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Old 05-10-2016, 06:14
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With a record number of Brit Awards already, he's now following Elton John and David Bowie to receive the highest honour they can give.

Nothing against "The Robster", but that ain't bad for a British pop star who's never even cracked America I would suggest. And when it comes to musical influence, he's no Ray Davies, Paul Weller or Morrissey either, is he? What's he got on the Brit Awards committee?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/evfwhn/l...b05295e3b1b6bb
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Old 05-10-2016, 13:29
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the point of awards ceremonies is to make money. advertising product. he's got a new album out so this will help boost sales and make money for the industry
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Old 05-10-2016, 14:11
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With a record number of Brit Awards already, he's now following Elton John and David Bowie to receive the highest honour they can give.

Nothing against "The Robster", but that ain't bad for a British pop star who's never even cracked America I would suggest. And when it comes to musical influence, he's no Ray Davies, Paul Weller or Morrissey either, is he? What's he got on the Brit Awards committee?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/evfwhn/l...b05295e3b1b6bb
Not really. He's frightfully overrated.
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Old 05-10-2016, 14:13
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Isn't Angels still the top song played at funerals?? Just give him his damn award and move on!
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Old 05-10-2016, 15:02
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I think he is dreadful. Poor songwriter, poor singer. Never understood the appeal of him
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Old 05-10-2016, 15:25
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Not really a fan but since he's won so many Brit awards then a lifetime achievement type of award (as I assume this is) is no surprise.
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Old 05-10-2016, 16:17
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I think he is dreadful. Poor songwriter, poor singer. Never understood the appeal of him
I'm no fan of his music but the only thing I've only ever found great about him was his lyrics tbh.
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Old 05-10-2016, 16:23
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Isn't Angels still the top song played at funerals?? Just give him his damn award and move on!
I HATE that song with a passion, so much so, I've even come to "like" the Jessica Simpson version better than the original!
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Old 05-10-2016, 16:23
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I think he'd be better at light entertainment rather than as a pop star. He has that cheeky chappy persona and a certain karaoke style, will turn his hand to anything, sort of appeal. I could have seen him as a cheesy Saturday night telly host for the grans and the kids. Get a comedian on alongside him, do some sketches, a tap dance, murder a song, celeb interview - a modern Brucie mixed with Ant and Dec and all the usual crud. That's the direction I thought his career would go in 10+ years ago.

I think he's more interesting as a person than a performer or artist. It's all subjective though. To some people he will be fantastic.

I've liked a few of his songs a little bit but not very many. I liked the Ant Music cover he did, Road to Mandarlay, and probably a couple of other songs if I went back and looked at his entire back catalogue. It's mostly a miss for me though.
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Old 05-10-2016, 16:47
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No.

Kate Bush is far more deserving, but she would probably never attend.
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Old 05-10-2016, 17:27
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No.

Kate Bush is far more deserving, but she would probably never attend.
If I'm not mistaken, didn't she win this award a few years ago?
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Old 05-10-2016, 17:38
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For me Status Quo would win , they won an award a long time ago , they never have a year off touring year in and year out still making records
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Old 05-10-2016, 18:12
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Isn't Angels still the top song played at funerals?? Just give him his damn award and move on!
Such a shame, since it's also the karaoke 'go-to' for loudmouth lager louts trying to woo themselves an equally classy 'bird' on Fridays down the Dog & Hammer.
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Old 05-10-2016, 19:30
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they should give him the gurning, attention-seeking moron award
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Old 05-10-2016, 20:53
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the point of awards ceremonies is to make money. advertising product. he's got a new album out so this will help boost sales and make money for the industry
I've often wondered what the point of the Brit Awards is.

It might boost sales, but I would still suggest there are far more internationally successful and influential British musicians than him, so I'm still at a loss to explain the Brits' particular love affair with him.
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Old 05-10-2016, 20:56
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Isn't Angels still the top song played at funerals?? Just give him his damn award and move on!
I think it might have been overtaken by something by Adele now. I don't like her much but at least she's a bona fide worldwide star, unlike Robbie.

