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Doctor Who Vs Star Wars - Itv Gets More Bizarre!
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jimboc
17-05-2005
It's funny - or is it sad - that I watch a lot more of ITV3 than I do ITV1 now. It's testament to how good ITV can (or could) be.

I'm sure it's not just the memory cheating - the channel has produced some cracking stuff over the years.

Just not a lot lately...
JohnFlawbod
17-05-2005
Originally Posted by jimboc:
“It's funny - or is it sad - that I watch a lot more of ITV3 than I do ITV1 now. It's testament to how good ITV can (or could) be.

I'm sure it's not just the memory cheating - the channel has produced some cracking stuff over the years.

Just not a lot lately...”

"Chicago Hope" "LA LAW" "The Practice" and a hatful of classic British whodunnits of an evening, what's not to like in that line-up on ITV3?
jimboc
17-05-2005
Originally Posted by JohnFlawbod:
“"Chicago Hope" "LA LAW" "The Practice" and a hatful of classic British whodunnits of an evening, what's not to like in that line-up on ITV3? ”

Erm - I was referring more to Cracker, Rising Damp, the upcoming Robin of Sherwood, and the like - for me they beat anything it's churning out now.
JohnFlawbod
17-05-2005
Originally Posted by jimboc:
“Erm - I was referring more to Cracker, Rising Damp, the upcoming Robin of Sherwood, and the like - for me they beat anything it's churning out now.”

Robin of Sherwood? Cool, I've been out of the ITV3 loop so didn't know - that from Michael Praed beginning or Jason Connery? Sorry to be anoraky but it kind of dipped towards the end...
jimboc
17-05-2005
I guess they'll start from the beginning - the rumour is it'll be on from Sat 28th May.

It'd better bloody not be on at 7pm though ))
JohnFlawbod
18-05-2005
Originally Posted by jimboc:
“I guess they'll start from the beginning - the rumour is it'll be on from Sat 28th May.

It'd better bloody not be on at 7pm though ))”

If it is then sorry, it was good, but not that good even with Richard O'Brien guesting in the later eps...Doc wins...then again, I may be slightly biased on this one
JohnFlawbod
18-05-2005
Originally Posted by jimboc:
“I guess they'll start from the beginning - the rumour is it'll be on from Sat 28th May.

It'd better bloody not be on at 7pm though ))”

According to the ITV3 thread on here it's going at 17:00 on a saturday...now that's what I call cool saturday viewing
romanwinecow
18-05-2005
Another poke in ITV's eye, have you noticed that Sky too are showing the star wars movies? So those that do have sky are more likely to watch them on sky because at least they wont have nearly an hou of ad breaks and News. Sky have had the movies planned for a while apparently, so well done ITV on another bit of low iq programming.

And before someone slams me, yes I'm aware sky are not showing the movies in the same time slot!
Ultrasonic
18-05-2005
Originally Posted by JohnFlawbod:
“It takes more than a politician who wants to be prime minister telling you that his party isn't racist to erase the hundreds of years of racism that that party has condoned if not perpetuated...headline news: Conservatives elect black MP at 2005 election...please...I'm hoping they'll change but when you look at the corpulent white shadow cabinet then I'm probably hoping in vain.... ”

So what you're essentially saying is that because there are no black members of the shadow cabinet, the party must therefore be racist? Thats what it sounds like you're saying because you haven't actually given any examples of policies that the Conservatives have which suggest they think that white people are the supreme race. You're actually just jumping on the anti-Tory bandwagon.

Also, the "idea" of the party was formed around the 1880's if my history is correct, with the modern Conservative Party forming in the early 1900's. Hardly "hundreds of years" is it? This proves my point that you aren't basing your argument on any facts.

PS. Sorry Dr Who and Star Wars fans. I realise this is a DW/SW debate but I didn't start the politics argument and had to reply to Mr Flawbod!
paulsalter
18-05-2005
Originally Posted by JohnFlawbod:
“Even on the drama front they are a network that has commissioned a series chronologically about the 60s that has lasted over a decade in "Heartbeat"...it doesn't really smack of good judgement but it is sweet how desperately they're trawling the pop charts of 1969 to keep it going ”

I never knew Heartbeat was supposed to be set in real time

There was me thinking it was a drama set in the 60's
pfrostsm
18-05-2005
I have to that Dr Who has been an excellent series- far better than the original. The signs looked good but the results have been far better. The last episode was the highlight but all have been good.
yorksdave
18-05-2005
As we speak itv execs are considering bringing back "The Tomorrow People" to go up against the next series of "Dr Who", they have already pensiled in "Ant and Dec" in the lead roles
romanwinecow
18-05-2005
Originally Posted by yorksdave:
“As we speak itv execs are considering bringing back "The Tomorrow People" to go up against the next series of "Dr Who", they have already pensiled in "Ant and Dec" in the lead roles ”


LOL!

