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Anastacia and Brendan Cole WILL perform this Saturday
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Monaogg
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“And no matter how often a few people try to tell me it was a fair decision I'll still say it stinks .”

I suppose you would rather force someone to dance again in agony? Because realistically that was the only other way Melvin might stay.

TPTB ALWAYS eliminate someone. A celebrity cannot eliminate themselves.
coppertop1
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“It would only be the same result if the other bottom 2-er was also below her in the public vote - and I don't actually think she will be allowed to, anyway.

I actually hope she does dance, because that is the best way to ensure Melvin leaving wasn't for nothing.
I hope she does a nice, gentle, wafty, Artem inspired VW.
I hope she gets encouraging comments and a fair mark.
If she is bottom 2 and eliminated I hope she can feel proud of the dance she did and leave her Strictly experience on a positive note.”

Lovely post from a lovely lady whom I would be proud to call a friend.
Heavans knows there are certainly some on this thread I would run a mile from
coppertop1
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“I know that we all come on to DS to have a moan about aspects of the show that we'd love to see improved in order to make it as good as the rest of the bits of the show that we love.
But there are some posts on this thread that show such a bitter, cynical and dark view of the motivations of both the contestants and the producers that I'm surprised those posters watch Strictly at all.
I'm not naive enough to think that everyone is altruistic perfection on the show, and I'm sure there's a bit of a production nudge here, and a dancer's ego there, but the level of CIA-type planning, Machiavellian plotting and maniacal desire for some mysterious pre-ordained outcome that they imagine is going on backstage really does beggar belief- right up there with faked moon landings and Phillip arranging it for Diana.

I hesitate to post at all on such threads, thereby continuing them, but I've watched them develop with rising incredulity and a certain amount of sadness, so that in the end I felt compelled to say- it's really not great reading guys.”

Totally agree there are several posters on this thread I would be proud to have as a freind, glad to have met you so to speak
coppertop1
05-10-2016
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“I suppose you would rather force someone to dance again in agony? Because realistically that was the only other way Melvin might stay.

TPTB ALWAYS eliminate someone. A celebrity cannot eliminate themselves.”

Goodness I am delighted to see my potential freind club is growing

To anyone I have missed out sorry, you know who you are

And to some people, I bought new running shoes last week!
washboard
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“I know that we all come on to DS to have a moan about aspects of the show that we'd love to see improved in order to make it as good as the rest of the bits of the show that we love.
But there are some posts on this thread that show such a bitter, cynical and dark view of the motivations of both the contestants and the producers that I'm surprised those posters watch Strictly at all.
I'm not naive enough to think that everyone is altruistic perfection on the show, and I'm sure there's a bit of a production nudge here, and a dancer's ego there, but the level of CIA-type planning, Machiavellian plotting and maniacal desire for some mysterious pre-ordained outcome that they imagine is going on backstage really does beggar belief- right up there with faked moon landings and Phillip arranging it for Diana.

I hesitate to post at all on such threads, thereby continuing them, but I've watched them develop with rising incredulity and a certain amount of sadness, so that in the end I felt compelled to say- it's really not great reading guys.”

Very well said!
Monaogg
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“Goodness I am delighted to see my potential freind club is growing

To anyone I have missed out sorry, you know who you are

And to some people, I bought new running shoes last week!”

A brisk walk is the most I can manage.
digitalspyfan1
06-10-2016
Hmm.. the fact Anastacia is fit enough to rehearse the next dance and do the Saturday show makes her refusal to do the dance-off even more suspicious. She couldn't do the dance-off but can do training all this week? I think something is fishy about all this.

I think she will be voted off on Saturday. I think her antics will see her dumped out of the show. Unless the BBC rig the vote and she doesn't end up in the final two spot!
nyannie
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by aggs:
“It would only be the same result if the other bottom 2-er was also below her in the public vote - and I don't actually think she will be allowed to, anyway.

I actually hope she does dance, because that is the best way to ensure Melvin leaving wasn't for nothing.
I hope she does a nice, gentle, wafty, Artem inspired VW.
I hope she gets encouraging comments and a fair mark.
If she is bottom 2 and eliminated I hope she can feel proud of the dance she did and leave her Strictly experience on a positive note.”


