Are you being delibaratley irritating now? Is this a wind up?

I hardly ever get angry on these forums, but your ridiculous "woe is me" nonsense is enough to annoy anyone. If you can't handle what was actually a fairly restrained, measured response, don't post such opinionated, polarizing comments. How about that in future?

For Time has seen your faces, and Time never forgets.

One interesting thing about season 10 - regardless as to whether there's a regeneration or not - is whether Bill's been designed as a one-season companion like Donna or if she's going to be in season 11 too. If so, I wonder if Chibnall's had some input into her character/story.

I think there's bound to have been detailed discussions between Chibnall and Moffat, as there would've been with RTD and SM. I assume Chibbers is still busy on Broadchurch, but it's not *that* long before the new lad has to start pre-production. Maybe not actual input on Bill's character, but sure, think discussions about where things are going must've happened/will continue to happen...and with whom. Who. Whom. Who? No, it is 'whom' isn't it? Whatever! (eta Sorry, went a bit Alan Partridge v Simon the boy genius there. One for any fellow comedy nerds amongst us.)

No, it's fine thanks.

Don't forget, there was the Rugby 2015 World Cup playing over on ITV whilst Series 9 was being broadcast, with a few home nation games being played on Saturdays with huge viewer-pulling figures.

Ratings are down for numerous reasons. First of all is after 9 seasons a lot of the initial influx of new fans, would have left. It happens with every show, ratings go down because more and more people like different things etc etc and therefore down they go, doesn't mean the quality has.

Another reason horrific advertising, especially since their was an increase in the christmas special, it shows people still know about the show but need advertising to drag them in. As it is casual fans which make up the numbers, not hardcore fans. That said they did miss an opportunity to attract some new fans in S8, but sidelined Capaldi for Clara that didn't help.

The biggest reason why though, is less people and families watching TV. Everything is done online, it means more streams, less ratings and tougher to actually attract the family to watch the show. And with their being so many good shows, the competition is endless and people may put Doctor Who in the background.

That is the reasons why ratings are down, and if the BBC thought otherwise Capaldi would have been asked to leave. Because there is a final positive factor which i haven't mentioned, this show is world wide and very popular. It isn't just one demographic anymore.

The show's always had mass appeal. Some people just didn't like to admit they watched it. But certainly since 2005 it's not been something people were embarrassed to admit they watched.

Yes, how arrogant to have similar opinions that happen to differ to yours. I don't know what we were thinking going on a doctor who opinion forum to give our doctor who opinions.

When posters such as yourself resort to personal insults in such a way, it clearly shows you have nothing constructive to say.


Careful there, posting such an opinion will get you branded 'arrogant' by Thamwet

The past 5 years the show has grown massively internationally, done brilliant in that regard. And haven't they been looking for a replacement for a couple years now? They finally found one, so i'd hardly say they have just left the show to do what it wishes.

There definitely would have been, when it was announced Chibnall was showrunner i imagine Chibnall would have said what he wants to Moffat. As in i don't want a companion to carry over etc etc.

A lot of the issue was Clara; probably most. People didn't like Clara Who. They didn't like watching the companion's dating life being most of episodes. They didn't like stories as stupid as the moon being a giant egg or a forest being able to be a giant shield against fire. Clara was horrible, the scripts were horrible and The Doctor was reduced to the bumbling sidekick in Clara's show. It was all pretty bad.

A new showrunner with new ideas, new scripts and a new companion who hopefully won't suck all of the life, energy and fun out of the show is exactly what we need. We should keep The Doctor and see what he can do with good scripts and without being written merely as a secondary character to a sidekick.

On a slightly different note, Thamwet, is your name actually Matthew? I just happened to notice that your handle is an anagram of Matthew.

Yes, thankyou for demonstrating.

As I said, I really don't care what your opinion is, I simply dislike the way you seem to think that you know what's best for the show, whereas the bosses do not. I'm not alone in thinking this either, I'd bet.

Shame you and Mulett seem to take it as a personal insult, but that is your problem, not mine.

It is, yes. Well spotted!

Wow really lol.

Yeah, really haha. I pronounce it "Tamwet" though, silent "h".

But as it's not a real word, I guess anything goes.

considering how dreadful series 8 was thats not a surprise, people probably just gave up on the show, this is not down to Capaldi though, that was down to the appalling writing and completely drab unlikeable characters like Danny sodding Pink.
Series 9 improved considerably.

