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Old 08-10-2016, 14:25
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clegg is good at reading an autocue, which is not surprising as most politicians have to learn to do that well.

The jokes at his expense, that were on the autocue, were embarassing though and completely unfunny and forced.

Ian and paul are dialling it in now, the show should be cancelled
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Old 08-10-2016, 21:24
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I haven't watched this for years, for reasons others on here have cited - cringeworthy guests, unfunny remarks and just plain dullness. I thought last night's was OK, though. I usually can't stand Clegg, but he did a good job.

I don't know that Roisin person, but she was a waste of space imo.
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Old 09-10-2016, 10:46
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John Torode and Gregg Wallace were the worst hosts ever, they were worse than everyone who's ever hosted HIGNFY
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Old 09-10-2016, 22:13
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Well these days I only ever watch the extended version so I wait until tomorrow to pass judgement.
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Old 10-10-2016, 00:46
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Ian and paul are dialling it in now, the show should be cancelled
Please can anyone be banned who says that Ian and/or Paul are phoning/dialling in their performances?
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Old 10-10-2016, 00:59
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Please can anyone be banned who says that Ian and/or Paul are phoning/dialling in their performances?

Ian and Paul are way, way, way past their sell by date on this show. They both refuse to do the dignified thing and step down (as Stephen Fry did on QI), so the BBC should ship them out.

I'd be politically correct and replace them with women, or one woman and a bloke.....

Hislop in particular is a bit of a bore on the show. And whenever there is an ex-Labour politician from th eBlair years, Hislop hijacks the show and turns it into Have I got News From Fifteen Years Ago For You....It's boring Hislop. It's boring BBC.

I would swap Hislop with Victoria Coren, even though I hate her as she is the personification of nepotism at the BBC. I'd swap Merton with that Scottish comedian whose name escapes me, but he has a laid back kind of humour.

Maybe those replacements might get me trolled into non existence, but I think there can be few people who think the merton and Hislop should get another 20 or 30 years.

Good show, bad panelists.
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Old 10-10-2016, 02:26
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Ian and Paul are way, way, way past their sell by date on this show. They both refuse to do the dignified thing and step down (as Stephen Fry did on QI), so the BBC should ship them out.

I'd be politically correct and replace them with women, or one woman and a bloke.....

Hislop in particular is a bit of a bore on the show. And whenever there is an ex-Labour politician from th eBlair years, Hislop hijacks the show and turns it into Have I got News From Fifteen Years Ago For You....It's boring Hislop. It's boring BBC.

I would swap Hislop with Victoria Coren, even though I hate her as she is the personification of nepotism at the BBC. I'd swap Merton with that Scottish comedian whose name escapes me, but he has a laid back kind of humour.

Maybe those replacements might get me trolled into non existence, but I think there can be few people who think the merton and Hislop should get another 20 or 30 years.

Good show, bad panelists.
Kevin Bridges? http://www.theartsdesk.com/sites/def...idges_two.jpeg
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Old 10-10-2016, 08:39
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Please can anyone be banned who says that Ian and/or Paul are phoning/dialling in their performances?
There is a certain irony to the repetitive use of such short-hand to accuse others of not putting the effort into originality.

I liked this week's show. Clegg was a good host, beyond reading the auto-cue, and I expect he'll be invited back. There was a lot of good material available, which helps - even though so much gets covered by social media before the show can be aired. It's a big challenge for the researchers to find material that is funny, topical, and not already used by others. I liked the guests too. They weren't spectacular, but solid enough.

I agree that panel shows can get a bit tedious with the same team captains. I had that issue with Phil Jupitus on NMTB. Ian and Paul used to be opposites, but the passing of time and shared experience means they've got much more in common. Ian was the old fart who didn't know about popular culture, while Paul was the young alternative sort. I still like Paul, but it would be easier to replace him with a younger model.
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Old 10-10-2016, 09:13
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There is a certain irony to the repetitive use of such short-hand to accuse others of not putting the effort into originality.

