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Have I Got News for You - Series 52
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jonner101
12-11-2016
Didn't really understand why the Corbyn section was funny either

But the biggest sin was surely the re-hash of the tired old Liverpool and no wheels gag ( yawn )

As I said this was tired and unfunny. Why not get some one in who was a Trump supporter and have a bit of banter.
Sambda
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by burneside:
“I suspect that if Clinton had won the election then tonight's programme would have had a quite different tone.”

It wouldn't have been nearly so vitriolic and grumpy, I think. And that's the problem - the show is presumably meant to be politically neutral overall, which it usually manages to be. I think the whole show was very one-sided. I know it's easy to go for the easy targets in humour, but it would be much cleverer if somebody on this show had dug a little deeper to take the piss out of both sides. Find something funny about Clinton. These people are highly paid satirists/humourists; it's their job.

I'm afraid most of the humour last night got lost in obvious bitterness. At the end of the day, it's a democratic decision made by a free Western country. Can it possibly quite as loony as this lot were painting? Unless they're claiming that (literally) half of America is completely stupid... and that's probably a bit racist, non?
EssexCurmudgeon
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sambda:
“It wouldn't have been nearly so vitriolic and grumpy, I think. And that's the problem - the show is presumably meant to be politically neutral overall, which it usually manages to be. I think the whole show was very one-sided. I know it's easy to go for the easy targets in humour, but it would be much cleverer if somebody on this show had dug a little deeper to take the piss out of both sides. Find something funny about Clinton. These people are highly paid satirists/humourists; it's their job.

I'm afraid most of the humour last night got lost in obvious bitterness. At the end of the day, it's a democratic decision made by a free Western country. Can it possibly quite as loony as this lot were painting? Unless they're claiming that (literally) half of America is completely stupid... and that's probably a bit racist, non?”

I've watched HIGNIFY all my life but it's just getting boring now. It's the Marcus Brigstocke sort of 'humour' that relies on the audience agreeing on the political outlook. "Mrs Thatch - don't you hate her? Hahaha ... The Tories... don't you hate them? hahaha ... Donald Trump - he's mad .. don't you hate him? Snigger hahaha"
This isn't satire, it's just juvenile virtue signalling.
inothernews
12-11-2016
Last night should have been so good. So much for them to go at, but possibly the worst edition ever.

Rich Hall looked like he has been sleeping rough for the last few weeks and/or drunk. He added nothing.
best boy
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by EssexCurmudgeon:
“I've watched HIGNIFY all my life but it's just getting boring now. It's the Marcus Brigstocke sort of 'humour' that relies on the audience agreeing on the political outlook. "Mrs Thatch - don't you hate her? Hahaha ... The Tories... don't you hate them? hahaha ... Donald Trump - he's mad .. don't you hate him? Snigger hahaha"
This isn't satire, it's just juvenile virtue signalling.”

Well said - the achingly trendy lefties just don't get that the political landscape is changing. Brigstocke has made an entire career out of doing an inane, open-mouthed expression over the top of his glasses which chimes with the kind of idiots who attend his 'live' shows.
I'm sure supporters of Brexit ('closet racists, fruitcakes and loonies) and Trump (racist, rednecks, 'basket of deplorables' etc.) have endured far worse - and better thought-out 'insults' - at junior school.
jimbo1962
12-11-2016
last weeks and last nights were vintage, its as funny as it has ever been and it really helps when there a big political story.
Artygill
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by jimbo1962:
“last weeks and last nights were vintage, its as funny as it has ever been and it really helps when there a big political story.”

I'm glad you enjoyed them. For me, last night's edition was a big disappointment. It made for uncomfortable viewing, particularly Maureen Lipman's contribution. I used to be a fan.

When will actors and singers stop thinking they can influence voters. Its insulting and certainly didn't work for Cameron or Clinton. Sorry...... a little off topic I suppose.
Janet43
12-11-2016
I'm really surprised that some just don't get this show.

Of course they're going to have a go at anything and everything, emphasising any titbit that can be perceived by even one person as wrong/funny/bizarre about any situation. If they didn't there'd be no show - Trump won by a democratic vote; end of programme still with 27 minutes to fill.

You have to forget your own opinions when watching.
jcafcw
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sambda:
“It wouldn't have been nearly so vitriolic and grumpy, I think. And that's the problem - the show is presumably meant to be politically neutral overall, which it usually manages to be. I think the whole show was very one-sided. I know it's easy to go for the easy targets in humour, but it would be much cleverer if somebody on this show had dug a little deeper to take the piss out of both sides. Find something funny about Clinton. These people are highly paid satirists/humourists; it's their job.

I'm afraid most of the humour last night got lost in obvious bitterness. At the end of the day, it's a democratic decision made by a free Western country. Can it possibly quite as loony as this lot were painting? Unless they're claiming that (literally) half of America is completely stupid... and that's probably a bit racist, non?”

There is nothing funny about Clinton and there never will be. She is a career politician whose slavish devotion to the system gave this crazy, blowhard, sexist, racist the keys to the White House.

