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Old 06-10-2016, 12:36
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too predictable
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Old 06-10-2016, 12:47
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I don't think he's "turned" bad - he was obviously always a control freak. Why else would Tess have looked twice at simpleton man-child Paddy? He was always brought in for this sl.

If he was just some poor cuckolded innocent victim in all this, everybody would be asking why he's still in the village.
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Old 06-10-2016, 12:55
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It's all too predictable as well as unbelievable. Why would Rhona want to stay with that buffoon paddy. He bullies women and read other men. He has affairs with any woman who looks at him. It would have been far better for Rhona to have met a better man and paddy to have his comeuppance. He, obviously, Pierce has planned to take away paddy's whole life and paddy will e posemhim, become a hero and Rhona will have him back. Lazy writing.
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Old 06-10-2016, 12:58
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I don't think he's "turned" bad - he was obviously always a control freak. Why else would Tess have looked twice at simpleton man-child Paddy? He was always brought in for this sl.

If he was just some poor cuckolded innocent victim in all this, everybody would be asking why he's still in the village.
I don't remember Tess saying anything bad about pierce. It was more a case of him never being there because of work so it's surprising that he's this bad. From the way it's going its obviously gonna get worse and the end result will be paddy and Rhona back together. Pierce will probably end up dead or in prison for holding her hostage because he can't live without her.
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Old 06-10-2016, 13:04
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I don't think he's "turned" bad - he was obviously always a control freak. Why else would Tess have looked twice at simpleton man-child Paddy? He was always brought in for this sl.

If he was just some poor cuckolded innocent victim in all this, everybody would be asking why he's still in the village.
Clearly wasn't very good at "controlling" Tess, given how often she could sneak away and romp with Paddy
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Old 06-10-2016, 13:07
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I don't think he's "turned" bad - he was obviously always a control freak. Why else would Tess have looked twice at simpleton man-child Paddy? He was always brought in for this sl.

If he was just some poor cuckolded innocent victim in all this, everybody would be asking why he's still in the village.
I agree 100%. Pierce has always been a nasty bit of goods. Now we're about to find out just how unpleasant he is.

Paddy, for all that he can be a buffoon at times, is, basically, a good man. He was tempted, he fell for the temptation, he was hurt and he's very much regretting the whole thing. It's an age old universal story. Many others have been through the same experience.

Repentance and forgiveness are age old too; they go right back to the New Testament and beyond. There's too little genuine forgiveness in the world at present, and the world is a worse place for it.
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Old 06-10-2016, 13:19
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I agree 100%. Pierce has always been a nasty bit of goods. Now we're about to find out just how unpleasant he is.

Paddy, for all that he can be a buffoon at times, is, basically, a good man. He was tempted, he fell for the temptation, he was hurt and he's very much regretting the whole thing. It's an age old universal story. Many others have been through the same experience.

Repentance and forgiveness are age old too; they go right back to the New Testament and beyond. There's too little genuine forgiveness in the world at present, and the world is a worse place for it.
Excellent post
The silver lining is that after his innate evilness has peaked, one way or another he'll be gone from the village.
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Old 06-10-2016, 13:20
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Clearly wasn't very good at "controlling" Tess, given how often she could sneak away and romp with Paddy
Ah but she was pretty sneaky and sly too so she'd learnt how to take advantage of PsychoPearce.
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Old 06-10-2016, 13:43
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He's just another one of Kate Oates's panto-villain creations

Ross Barton
Lachlan White
Lawrence White
Emma Barton
Robert Sugden
Pete Barton

All panto-villains to varying degrees.
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Old 06-10-2016, 13:45
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It's all too predictable as well as unbelievable. Why would Rhona want to stay with that buffoon paddy. He bullies women and read other men. He has affairs with any woman who looks at him. It would have been far better for Rhona to have met a better man and paddy to have his comeuppance. He, obviously, Pierce has planned to take away paddy's whole life and paddy will e posemhim, become a hero and Rhona will have him back. Lazy writing.
Not sure I'd call it lazy writing, unoriginal sure.

It's an obvious way to fix a mess left by the previous producer and fix a couple who shouldn't have been seperated. Or should at least have not had to suffer through an affair to get a storyline.
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Old 06-10-2016, 13:56
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Not sure I'd call it lazy writing, unoriginal sure.

It's an obvious way to fix a mess left by the previous producer and fix a couple who shouldn't have been seperated. Or should at least have not had to suffer through an affair to get a storyline.
Totally agree.

Also I do think people tend to bandy about the terms 'predictable' and 'lazy' far too much these days. How many totally original (or even semi-original) sls can there be left in a day and age where all soaps have to come up with stories 5 or 6 eps a week? The answer is basically none and people should accept that pretty much all sls are just minor variations on the same themes.
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Old 06-10-2016, 14:55
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I do not call it lazy writing either as psychological manipulation is a slow burn, you do not see it straight away and it takes time for a savvy victim to be caught up in a web. This sort of plot line does take some thought.