Well said. What I can't get my head around is the 'tear, strain, rip' whatever. I just can't believe that it will be so much better by Saturday. I have had surgeries and know that it can take weeks for scar tissue to heal.

I hope she is in the bottom 2 this week and that she does go - for her own sake. I also hope she doesn't get over marked as has happened in the past.

I would also really like the BBC to publish the rules for Strictly on their website. It does seem to be a case of make it up as you go along.
claire2281
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by digitalspyfan1:
“Hmm.. the fact Anastacia is fit enough to rehearse the next dance and do the Saturday show makes her refusal to do the dance-off even more suspicious. She couldn't do the dance-off but can do training all this week? I think something is fishy about all this.”

1. Copious amounts of pain killers

2. She's been told she's not going to do herself permanent damage

3. She's got the VW which requires her to rest the arm in question in one position throughout the dance.

4. Now they know exactly what the injury is Brendan can choreograph so as to protect it

NOTHING fishy about it at all.
fatskia
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“1. Copious amounts of pain killers

2. She's been told she's not going to do herself permanent damage

3. She's got the VW which requires her to rest the arm in question in one position throughout the dance.

4. Now they know exactly what the injury is Brendan can choreograph so as to protect it

NOTHING fishy about it at all.”

I expect the visit to the consultant will confirm the injury.

I don't see Anastacia as in control of the situation at the time she got injured.
She wouldn't know the Strictly rules (does anyone?), so would be taking advice regarding what to do.
If Anastacia could have had a bye and was persuaded to dance the Salsa, (which may have increased the injury) I would understand if she was severely miffed.
If there was a whole palaver going on when she ended up in the bottom 2, then it still isn't Anastacia in control of things. I expect the producer was trying to make the best of the situation - from the Strictly point of view.
dippydancing
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by nyannie:
“Well said. What I can't get my head around is the 'tear, strain, rip' whatever. I just can't believe that it will be so much better by Saturday. I have had surgeries and know that it can take weeks for scar tissue to heal.

I hope she is in the bottom 2 this week and that she does go - for her own sake. I also hope she doesn't get over marked as has happened in the past.

I would also really like the BBC to publish the rules for Strictly on their website. It does seem to be a case of make it up as you go along.”

Even if they did, they could never have a rule to cover every possible future unusual situation. All that any corporation/company/school etc can have is a practical and workable set of policies and rules that provide a framework and ethos.

You can dispute the emergency judgement they made, but it's unreasonable to expect them to have a written rule accounting for a very specific unusual event.

Something unusual happened, they did their best to react to it, some people disagreed with it, nothing dreadful occurred, move on.
aggs
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by nyannie:
“Well said. What I can't get my head around is the 'tear, strain, rip' whatever. I just can't believe that it will be so much better by Saturday. I have had surgeries and know that it can take weeks for scar tissue to heal.

I hope she is in the bottom 2 this week and that she does go - for her own sake. I also hope she doesn't get over marked as has happened in the past.

I would also really like the BBC to publish the rules for Strictly on their website. It does seem to be a case of make it up as you go along.”

I think as long as we remember that in unprecidented occurences, the public vote over rides everything (and in the event of any other emergencies, break the Head Judge glass) and that about covers the solutions.
mimi dlc
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“I know that we all come on to DS to have a moan about aspects of the show that we'd love to see improved in order to make it as good as the rest of the bits of the show that we love.
But there are some posts on this thread that show such a bitter, cynical and dark view of the motivations of both the contestants and the producers that I'm surprised those posters watch Strictly at all.
I'm not naive enough to think that everyone is altruistic perfection on the show, and I'm sure there's a bit of a production nudge here, and a dancer's ego there, but the level of CIA-type planning, Machiavellian plotting and maniacal desire for some mysterious pre-ordained outcome that they imagine is going on backstage really does beggar belief- right up there with faked moon landings and Phillip arranging it for Diana.

I hesitate to post at all on such threads, thereby continuing them, but I've watched them develop with rising incredulity and a certain amount of sadness, so that in the end I felt compelled to say- it's really not great reading guys.”