Everyone has there view on how the show could be improved in times they aren't enjoying it as much. Are you really suggesting that you've never thought that something could have been done/been handled better, and haven't said so on this forum, because I don't believe that for a minute.


There's no 'taking it' as anything. Sudden, out of the blue name calling is a personal insult. fact.

No, I've expressed my opinions before. Sure. That isn't what you were doing though, you were basically saying "here is how the show needs to go forward, I am right and the bosses are clueless, uninformed and wrong." I'm afraid that IS arrogance, to give the impression that you know better than the professionals.

Anyway, try and get over it, huh? I've been called by far worse on the internet and face to face.

I was really disappointed by Series 8 and I can understand it was part of the reason for the drop in viewers for Series 9 (as well as poor scheduling). Series 9 for me proved it wasn't Capaldi that that had been the problem but the writing (some of the story decisions were appalling - not just the moon and egg but also making the Doctor out to be an idiot in Robot's of Sherwood (and pretty much everything else about that story) and the way the Doctor was developed. There is some great stuff in there but overseeing of it all seemed more like a fan with no experience than a professional.

If they had just gone to the much better series 9 instead I think things would have gone down a lot better but it was too late and in the minds of the audience Peter Capaldi was the problem - which is a real shame.

I also think Clara should have gone at the end of 2014 - I never really was a fan of her

Yes, because I remember that time I called the bosses clueless...oh no, wait, it NEVER HAPPENED. All I've ever done, like many posters who have not enjoyed the Moffat era as much as what came before is to simply state my opinion that I haven't been enjoying it, and what i'd like to see in future that would make me enjoy it again.

Also, saying 'get over it' won't help you brush under the carpet the fact that you created a post to attack two forum members personally, who had done nothing to provoke you.

Quote from you: "Sigh. Indeed. So all the mainstream audience see is the 'same old, same old' that they've largely lost interest in, and Chibnall's chance to reinvigorate the show and the ratings disappears before he's even written a word if Capaldi does stay for series 11.

For me personally, it's not that I entirely dislike Capaldi in the role, but I would want a clean break from the Moffat era once he's finally out the door, with a Doctor that isn't already associated with a ratings drop era."
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It's not what just what you say, it's the attitude that comes across. The bosses, who have by far more knowledge on the show's wellbeing than you do, have decided to offer Capaldi another year. Just as they decided to offer him series 10, when I reckon they'd have had time to find someone else if they'd wanted to, what with a huge gap in production.

Yet for some unknown reason, you think that you know more about the show's health. You try to pass off your opinions as fact, you seem to have decided that the show is in a bad way, and that the bosses can't possibly know as much about it as you do. It's not what you say always. It's what you imply.

I echo my advice to "Mulett." You, like the rest of us here, are a fan. You do NOT have a broad picture of the show's current viability and success, nor do you really have any business knowing it. You should simply enjoy watching the show, and when the bosses show signs of concern, then it might be time to worry. But as they haven't yet shown any such concern, we have no reason to be.

I mean, come on. You can't seriously think that the BBC would have let Capaldi stay on for three series, let alone offer him a fourth, if they were worried?

I don't try to' pretend I know whats best', I simply say how I think things could be improved, or done better in my personal opinion, and no more so more than any of the other more passionate posters on here. What you perceive as me thinking I know whats best is simply me saying what I'd like to see, which many posters do all the time.

I do think a fresh start needs to be a fresh start completely to get the best chance at a new/returning audience, indeed. I stand by it, and every word in the above post from me that you've quoted. But that is simply my opinion, and one shared by others in the same way that the idea that Capaldi should stay is an opinion, shared by various posters.

If I had the same conviction in my opinions as I do now, but they were opinions that matched yours, I'm sure you'd be patting me on the back rather than insulting me. It all comes down to you seemingly thinking that personally insulting those who dare to say a different view to yours is acceptable, when it isn't.

Continue to try and bully, lecture and insult if you really feel the need, but you won't scare me off from expressing my opinion. Your opinion is no more valid than mine.

Just saying, how is it any different than when you come out with something like "You're only saying this about Tennant because you don't want to admit he's popular"? Calling Thamwet's remark a personal attack is pushing it, but being "bullied into not expressing your opinion"? I think you're getting a little overexcited there.