I agree that it is a bit predictable that Pearce has become a baddie, and that the relationship could not simply have been shown to fizzle out - in soap land couples tend not to "just" drift apart, they have to have drama involving a baddie, but I like the storyline. But I have to disagree with the OP as I do not think it is a shame - he has to be a baddie, he even looks like a cartoon baddie with his permanent 5 o'clock shadow.
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Old 06-10-2016, 14:59
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I agree 100%. Pierce has always been a nasty bit of goods. Now we're about to find out just how unpleasant he is.

Paddy, for all that he can be a buffoon at times, is, basically, a good man. He was tempted, he fell for the temptation, he was hurt and he's very much regretting the whole thing. It's an age old universal story. Many others have been through the same experience.

Repentance and forgiveness are age old too; they go right back to the New Testament and beyond. There's too little genuine forgiveness in the world at present, and the world is a worse place for it.
Good post - yes, it's a bit predictable, but so is Cain and Charity.... At the end of the day ED are producing 6 episodes a week and with the best will in the world some of them are bound to be a bit predictable and repetitive.

As long as they keep giving us jewels like the end of last week I for one will forgive them a bit of predictability.
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Old 06-10-2016, 15:20
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Honestly I'm on his side, anything that makes Horrible Paddy's day even a little bit worse is time well spent.

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Old 06-10-2016, 16:42
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Totally agree.

Also I do think people tend to bandy about the terms 'predictable' and 'lazy' far too much these days. How many totally original (or even semi-original) sls can there be left in a day and age where all soaps have to come up with stories 5 or 6 eps a week? The answer is basically none and people should accept that pretty much all sls are just minor variations on the same themes.
You are exactly right, the only way they can be made different from previous is to use different types of characters and include unique twists to the tale - and Emmerdale loves their twists at the moment.

The only thing that is letting it down is the fact that we aren't really seeing Peirce manipulate Rhona first-hand, it villainises Rhona at the same time as it's victimising Paddy which is a little unfortunate.
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Old 06-10-2016, 17:34
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Honestly I'm on his side, anything that makes Horrible Paddy's day even a little bit worse is time well spent.

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Me too, if Pierce must turn out to be bad, please can he be murderously bad and bump off Paddy before he's found out.
Even better if he could do the deed and get away with it, staying in the village with everyone thinking what a lovely chap he is.
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Old 06-10-2016, 19:58
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I don't think Pierce has turned bad at all. He was clearly unhinged from the start. His reaction at the funeral service set the tone. Then leaving his job and home was not a good sign. Neither was his reaction to what he saw as a cover-up and or conspiracy regarding Kirin from Rakesh and Vanessa. Taking Rakesh's job and moving in on Rhona just set the wheels in motion.

The surprise is Rhona's lack of suspicious at his seemingly having moved on so quickly from Tess having been a man on the edge. Although, she too has jumped in with both feet given the circumstances.

I just hope Paddy doesn't save the day and that Rhona can rescue herself when the man turns completely psycho.
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Old 06-10-2016, 21:24
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Pierce can be evil personified but he'd still be worth 10 of the very awful Paddy. I reckon Rhona knows exactly how psycho Pierce can be but still has decided to choose him over Paddy and who could blame her.
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Old 06-10-2016, 21:39
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Has he turned bad since I saw him break glass with his palm
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Old 06-10-2016, 22:36
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Honestly I'm on his side, anything that makes Horrible Paddy's day even a little bit worse is time well spent.

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Pierce is mad as nuts, and clearly a controlling, nasty piece of work I would cross the road to avoid in real life ... but I kind of enjoy watching him. Plus, he's hot.

I'm sure I'll hate him later and be cheering Rhona on, but for now, yeah, I love him.
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Old 06-10-2016, 23:40
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Pierce is mad as nuts, and clearly a controlling, nasty piece of work I would cross the road to avoid in real life ... but I kind of enjoy watching him. Plus, he's hot.

I'm sure I'll hate him later and be cheering Rhona on, but for now, yeah, I love him.
You're both so right.
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Old 06-10-2016, 23:49
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I just can't with the Pierce story at all. He comes across to me as very unbelievable. I can't t see him becoming a long term character so I just don't t care.
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Old 07-10-2016, 07:45
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You're both so right.
Why thank you. From both of us.

Someone else has said this, but I quite like the slow drip feed of the story, that there was always just this sense that something wasn't right about Pierce, that he's very charming and seductive and good in bed, and Rhona has been very believably dragged in before his weird tendencies have started to show themselves.

It's a bit of a rip off of the Rob/Helen story on the Archers I think, but I'm enjoying it so far, with the exception of Paddy's "saviour" role. Rhona's a great lead for the story as well, because I know I'll be rooting for her.
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Old 07-10-2016, 10:18
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I wonder will he go all "Graham Clarke" and convince Rhona to die her hair to look like Tess
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Old 07-10-2016, 10:37
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I just can't with the Pierce story at all. He comes across to me as very unbelievable. I can't t see him becoming a long term character so I just don't t care.
This. The sooner he's gone the better
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