I liked this week's show. Clegg was a good host, beyond reading the auto-cue, and I expect he'll be invited back. There was a lot of good material available, which helps - even though so much gets covered by social media before the show can be aired. It's a big challenge for the researchers to find material that is funny, topical, and not already used by others. I liked the guests too. They weren't spectacular, but solid enough.

I agree that panel shows can get a bit tedious with the same team captains. I had that issue with Phil Jupitus on NMTB. Ian and Paul used to be opposites, but the passing of time and shared experience means they've got much more in common. Ian was the old fart who didn't know about popular culture, while Paul was the young alternative sort. I still like Paul, but it would be easier to replace him with a younger model.
Like David Mitchell and Lee Mack on Would I Lie To You?, they overplay that for the show.
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Old 10-10-2016, 09:18
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I would swap Hislop with Victoria Coren, even though I hate her as she is the personification of nepotism at the BBC. I'd swap Merton with that Scottish comedian whose name escapes me, but he has a laid back kind of humour.
Even on a bad week, Ian Hislop and Paul Merton are still far funnier than any of the stand-up comedians that populate all the other panel shows.

If that is the Scottish 'comedian' that I am thinking of, then he is completely unfunny and I would stop watching. Vicky Coren certainly has the quick wit needed but I don't think she would want to get tied down to the programme and there is no vacancy.
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Old 10-10-2016, 09:39
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Even on a bad week, Ian Hislop and Paul Merton are still far funnier than any of the stand-up comedians that populate all the other panel shows.

If that is the Scottish 'comedian' that I am thinking of, then he is completely unfunny and I would stop watching. Vicky Coren certainly has the quick wit needed but I don't think she would want to get tied down to the programme and there is no vacancy.
I agree with this 100% - even when dialling in their performances they pee all over other comedy hosts IMO.
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Old 10-10-2016, 10:04
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If that is the Scottish 'comedian' that I am thinking of, then he is completely unfunny.
If you're talking about Kevin Bridges, then you obviously missed his story about accidentally buying a horse on WILTY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkXxmMUIx8k
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Old 10-10-2016, 13:16
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Ian is pretty good value for money, lets face it, Private Eye is just about the last bastion of 'proper journalism' in this country these days.

Paul though, blimey, seems utterly disinterested. The one show of a series where he comes alive is when R. Noble is booked to come on. Then he is his old self.
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Old 10-10-2016, 13:37
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Ian and Paul are way, way, way past their sell by date on this show. They both refuse to do the dignified thing and step down (as Stephen Fry did on QI), so the BBC should ship them out.

I'd be politically correct and replace them with women, or one woman and a bloke.....

Hislop in particular is a bit of a bore on the show. And whenever there is an ex-Labour politician from th eBlair years, Hislop hijacks the show and turns it into Have I got News From Fifteen Years Ago For You....It's boring Hislop. It's boring BBC.

I would swap Hislop with Victoria Coren, even though I hate her as she is the personification of nepotism at the BBC. I'd swap Merton with that Scottish comedian whose name escapes me, but he has a laid back kind of humour.

Maybe those replacements might get me trolled into non existence, but I think there can be few people who think the merton and Hislop should get another 20 or 30 years.

Good show, bad panelists.
The thing is, they are HIGNFY and doing some sort of typical 'revamp', which is too often the methodology nowadays, is equally moronic.

The fact of the matter is that the episodes are hit-and-miss, but that's normal and especially so for a programme as long-running as this. Changing people out is just an exercise in keeping the name and creating a similar programme with other people. Victoria Coren is not politically witty enough to carry it. Anyway, within ten years there'd be a cohort of Digital Spy people crying about how 'classic HIGNFY' ought be resurrected by the BBC; "bring back Ian and Paul..tr-la-la!"

