <shrugs> But I have trouble buying his remarks about how the VW will be an easy dance for her. He is the pro I know, and knows what he is talking about, but the location of the scar tissue she tore would make holding your arms in that posture for any period of time terribly painful, and even maybe injuring herself more. As I mentioned in another post look how much pain Danny was in during training for his VW and he is young and fit. Now he did go on to say future dances would have to be more modified than this one obviously, basically any latin numbers I suppose, but if she is so injured all the dances she does from now on have to be modified to a greater or lesser extent is that entirely fair on the other dancers? I still think she should retire, charity money or no.
Katenutzs
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“It would only be the same result if the other bottom 2-er was also below her in the public vote - and I don't actually think she will be allowed to, anyway.

I actually hope she does dance, because that is the best way to ensure Melvin leaving wasn't for nothing.
I hope she does a nice, gentle, wafty, Artem inspired VW.
I hope she gets encouraging comments and a fair mark.
If she is bottom 2 and eliminated I hope she can feel proud of the dance she did and leave her Strictly experience on a positive note.”

Love the sentiment of this post
Domestos
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by GabeRich:
“LOL, yeah, I thought it was cute he thought no one would know which Twilight he was on about. Join the 21st century Brendan.

I also thought they seemed comfortable together on that couch, considering how he was supposed to have been so mad with her Saturday no one could approach him <shrugs> But I have trouble buying his remarks about how the VW will be an easy dance for her. He is the pro I know, and knows what he is talking about, but the location of the scar tissue she tore would make holding your arms in that posture for any period of time terribly painful, and even maybe injuring herself more. As I mentioned in another post look how much pain Danny was in during training for his VW and he is young and fit. Now he did go on to say future dances would have to be more modified than this one obviously, basically any latin numbers I suppose, but if she is so injured all the dances she does from now on have to be modified to a greater or lesser extent is that entirely fair on the other dancers? I still think she should retire, charity money or no.”

Dances are constantly modified for ability, age, size etc. This is no different and why should she miss out on her experience. Forget the charity aspect, this is her time and rightly so. If the public don't vote and she dances badly in the dance off so be it but unfair to ask her to leave just because.
fredster
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“The foundation policy in Strictly appears to be "Keep the big names in as long as possible " . If that means messing around with the rules or letting Joe Shmo get ejecyed unfairly then so be it .Bye bye Joe .
At this point I regard Anastacia as one of those annoying charity workers who steps into your path on the street rattling a collection box in your face .
I admire charity workers but resent being guilted by them .

She'll dance prettily on Sat , in a stunning gown (no 50's Kellie drab for her) and she'll be heaped with praise .Can't wait .”

And the judges will give her high marks,to avoid her being in the dance off. Will the public get behind her? I won't vote for her. I didn't think it fair that Melvin was made a scapegoat.
dippydancing
05-10-2016
I know that we all come on to DS to have a moan about aspects of the show that we'd love to see improved in order to make it as good as the rest of the bits of the show that we love.
But there are some posts on this thread that show such a bitter, cynical and dark view of the motivations of both the contestants and the producers that I'm surprised those posters watch Strictly at all.
I'm not naive enough to think that everyone is altruistic perfection on the show, and I'm sure there's a bit of a production nudge here, and a dancer's ego there, but the level of CIA-type planning, Machiavellian plotting and maniacal desire for some mysterious pre-ordained outcome that they imagine is going on backstage really does beggar belief- right up there with faked moon landings and Phillip arranging it for Diana.

I hesitate to post at all on such threads, thereby continuing them, but I've watched them develop with rising incredulity and a certain amount of sadness, so that in the end I felt compelled to say- it's really not great reading guys.
penelopesimpson
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“Totally agree. You would think with the Peter Andre fiasco last year they would have learned their lesson but obviously not.

The silly thing is although they think Anastacia is a big name and a star it seems she wasn't popular enough to avoid the dance off even though she wasn't at the bottom of the leader board.

I was quite suprised even before Saturday to read on social media that loads of people didn't even know who she is (even Americans) or did know but weren't keen on her.

I liked her - fantastic voice and a strong woman but even before Saturday I haven't liked her attitude and my opinion of her changed. Now with all the "giving the money to charity" I have gone off her even more. I am pretty sure other celebs over the years have given money to charity but they haven't felt the need to tell us. I don't want to know - big deal anyway as I am sure she is not sure of money at all”

This is exactly how I feel Catkins. I am old enough to be a bit of a fan so I am doubly disappointed. She has a wonderfully distinctive voice that resonates and having seen her on video, thought she was a really gutsy performer. One also has to admire the personal story, BUT it has become overwhelming and I don't like the show being affected for anybody.
Heatherbell
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by fredster:
“And the judges will give her high marks,to avoid her being in the dance off. Will the public get behind her? I won't vote for her. I didn't think it fair that Melvin was made a scapegoat.”

Exactly .
Is she a brave woman ? Hell yeah .
Is raising money for Cancer charities good ? Yup .
Is she a good dancer ? Nope.
Was the weekend decision fair ? No way José .Simple as that , and it leaves a bad taste .
Monaogg
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Exactly .
Is she a brave woman ? Hell yeah .
Is raising money for Cancer charities good ? Yup .
Is she a good dancer ? Nope.
Was the weekend decision fair ? No way José .Simple as that , and it leaves a bad taste .”

PS. No matter how much you complain, the result was based on the public vote rather than the judges possibly saving the least popular.
Heatherbell
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“PS. No matter how much you complain, the result was based on the public vote rather than the judges possibly saving the least popular.”

And no matter how often a few people try to tell me it was a fair decision I'll still say it stinks .
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