Both the Republicans and the Democrats should be ashamed of themselves not putting up credible candidates.

Trump will be the gift that keeps on giving as he is an arrogant idiot. Pointing and laughing at him is the correct response. Ignoring Clinton's existence is also the correct one. There were no jokes about her as she is already, thankfully, an irrelevance.

Finding a Trump supporter will be difficult as even most Republicans hate him and are just using him.

Of course we could all cry like little children and throw a hissy fit because they were being mean to the ickle poor President.
nic6
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“I'm really surprised that some just don't get this show.

Of course they're going to have a go at anything and everything, emphasising any titbit that can be perceived by even one person as wrong/funny/bizarre about any situation. If they didn't there'd be no show - Trump won by a democratic vote; end of programme still with 27 minutes to fill.

You have to forget your own opinions when watching.”

The problem with the show now is it's predictable and completely biased. Same layout every week, Anti-Brexit Anti-Trump and Anti-Russian. That Lipman woman was an embassment just whinging, Hislop has become a bore with his Anti-Brexit views and Merton is just a yes man who just turns up for his salary. Now is a good time for this show to be scrapped.
Sadeyed
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by BelfastGuy125:
“Look I don't like Trump, I wouldnt have voted for him if I was an American.

But I'm getting awfully tired of constantly hearing voices and jokes about him causing the end of the world and just a constant stream of derision about it. It was a democratic election, people voted. Hillary was the one incidentally who was more at danger of war and military expansion. It's just all the same voices rounding on him too. Do the BBC and Ian Hislop/Charlie Brooker etc not realise that their kind of sneering is exactly why people turn to Brexit and Trump? (two decisions I must stress again I fundamentally disagree with, but respect they won a democratic vote). Millions of people watch HIGNFY every week and no wonder they want to kick the establishment when posh Ian Hislop and Charlie Brooker are telling them they are morons.

Trump looks silly and he has insane views about things so I expect him to be the subject of satire. The problem is there was literally one quip made about Hillary and it is the same with all these panel shows I've seen the last week. Hillary was absolute balls. The Democrats are not some infallible humanitarian organisation FYI.”

I wish there was a "like" button on here.
Inkblot
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“I'm really surprised that some just don't get this show.

Of course they're going to have a go at anything and everything, emphasising any titbit that can be perceived by even one person as wrong/funny/bizarre about any situation. If they didn't there'd be no show - Trump won by a democratic vote; end of programme still with 27 minutes to fill.

You have to forget your own opinions when watching.”

Exactly. The weakest bits are always the funny photos and the comedy videos nicked from YouTube (like the dog that might have been auditioning for the John Lewis advert) because there's no edge to them. What makes satire enjoyable is it's angry; it's not a lighthearted look at the news, it's a furious attack on all that's stupid and ridiculous in the world.

There's probably room for a more lighthearted topical comedy show - maybe they should revamp Mock the Week with less swearing and a more likeable host.
JeffG1
12-11-2016
I'm going to have to refrain from commenting because most of the contributors on here must have been watching a totally different show.

Perhaps I am easily amused, just go with the flow and don't try to academically dissect everything. Obviously it's going to appear lefty to the right-wingers on here, but then that probably applies to every programme they watch.
Sadeyed
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by JeffG1:
“I'm going to have to refrain from commenting because most of the contributors on here must have been watching a totally different show.

Perhaps I am easily amused, just go with the flow and don't try to academically dissect everything. Obviously it's going to appear lefty to the right-wingers on here, but then that probably applies to every programme they watch.”

Sometimes it's nothing to do with a persons political leanings as to whether they are amused, sometimes they just don't find something funny. Doesn't mean they are more right wing or less intelligent, it just didn't make them laugh.

I am far from a Trump supporter but I found this show predictable and trite. And this is from someone who rated it as her favourite unmissable programme for many years.
inothernews
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sadeyed:
“Sometimes it's nothing to do with a persons political leanings as to whether they are amused, sometimes they just don't find something funny. Doesn't mean they are more right wing or less intelligent, it just didn't make them laugh.

I am far from a Trump supporter but I found this show predictable and trite. And this is from someone who rated it as her favourite unmissable programme for many years.”

#

My litmus test is simple.

Did it make me laugh?

And yesterday felt like a wasted opportunity. It seemed like they were collectively all too angry/dismayed/bemused than to be funny. More like just telling us what we should think than hitting the target.
Straker
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by nic6:
“The problem with the show now is it's predictable and completely biased. Same layout every week, Anti-Brexit Anti-Trump and Anti-Russian. That Lipman woman was an embassment just whinging, Hislop has become a bore with his Anti-Brexit views and Merton is just a yes man who just turns up for his salary. Now is a good time for this show to be scrapped.”

Originally Posted by nic6:
“Typical BBC production, Anti-Brexit and Anti-Russian, great to see the Brexit win and Trump victorious, the Luvvies at the BBC need to get over it. ”

Originally Posted by nic6:
“Oh dear this series is getting embarrassing

So predictale Anti- Trump and soon to follow Anti-Brexit and Anti- Russian.”