I like people with a long political memory anyway. I want Ian to remind people that Nu Labour swindlers who crop up on the programme have not be rehabilitated because they are on HIGNFY. Just like so many people seemed to forget that the resurfaced Oliver Letwin was a Thatcherite adjutant.

To fall back on the classic DS retort: if the programme no longer pleases you, switch over.
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Old 10-10-2016, 16:05
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The thing is, they are HIGNFY and doing some sort of typical 'revamp', which is too often the methodology nowadays, is equally moronic.

The fact of the matter is that the episodes are hit-and-miss, but that's normal and especially so for a programme as long-running as this. Changing people out is just an exercise in keeping the name and creating a similar programme with other people. Victoria Coren is not politically witty enough to carry it. Anyway, within ten years there'd be a cohort of Digital Spy people crying about how 'classic HIGNFY' ought be resurrected by the BBC; "bring back Ian and Paul..tr-la-la!"

I like people with a long political memory anyway. I want Ian to remind people that Nu Labour swindlers who crop up on the programme have not be rehabilitated because they are on HIGNFY. Just like so many people seemed to forget that the resurfaced Oliver Letwin was a Thatcherite adjutant.

To fall back on the classic DS retort: if the programme no longer pleases you, switch over.
I agree. There's something reassuring about Ian and Paul on HIGNFY, they're not just comedians, they're interesting people with other talents like writing and presenting who bring a depth and maturity to a panel show that you just don't get on other topical news quizzes like Mock The Week and 8 Our of 10 Cats where the panellists seem to be generic lefty-student comics.

That said, like most BBC shows, HIGNFY seems to have an increasingly left wing agenda these days, where a disproportionate number of jokes are aimed at UKIP/The Tories/Leave voters/Donald Trump, etc. A topical news quiz doesn't necessarily have to be about politics , there are plenty of quirkier news stories that are not about politics that would be far more amusing to focus on.
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Old 10-10-2016, 18:21
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Ian and Paul are way, way, way past their sell by date on this show. They both refuse to do the dignified thing and step down (as Stephen Fry did on QI), so the BBC should ship them out.

I'd be politically correct and replace them with women, or one woman and a bloke.....

Hislop in particular is a bit of a bore on the show. And whenever there is an ex-Labour politician from th eBlair years, Hislop hijacks the show and turns it into Have I got News From Fifteen Years Ago For You....It's boring Hislop. It's boring BBC.

I would swap Hislop with Victoria Coren, even though I hate her as she is the personification of nepotism at the BBC. I'd swap Merton with that Scottish comedian whose name escapes me, but he has a laid back kind of humour.

Maybe those replacements might get me trolled into non existence, but I think there can be few people who think the merton and Hislop should get another 20 or 30 years.

Good show, bad panelists.
BIB would be pandering to your personal opinion, not doing the decent thing. In the case of QI I think it was much more that Fry was bored with it and less that he felt people were bored with him. The BBC certainly would have never pushed him out of it before series Z.

Hislop is the very soul of this show. He rarely gives a poor performance. Probably the best satirist in the UK. You might be tired of him but that doesn't mean he has to go. Merton sometimes seems bored but never for long. He has a habit of striking a facial expression if he can't think of a witty respone to something and sometimes that means he looks bored. Other times his guest is slow or unfunny and he has nothing to feed off. He was good in this show.

Victoria Coren has been rather mixed as a guest on HIGNFY, sometimes good sometime awful. She'd be a risk as a permanent panelist. She isn't really a satirist and the show needs that skill. Anyway she's got her own quiz show which suits her better.

Why is VC the personification of nepotism? What about Giles C? Both Dimbleby's? Zoe Ball? Fearne Cotton? Sure, a lot of people might have got a start at the BBC because of family connections, but they all only stayed long term because they are actually good at it. VC is very different in style to her dad. She certainly didn't follow in his footsteps.

