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clegg is good at reading an autocue, which is not surprising as most politicians have to learn to do that well.
The jokes at his expense, that were on the autocue, were embarassing though and completely unfunny and forced. Ian and paul are dialling it in now, the show should be cancelled |
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I haven't watched this for years, for reasons others on here have cited - cringeworthy guests, unfunny remarks and just plain dullness. I thought last night's was OK, though. I usually can't stand Clegg, but he did a good job.
I don't know that Roisin person, but she was a waste of space imo. |
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John Torode and Gregg Wallace were the worst hosts ever, they were worse than everyone who's ever hosted HIGNFY
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Well these days I only ever watch the extended version so I wait until tomorrow to pass judgement.
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Ian and paul are dialling it in now, the show should be cancelled
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Please can anyone be banned who says that Ian and/or Paul are phoning/dialling in their performances?
Ian and Paul are way, way, way past their sell by date on this show. They both refuse to do the dignified thing and step down (as Stephen Fry did on QI), so the BBC should ship them out. I'd be politically correct and replace them with women, or one woman and a bloke..... Hislop in particular is a bit of a bore on the show. And whenever there is an ex-Labour politician from th eBlair years, Hislop hijacks the show and turns it into Have I got News From Fifteen Years Ago For You....It's boring Hislop. It's boring BBC. I would swap Hislop with Victoria Coren, even though I hate her as she is the personification of nepotism at the BBC. I'd swap Merton with that Scottish comedian whose name escapes me, but he has a laid back kind of humour. Maybe those replacements might get me trolled into non existence, but I think there can be few people who think the merton and Hislop should get another 20 or 30 years. Good show, bad panelists. |
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Ian and Paul are way, way, way past their sell by date on this show. They both refuse to do the dignified thing and step down (as Stephen Fry did on QI), so the BBC should ship them out.
I'd be politically correct and replace them with women, or one woman and a bloke..... Hislop in particular is a bit of a bore on the show. And whenever there is an ex-Labour politician from th eBlair years, Hislop hijacks the show and turns it into Have I got News From Fifteen Years Ago For You....It's boring Hislop. It's boring BBC. I would swap Hislop with Victoria Coren, even though I hate her as she is the personification of nepotism at the BBC. I'd swap Merton with that Scottish comedian whose name escapes me, but he has a laid back kind of humour. Maybe those replacements might get me trolled into non existence, but I think there can be few people who think the merton and Hislop should get another 20 or 30 years. Good show, bad panelists. |
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Please can anyone be banned who says that Ian and/or Paul are phoning/dialling in their performances?
I liked this week's show. Clegg was a good host, beyond reading the auto-cue, and I expect he'll be invited back. There was a lot of good material available, which helps - even though so much gets covered by social media before the show can be aired. It's a big challenge for the researchers to find material that is funny, topical, and not already used by others. I liked the guests too. They weren't spectacular, but solid enough. I agree that panel shows can get a bit tedious with the same team captains. I had that issue with Phil Jupitus on NMTB. Ian and Paul used to be opposites, but the passing of time and shared experience means they've got much more in common. Ian was the old fart who didn't know about popular culture, while Paul was the young alternative sort. I still like Paul, but it would be easier to replace him with a younger model. |
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There is a certain irony to the repetitive use of such short-hand to accuse others of not putting the effort into originality.
I liked this week's show. Clegg was a good host, beyond reading the auto-cue, and I expect he'll be invited back. There was a lot of good material available, which helps - even though so much gets covered by social media before the show can be aired. It's a big challenge for the researchers to find material that is funny, topical, and not already used by others. I liked the guests too. They weren't spectacular, but solid enough. I agree that panel shows can get a bit tedious with the same team captains. I had that issue with Phil Jupitus on NMTB. Ian and Paul used to be opposites, but the passing of time and shared experience means they've got much more in common. Ian was the old fart who didn't know about popular culture, while Paul was the young alternative sort. I still like Paul, but it would be easier to replace him with a younger model. |
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I would swap Hislop with Victoria Coren, even though I hate her as she is the personification of nepotism at the BBC. I'd swap Merton with that Scottish comedian whose name escapes me, but he has a laid back kind of humour.
If that is the Scottish 'comedian' that I am thinking of, then he is completely unfunny and I would stop watching. Vicky Coren certainly has the quick wit needed but I don't think she would want to get tied down to the programme and there is no vacancy. |
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Even on a bad week, Ian Hislop and Paul Merton are still far funnier than any of the stand-up comedians that populate all the other panel shows.
If that is the Scottish 'comedian' that I am thinking of, then he is completely unfunny and I would stop watching. Vicky Coren certainly has the quick wit needed but I don't think she would want to get tied down to the programme and there is no vacancy. |
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If that is the Scottish 'comedian' that I am thinking of, then he is completely unfunny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkXxmMUIx8k |
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Ian is pretty good value for money, lets face it, Private Eye is just about the last bastion of 'proper journalism' in this country these days.