I almost feel sorry for him, he must have to find a lot of space for all his Brits.
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Old 05-10-2016, 21:02
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If I'm not mistaken, didn't she win this award a few years ago?
As far as I know, Kate Bush has (incredibly) only won one Brit Award, which was Best Female in 1987 following the Hounds of Love album.

The more I think about it, the more ridiculous and irrelevant the Brit Awards seem to get.
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Old 05-10-2016, 21:06
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With a record number of Brit Awards already, he's now following Elton John and David Bowie to receive the highest honour they can give.

Nothing against "The Robster", but that ain't bad for a British pop star who's never even cracked America I would suggest. And when it comes to musical influence, he's no Ray Davies, Paul Weller or Morrissey either, is he? What's he got on the Brit Awards committee?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/evfwhn/l...b05295e3b1b6bb
Agreed. I would put Jeff Lynne and George Michael way ahead of him too.
A posthumous nod to the recent loss of Rod Temperton wouldn't go amiss either.
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Old 06-10-2016, 01:38
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If I'm not mistaken, didn't she win this award a few years ago?
I think she got something similar at the Q awards a while back, and turned up.
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Old 06-10-2016, 13:32
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I've often wondered what the point of the Brit Awards is.

It might boost sales, but I would still suggest there are far more internationally successful and influential British musicians than him, so I'm still at a loss to explain the Brits' particular love affair with him.
cuz he's got a new album out that if promoted well could make the industry a chunk of money. of the other acts you refer to, how many have a new album coming out soon?

that's basically it, it's an easy target to push sales

the artists getting the awards are usually encouraged to attend, or they may not get much awards if future if they win and don't turn up as it's better to give awards to celebs who turn up and get media publicity
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Old 06-10-2016, 19:20
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cuz he's got a new album out that if promoted well could make the industry a chunk of money. of the other acts you refer to, how many have a new album coming out soon?

that's basically it, it's an easy target to push sales

the artists getting the awards are usually encouraged to attend, or they may not get much awards if future if they win and don't turn up as it's better to give awards to celebs who turn up and get media publicity
I bet if Def Leppard or Depeche Mode - or even an old Brits favourite from many years back Mr Philip Collins - released a new album right now they'd still sell more around the world than Robbie ever would, hence making the industry a bigger chunk of money. But somehow I don't think the Brits would touch any of them with a barge pole these days. In fact, the likes of Def Leppard and Depeche Mode have still never won any Brit ever.
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Old 07-10-2016, 10:01
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I bet if Def Leppard or Depeche Mode - or even an old Brits favourite from many years back Mr Philip Collins - released a new album right now they'd still sell more around the world than Robbie ever would, hence making the industry a bigger chunk of money. But somehow I don't think the Brits would touch any of them with a barge pole these days. In fact, the likes of Def Leppard and Depeche Mode have still never won any Brit ever.
i'm not sure about that, but it may be possible. however the brits, as the name may suggest, is a british award show so aimed at a british tv audience

the fact of the matter however is AFAIK those acts don't have a new album out to promote, otherwise there is the possibility they roll them out to play some hits and give them an award and try and punt their new album too - if the artists were interested in doing so. i'm not sure if that is their thing, whereas robbie has a pretty simple mainstream UK audience appeal so a uk tv appearance on prime time telly has great commercial potential. i'm not so sure if brit award watchers would be as interested in DM or DL or conversely DM or DL fans interested in the brit awards. i would imagine fans of those bands to consider it more the shit awards and there are possibily better alternate award shows for those bands to appear on, such as kerrang awards for DL but those other bands aren't your typical mainstream prime time telly watching punters idea of adding a new cd in with the tesco shopping, but phil collins may be
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Old 07-10-2016, 11:22
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I'm no fan of his music but the only thing I've only ever found great about him was his lyrics tbh.
Wasn't it really Guy Chambers who writ most of his popular songs anyway?
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Old 07-10-2016, 12:03
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Wasn't it really Guy Chambers who writ most of his popular songs anyway?
Chambers wrote the good ones.

Have you heard the latest one about partying like a Russian? It makes Rude Box sound half decent.
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Old 07-10-2016, 12:46
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Wasn't it really Guy Chambers who writ most of his popular songs anyway?
Robbie co-wrote all of the Chambers songs.
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