Why do you keep posting the exact same thing over and over?
lundavra
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by jcafcw:
“Trump will be the gift that keeps on giving as he is an arrogant idiot. Pointing and laughing at him is the correct response. Ignoring Clinton's existence is also the correct one. There were no jokes about her as she is already, thankfully, an irrelevance. ”

But the Liberals are an irrelevance here yet people still find good gags about Nick Clegg and Tim Farage.
lundavra
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by inothernews:
“#

My litmus test is simple.

Did it make me laugh?

And yesterday felt like a wasted opportunity. It seemed like they were collectively all too angry/dismayed/bemused than to be funny. More like just telling us what we should think than hitting the target.”

It just just never stood a chance. Never found either Brooker or Hall remotely funny and Lipman does not even try to be funny.
jcafcw
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“But the Liberals are an irrelevance here yet people still find good gags about Nick Clegg and Tim Farage.”

How often do we hear jokes about Miliband.

And Clegg was only really because he appeared on the show.

Face it Trump is news, Clinton is history. Only a bad comedian would continue to make jokes about her?
Blueju
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by jonner101:
“Didn't really understand why the Corbyn section was funny either

But the biggest sin was surely the re-hash of the tired old Liverpool and no wheels gag ( yawn )

As I said this was tired and unfunny. Why not get some one in who was a Trump supporter and have a bit of banter.”

I only watch HIGNFY now if theres a good guest mix and therefore the possibility of some really funny and witty exchanges.....a shame really as I was always a massive fan of the show from the early days with Angus Deayton at the helm. Its now become a tired old shell of itself. Paul Merton has coasted for quite some time now in a "cant be arsed with all this" sort of way. Ive been a regular subscriber to Private Eye from well before HIGNY arrived and unfortunately, it would appear that Ian Hislop's somewhat pompous contribution has now started to run in tandem with that of of his magazine...dull, repetitive and rather smug and having the same old zzz targets. Sadly,
I don't think I'll be renewing when my current subscription ends.
Ps...that the show's production team sanctioned last night's old as the hills hackneyed dig about Liverpool says more about them and Brooker than it ever does about Liverpool...not a knee jerk either considering Harry Enfield's "de do doh don't dee doh" - The Scousers still makes us laugh out loud here.
inothernews
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by jcafcw:
“How often do we hear jokes about Miliband.

And Clegg was only really because he appeared on the show.

Face it Trump is news, Clinton is history. Only a bad comedian would continue to make jokes about her?”

Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair are history, but I have a feeling they still crop up quite often.
jjwales
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by lundavra:
“It just just never stood a chance. Never found either Brooker or Hall remotely funny and Lipman does not even try to be funny.”

As with all humour, it's all down to personal taste. What you find unfunny, others will not.
lundavra
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by jcafcw:
“How often do we hear jokes about Miliband.

And Clegg was only really because he appeared on the show.

Face it Trump is news, Clinton is history. Only a bad comedian would continue to make jokes about her?”

Who?

We do get the odd joke about Ed in various places and his brother was victim of one of the funniest comments about a British politician which is still heard.

Clegg does seem to being seen a bit more often recently, perhaps the Liberals have realised that his replacement is even more useless than he was.
lundavra
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Blueju:
“I only watch HIGNFY now if theres a good guest mix and therefore the possibility of some really funny and witty exchanges.....a shame really as I was always a massive fan of the show from the early days with Angus Deayton at the helm. Its now become a tired old shell of itself. Paul Merton has coasted for quite some time now in a "cant be arsed with all this" sort of way. Ive been a regular subscriber to Private Eye from well before HIGNY arrived and unfortunately, it would appear that Ian Hislop's somewhat pompous contribution has now started to run in tandem with that of of his magazine...dull, repetitive and rather smug and having the same old zzz targets. Sadly,
I don't think I'll be renewing when my current subscription ends.
Ps...that the show's production team sanctioned last night's old as the hills hackneyed dig about Liverpool says more about them and Brooker than it ever does about Liverpool...not a knee jerk either considering Harry Enfield's "de do doh don't dee doh" - The Scousers still makes us laugh out loud here.”

I just remember Deayton as being too full of himself, I don't think he was anywhere near as good as some people think he was. I suppose Hislop and Merton could always make a joke about him if things were flagging.
RickLopez
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by jonner101:
“They forgot this is meant to be a comedy entertainment show this week and just made it a political tirade against Trump so it just was boring. It proves the BBC are losing the plot

They should have had someone like Katie hopkins or Clarkson as the host that would have been funny as it would have set up some banter.

Lipman wasn't in the least bit funny and just came across as bitter. Total waste of time. Is this the policy where they have to have a female guest on now ?”

Right, okay.

And yes, a woman is compulsory since 2013 I think, which makes sense. Panel shows are too male dominated anyway.
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