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Old 06-10-2016, 16:42
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I'd have love to have seen all this. Anastasia having a diva strop, Bruno running up and down the corridor demanding a car.....right now, Brendan sobbing in Anton's arms and Len wishing had some hair to pull out. 😵

I wonder what Craig and Darcey were doing. 😏
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Old 06-10-2016, 16:58
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I'd have love to have seen all this. Anastasia having a diva strop, Bruno running up and down the corridor demanding a car.....right now, Brendan sobbing in Anton's arms and Len wishing had some hair to pull out. 😵

I wonder what Craig and Darcey were doing. 😏
I love that image! It feels like the subject for an epic piece of art "The Dance-Off". Can just imagine the commentary of the guide: "And the group of figures in this corner of the painting represent despair........"
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Old 06-10-2016, 17:04
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I think if we boil it down to the underlying reason a lot of people are so upset over all of this it is for the reason Bruno allegedly threatened to quit. That the decision made was the wrong one.
That's an opinion, not a fact.

What's annoying to me is them pretending it was a rule rather than a decision they made on the spot. People have been given byes with injuries before, but in those cases, they haven't taken part in the programme at all. Anastacia's decision to take part rather than request a bye resulted in a massive problem. I can't remember what they did in the past, but was it double elimination the following week? Feel a bit sorry for Melvin but he was likely first boot anyway, so I can't get very worked up about it.

For once, I don't imagine Craig getting involved (don't know why not). I see him giving his opinion once, then heading straight for the bar!
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Old 06-10-2016, 17:07
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You should be OK as long as you don't shimmy.
Play some samba music. Guaranteed James Jordan-free zone.
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Old 06-10-2016, 17:08
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I'd have love to have seen all this. Anastasia having a diva strop, Bruno running up and down the corridor demanding a car.....right now, Brendan sobbing in Anton's arms and Len wishing had some hair to pull out. 😵

I wonder what Craig and Darcey were doing. 😏
lol, What a picture, what a photograph!!
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Old 06-10-2016, 17:21
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I'd have love to have seen all this. Anastasia having a diva strop, Bruno running up and down the corridor demanding a car.....right now, Brendan sobbing in Anton's arms and Len wishing had some hair to pull out. 😵

I wonder what Craig and Darcey were doing. 😏
That's straight out of Kevin's choreography portfolio, isn't it

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Old 06-10-2016, 17:27
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That's straight out of Kevin's choreography portfolio, isn't it

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Old 06-10-2016, 17:30
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The story of this dance is ...
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Old 06-10-2016, 17:31
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I think if we boil it down to the underlying reason a lot of people are so upset over all of this it is for the reason Bruno allegedly threatened to quit. That the decision made was the wrong one.

Whether Anastacia had a diva hissy fit or not, whether she was to injured and in to much pain to dance the DO or not, whether Brendan was mad at her or the show or not is at the end of the day irrelevant. If someone cannot perform in the DO they should go home, it should be that simple as many people have already stated. In any other show like Strictly if this happened that contestant would be sent home if for no other reason than to avoid liability issues for the show.

So, did Bruno threaten to quit? This news came from somewhere, it wasn't just manufactured and put in print because if it was then that paper leaves itself open to a liability suit from Bruno for slander, its just not worth the risk I wouldn't have thought. So lets say, for the sake of argument that the report is true and he did say all of this and acted this way. He would win a lot of fans for standing up to TPTB over a decision a fair majority of the viewers think was just plain wrong and with Len leaving at the end of this series maybe he is campaigning with the shows fans for the top job?
No idea but if he did he didn't really, really mean it, obviously.


Actually, I think the reverse is true and that what many of us want is for SCD to remain what it has always been, an Entertainment Show. It would be unwise of anyone to dance through injury and I hope it is never encouraged. Contestants are allowed one bye which is fine. Then, if you can't dance, you drop out. So simple.

Similarly, it should not be turned into anything other than a dance or popularity contest which is why I don't like the charity thing being attached. Does that mean that anyone who doesn't vote for Anastacia to go right through the competition therefore doesn't want to raise funds for breast cancer? The two should not have been allowed to become intertwined.
No idea. I have never seen so much as a hint of anyone saying that.

She has every right to mention her charity. Her call.
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Old 06-10-2016, 17:31
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That's an opinion, not a fact.

What's annoying to me is them pretending it was a rule rather than a decision they made on the spot. People have been given byes with injuries before, but in those cases, they haven't taken part in the programme at all. Anastacia's decision to take part rather than request a bye resulted in a massive problem. I can't remember what they did in the past, but was it double elimination the following week? Feel a bit sorry for Melvin but he was likely first boot anyway, so I can't get very worked up about it.