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Clegg was an excellent host and overall it was a good series opener. I can't see why some people thought it was dull.
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Old 10-10-2016, 18:31
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Please can anyone be banned who says that Ian and/or Paul are phoning/dialling in their performances?
especially if its combined with the show's jumped the shark
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Old 10-10-2016, 19:27
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Keep Hislop but replace Merton with Charlie Brooker?
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Old 10-10-2016, 20:22
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Keep Hislop but replace Merton with Charlie Brooker?
Sadly I think Charlie Brooker would decline that role, too much other stuff going on. but I'd love him to do it.

Also, Paul is actually older than Ian for anyone wondering.
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Old 10-10-2016, 23:07
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Extended version is good. Clegg's a very creditable host and I can easily see him being asked back.
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Old 11-10-2016, 01:15
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This is the only time I'd praise Nick Cleg, but he did well. Now i'd really like to see Ed Milliband give it a go! Or even better, David Cameron.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:35
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That said, like most BBC shows, HIGNFY seems to have an increasingly left wing agenda these days, where a disproportionate number of jokes are aimed at UKIP/The Tories/Leave voters/Donald Trump, etc. A topical news quiz doesn't necessarily have to be about politics , there are plenty of quirkier news stories that are not about politics that would be far more amusing to focus on.
These shows work best when they are poking fun at the government of the day. If the Tories are in power, then that means they get it in the neck. As Leave won, but all of their leadership b*ggered off, and hoping someone else sorts it, then it is a very obvious, and necessary subject for satire.

I suspect many of those who think it's not as good at is used to be are natural Tory supporters, who thought it was great when they were giving Labour a kicking week after week.

As for Trump, there is no real way to attempt 'balance'. His own supporters within his own party are distancing themselves from him, and who wants to be the person giving the "It's OK to claim you sexually assault women" perspective?
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Old 11-10-2016, 09:05
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I agree. There's something reassuring about Ian and Paul on HIGNFY, they're not just comedians, they're interesting people with other talents like writing and presenting who bring a depth and maturity to a panel show that you just don't get on other topical news quizzes like Mock The Week and 8 Our of 10 Cats where the panellists seem to be generic lefty-student comics.

That said, like most BBC shows, HIGNFY seems to have an increasingly left wing agenda these days, where a disproportionate number of jokes are aimed at UKIP/The Tories/Leave voters/Donald Trump, etc. A topical news quiz doesn't necessarily have to be about politics , there are plenty of quirkier news stories that are not about politics that would be far more amusing to focus on.
I think the problem is the so-called comedians that they have as guests. They tend to be classic Champagne Socialists, very wealthy probably with interesting tax arrangements to keep their wealth but much of their script seems to be mocking anyone not on the Left.
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:32
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I think the problem is the so-called comedians that they have as guests. They tend to be classic Champagne Socialists, very wealthy probably with interesting tax arrangements to keep their wealth but much of their script seems to be mocking anyone not on the Left.
Except when they mock Corbyn of course, or Prescott in the old days. The people mostly making the news at the moment are right wing so it isn't surprising the satire looks anti-right. But in fact it is always mocking the establishment, whatever political colour it has.

Calling them all champagne socialists is utterly ridiculous. What are people supposed to do if they are left leaning but fairly well off? I doubt many of the comedians can afford to live a champagne lifestyle, or even want to. Except Alexander Armstrong and Miles Jupp naturally.

Why do people on the right think only the less well off can support left wing ideals? Anyone else is called a champagne socialist. And the less well off are labelled as being motivated by jealousy.
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Old 11-10-2016, 15:14
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I thought Clegg did a decent job & he even poked fun at himself.
I think he's been the best out of all the politicians who've hosted the show.

Usually, a lot of them are really awkward (Boris), or get down right pissed off when Hislop/Merton make fun of them (A. Campbell). But he seemed right at home and took himself for a laugh.

I think he gets that he's not really that liked anymore and takes it for granted.
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