Very Good
jimboc
18-05-2005
Originally Posted by JohnFlawbod:
“If it is then sorry, it was good, but not that good even with Richard O'Brien guesting in the later eps...Doc wins...then again, I may be slightly biased on this one ”

I agree 100% - I wasn't comparing DW to anything - just ITV1 of today to ITV of yesteryear.
swampwizard
18-05-2005
Originally Posted by yorksdave:
“As we speak itv execs are considering bringing back "The Tomorrow People" to go up against the next series of "Dr Who", they have already pensiled in "Ant and Dec" in the lead roles ”

oh god, but they can't act!! totally wreck the series before it'll begin. sorry itv bad move yet again.
yorksdave
18-05-2005
Originally Posted by swampwizard:
“oh god, but they can't act!! totally wreck the series before it'll begin. sorry itv bad move yet again.”

It was meant to be a joke, although nothing would surprise me.
overlord
18-05-2005
Originally Posted by {ph[oe]nix}:
“That company is heading down the shitter as far as I am concerned.”

Personally I think of (ITV) as a turd that won't flush away...
square_eyes
18-05-2005
I notice that Star Wars isn't even in the schedule for Saturday 28th May, it's X-Men, according to the Radio Times website anyway.

They've already trailed they're showing all 4 movies, so what's going on here ?
gomezz
18-05-2005
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“They've already trailed they're showing all 4 movies, so what's going on here ? ”

4 movies ???
Jazzx
19-05-2005
Originally Posted by jimboc:
“A & D got only 0.1 million moer in the overnights - but the rest is true.

And I agree that as we have a new film on release it's the right time to show PM (or would be if it wasn't shown a few months ago) - but my initial problem stands - why opposite Doctor Who, and why sliced in 2 by the news....?”

I think they`d get more respect (not much more) if they showed the ORIGINAL version of the ORIGINAL Star Wars - with a "see where it all began" in the publicity.

As it is, they`ve chosen the weakest Star Wars film - so any novelty value is lost. I think it`s in for a trouncing.
Alrightmate
19-05-2005
Yes, but more people will have seen the original "Star Wars", and maybe not so many people will have seen "Phantom Menace".

And don't forget that this is ITV, so a fair proportion of the viewers won't care about it being a great film, as long as it's got explosions, action, SFX, and anything bright, shiny and familiarly comfortable about it.

I do think that "Phantom Menace" is capable of eating into a couple of million of Doc Who's ratings.
Which is a shame, as "The Empty Child" looks to be a great episode of Doctor Who, Rumour has it that it's the scariest story of the series.
GWR
19-05-2005
Originally Posted by JohnFlawbod:
“Even on the drama front they are a network that has commissioned a series chronologically about the 60s that has lasted over a decade in "Heartbeat"...it doesn't really smack of good judgement but it is sweet how desperately they're trawling the pop charts of 1969 to keep it going ”

According to a Heartbeat-watching relative, time within the show has officially moved on to about 1970-71.

And even if the show *did* exist in a permanent 1969, it would only smack of bad judgement if it stopped being popular, but it seems to have retained its place as an ITV ratings banker.
GWR
19-05-2005
Originally Posted by Jazzx:
“I think they`d get more respect (not much more) if they showed the ORIGINAL version of the ORIGINAL Star Wars”

They can't. Nobody can. Official edict from Lucasfilm - the original 1977 Star Wars is no longer available for theatrical or TV screening or home video/DVD release, and hasn't been since the 1997 Special Editions.
square_eyes
20-05-2005
Originally Posted by gomezz:
“4 movies ???”

Yes, ITV had shown a trailer, saying that they were showing The Phantom Menace, A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back & Return of the Jedi. That's 4.

However, looks like they've gone back on this now, and are only showing Phantom Menace this Saturday, and X-Men next week.
gomezz
20-05-2005
I should have said "all 4" movies?
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