For once, I don't imagine Craig getting involved (don't know why not). I see him giving his opinion once, then heading straight for the bar!
In the past, if a person has a bye, then the show and elimination just takes place without them for a week, someone still goes. If a person then drops out, the the show goes ahead with elimination as planned. All that happens in that there is one less couple in the final.
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Old 06-10-2016, 17:35
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... Last Train to Stropsville
Ooh, that's good - Kevin could dress up as Mr Controller and his partner be Lady the magical tank engine.
(Wardrobe shouldn't have any problem dressing a lady celeb up as a tank engine)
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Old 06-10-2016, 17:55
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Ooh, that's good - Kevin could dress up as Mr Controller and his partner be Lady the magical tank engine.
(Wardrobe shouldn't have any problem dressing a lady celeb up as a tank engine)
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Old 06-10-2016, 19:30
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As much as it pains me to agree with Bruno, he's right in saying if you don't dance in the DO, then you go home. You don't send the other guy home. You just don't.
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Old 06-10-2016, 19:31
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I can see Bruno's point if this is true, but to storm off is a bit extreme.
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Old 06-10-2016, 19:33
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As much as it pains me to agree with Bruno, he's right in saying if you don't dance in the DO, then you go home. You don't send the other guy home. You just don't.
But they didn't just send him home, they went by the public vote. It would have been fairer to send them both through to next week and do a double elimination.
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Old 06-10-2016, 20:07
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Has Brunos stop?
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Old 06-10-2016, 20:15
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I'd have love to have seen all this. Anastasia having a diva strop, Bruno running up and down the corridor demanding a car.....right now, Brendan sobbing in Anton's arms and Len wishing had some hair to pull out. 😵

I wonder what Craig and Darcey were doing. 😏
Anastacia doesn't strop . No , she's too saintly for that 😇. She wept pearl-like angel tears and dropped gently into a faint on a handy chaise long from the prop room while the production team ran around like headless chickens looking for smelling salts or a convenient rule that could be twisted to fit the crisis caused solely by St Anasta .
I hope Bruno did throw a wobbler 🙇, shows someone there that night saw the shifting of goalposts as unfair .
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Old 06-10-2016, 20:16
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As much as it pains me to agree with Bruno, he's right in saying if you don't dance in the DO, then you go home. You don't send the other guy home. You just don't.
Oh look , someone being logical . 👍
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Old 06-10-2016, 20:19
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As much as it pains me to agree with Bruno, he's right in saying if you don't dance in the DO, then you go home. You don't send the other guy home. You just don't.
I agree Buddy. However, if someone else doesn't see it that way it is difficult to argue because it just comes down to a differing and instinctive view of what is 'right.'
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Old 06-10-2016, 20:30
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I agree Buddy. However, if someone else doesn't see it that way it is difficult to argue because it just comes down to a differing and instinctive view of what is 'right.'
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Old 06-10-2016, 20:32
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I agree Buddy. However, if someone else doesn't see it that way it is difficult to argue because it just comes down to a differing and instinctive view of what is 'right.'
I don't think it's just that though .
I think that Anastacia's PR making sure we all know that her fee is going to charity has tipped the scales of public opinion in her favour on what should have been a straight forward case of " Oh dear , well that's bad luck Anastacia and we wish you a speedy recovery , but if you are unable to dance then your Strictly experience has come to an end " .
Shame on production that no one had the stones to just tell her straight .
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Old 06-10-2016, 20:48
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I don't think it's just that though .
I think that Anastacia's PR making sure we all know that her fee is going to charity has tipped the scales of public opinion in her favour on what should have been a straight forward case of " Oh dear , well that's bad luck Anastacia and we wish you a speedy recovery , but if you are unable to dance then your Strictly experience has come to an end " .
Shame on production that no one had the stones to just tell her straight .
I think that discussing Anastacia's motivations and charity involvement muddies the whole argument. Suppose instead it had been Noddy and Big Ears in dance off. If Noddy danced earlier but now decides he can't dance, then Big Ears goes through.

But if other people don't see it that way (e.g. think the viewer vote should prevail) then I'm not sure I can convince them otherwise. We just disagree on principle regarding what is right and fair.

I think Bruno's reaction was an uncomplicated, instinctive one, like mine and Buddy's.
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Old 06-10-2016, 20:49
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Oh look , someone being logical . 👍
Anastacia doesn't strop . No , she's too saintly for that 😇. She wept pearl-like angel tears and dropped gently into a faint on a handy chaise long from the prop room while the production team ran around like headless chickens looking for smelling salts or a convenient rule that could be twisted to fit the crisis caused solely by St Anasta .
I hope Bruno did throw a wobbler 🙇, shows someone there that night saw the shifting of goalposts as unfair .
Why is it difficult for you to be outraged by a decision without attacking one of the victims? It's very distasteful. And Bruno didn't feel THAT strongly or he would indeed have quit.

I don't think it's just that though .
I think that Anastacia's PR making sure we all know that her fee is going to charity has tipped the scales of public opinion in her favour on what should have been a straight forward case of " Oh dear , well that's bad luck Anastacia and we wish you a speedy recovery , but if you are unable to dance then your Strictly experience has come to an end " .
Shame on production that no one had the stones to just tell her straight .
Because it was them that made the decision,not her. *sigh*
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Old 06-10-2016, 20:58
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I love that image! It feels like the subject for an epic piece of art "The Dance-Off". Can just imagine the commentary of the guide: "And the group of figures in this corner of the painting represent despair........"
In that case you'll have to squeeze in the producer and his 4" thick rule book....and Darcey and Craig would definitely be sitting off to the side serenely sharing a bottle or three of wine.
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Old 06-10-2016, 21:02
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I think that discussing Anastacia's motivations and charity involvement muddies the whole argument. Suppose instead it had been Noddy and Big Ears in dance off. If Noddy danced earlier but now decides he can't dance, then Big Ears goes through.
who gets the car in this divorce?
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