I think I love you
mimi dlc
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“This is exactly how I feel Catkins. I am old enough to be a bit of a fan so I am doubly disappointed. She has a wonderfully distinctive voice that resonates and having seen her on video, thought she was a really gutsy performer. One also has to admire the personal story, BUT it has become overwhelming and I don't like the show being affected for anybody.”

It's only become "overwhelming" here on DS where it has been discussed and fought over like a couple of dogs with a bone.
For the vast majority of non-DS reading viewers of the show, it's of passing interest
Cadiva
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“I'm not naive enough to think that everyone is altruistic perfection on the show, and I'm sure there's a bit of a production nudge here, and a dancer's ego there, but the level of CIA-type planning, Machiavellian plotting and maniacal desire for some mysterious pre-ordained outcome that they imagine is going on backstage really does beggar belief- right up there with faked moon landings and Phillip arranging it for Diana.”

This has always made me laugh throughout the years of watching SCD to be honest, that there's some dark and devious plotting going on in some producer's closet
penelopesimpson
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“It's only become "overwhelming" here on DS where it has been discussed and fought over like a couple of dogs with a bone.
For the vast majority of non-DS reading viewers of the show, it's of passing interest”


As the government found out when the population voted for Brexit, it is always a mistake to assume that because the whole country isn't on social media or using message boards, that they think the way you want them to think.
Muggsy
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“As the government found out when the population voted for Brexit, it is always a mistake to assume that because the whole country isn't on social media or using message boards, that they think the way you want them to think.”

Blimey, we'll be having Godwin's Law by tea time.
Dervlathedog
06-10-2016
What do the deprived and forgotten post-industrial heartlands think about Anastacia's salsa?
mimi dlc
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“As the government found out when the population voted for Brexit, it is always a mistake to assume that because the whole country isn't on social media or using message boards, that they think the way you want them to think.”

I don't think who does what on Strictly is remotely comparable to Brexit.
It's actually not very important.
Cadiva
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“What do the deprived and forgotten post-industrial heartlands think about Anastacia's salsa?”

Fairly sure they couldn't give a whatsits
coppertop1
06-10-2016
Oh we could have a poll ! Claps excitedly!
Not!
aggs
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“What do the deprived and forgotten post-industrial heartlands think about Anastacia's salsa?”

The Northern Powerhouse thinks - eh?
Ann_Dancer
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“I don't think who does what on Strictly is remotely comparable to Brexit.
It's actually not very important.”

The £ did sink to its lowest level on 4 October following O'Dexit.
musicangel
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“1. Copious amounts of pain killers

2. She's been told she's not going to do herself permanent damage

3. She's got the VW which requires her to rest the arm in question in one position throughout the dance.

4. Now they know exactly what the injury is Brendan can choreograph so as to protect it

NOTHING fishy about it at all.”

Well said!!!

Anastasia has now also seen a specialist rather than just a physio, or general Dr, someone who knows exactly what the injury is, what damage has been done, the exact risks, so before she made a decision based on limited information on the Saturday night, she went for further medical advise.

I am 100% sure they did the right thing Saturday, the medics couldn't say what repeating the dance would do permanently wise, which would have happened to Will with his injury ect, they went off how many people voted, and more people voted for Anastasia! End of really!

Masses of good luck to them its one of my fav songs ever!! and favourite dances to, love Brendan's choreography for VW as well!!
musicangel
06-10-2016
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“I know that we all come on to DS to have a moan about aspects of the show that we'd love to see improved in order to make it as good as the rest of the bits of the show that we love.
But there are some posts on this thread that show such a bitter, cynical and dark view of the motivations of both the contestants and the producers that I'm surprised those posters watch Strictly at all.
I'm not naive enough to think that everyone is altruistic perfection on the show, and I'm sure there's a bit of a production nudge here, and a dancer's ego there, but the level of CIA-type planning, Machiavellian plotting and maniacal desire for some mysterious pre-ordained outcome that they imagine is going on backstage really does beggar belief- right up there with faked moon landings and Phillip arranging it for Diana.

I hesitate to post at all on such threads, thereby continuing them, but I've watched them develop with rising incredulity and a certain amount of sadness, so that in the end I felt compelled to say- it's really not great reading guys.”

Really really well said!!!!
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