Paul though, blimey, seems utterly disinterested. The one show of a series where he comes alive is when R. Noble is booked to come on. Then he is his old self. |
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Ian and Paul are way, way, way past their sell by date on this show. They both refuse to do the dignified thing and step down (as Stephen Fry did on QI), so the BBC should ship them out.
I'd be politically correct and replace them with women, or one woman and a bloke..... Hislop in particular is a bit of a bore on the show. And whenever there is an ex-Labour politician from th eBlair years, Hislop hijacks the show and turns it into Have I got News From Fifteen Years Ago For You....It's boring Hislop. It's boring BBC. I would swap Hislop with Victoria Coren, even though I hate her as she is the personification of nepotism at the BBC. I'd swap Merton with that Scottish comedian whose name escapes me, but he has a laid back kind of humour. Maybe those replacements might get me trolled into non existence, but I think there can be few people who think the merton and Hislop should get another 20 or 30 years. Good show, bad panelists. The fact of the matter is that the episodes are hit-and-miss, but that's normal and especially so for a programme as long-running as this. Changing people out is just an exercise in keeping the name and creating a similar programme with other people. Victoria Coren is not politically witty enough to carry it. Anyway, within ten years there'd be a cohort of Digital Spy people crying about how 'classic HIGNFY' ought be resurrected by the BBC; "bring back Ian and Paul..tr-la-la!" I like people with a long political memory anyway. I want Ian to remind people that Nu Labour swindlers who crop up on the programme have not be rehabilitated because they are on HIGNFY. Just like so many people seemed to forget that the resurfaced Oliver Letwin was a Thatcherite adjutant. To fall back on the classic DS retort: if the programme no longer pleases you, switch over. |
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The thing is, they are HIGNFY and doing some sort of typical 'revamp', which is too often the methodology nowadays, is equally moronic.
The fact of the matter is that the episodes are hit-and-miss, but that's normal and especially so for a programme as long-running as this. Changing people out is just an exercise in keeping the name and creating a similar programme with other people. Victoria Coren is not politically witty enough to carry it. Anyway, within ten years there'd be a cohort of Digital Spy people crying about how 'classic HIGNFY' ought be resurrected by the BBC; "bring back Ian and Paul..tr-la-la!" I like people with a long political memory anyway. I want Ian to remind people that Nu Labour swindlers who crop up on the programme have not be rehabilitated because they are on HIGNFY. Just like so many people seemed to forget that the resurfaced Oliver Letwin was a Thatcherite adjutant. To fall back on the classic DS retort: if the programme no longer pleases you, switch over. That said, like most BBC shows, HIGNFY seems to have an increasingly left wing agenda these days, where a disproportionate number of jokes are aimed at UKIP/The Tories/Leave voters/Donald Trump, etc. A topical news quiz doesn't necessarily have to be about politics , there are plenty of quirkier news stories that are not about politics that would be far more amusing to focus on. |
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Ian and Paul are way, way, way past their sell by date on this show. They both refuse to do the dignified thing and step down (as Stephen Fry did on QI), so the BBC should ship them out.
I'd be politically correct and replace them with women, or one woman and a bloke..... Hislop in particular is a bit of a bore on the show. And whenever there is an ex-Labour politician from th eBlair years, Hislop hijacks the show and turns it into Have I got News From Fifteen Years Ago For You....It's boring Hislop. It's boring BBC. I would swap Hislop with Victoria Coren, even though I hate her as she is the personification of nepotism at the BBC. I'd swap Merton with that Scottish comedian whose name escapes me, but he has a laid back kind of humour. Maybe those replacements might get me trolled into non existence, but I think there can be few people who think the merton and Hislop should get another 20 or 30 years. Good show, bad panelists. Hislop is the very soul of this show. He rarely gives a poor performance. Probably the best satirist in the UK. You might be tired of him but that doesn't mean he has to go. Merton sometimes seems bored but never for long. He has a habit of striking a facial expression if he can't think of a witty respone to something and sometimes that means he looks bored. Other times his guest is slow or unfunny and he has nothing to feed off. He was good in this show. Victoria Coren has been rather mixed as a guest on HIGNFY, sometimes good sometime awful. She'd be a risk as a permanent panelist. She isn't really a satirist and the show needs that skill. Anyway she's got her own quiz show which suits her better. Why is VC the personification of nepotism? What about Giles C? Both Dimbleby's? Zoe Ball? Fearne Cotton? Sure, a lot of people might have got a start at the BBC because of family connections, but they all only stayed long term because they are actually good at it. VC is very different in style to her dad. She certainly didn't follow in his footsteps. ====================================================== Clegg was an excellent host and overall it was a good series opener. I can't see why some people thought it was dull. |
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Please can anyone be banned who says that Ian and/or Paul are phoning/dialling in their performances?
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Keep Hislop but replace Merton with Charlie Brooker?
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Keep Hislop but replace Merton with Charlie Brooker?
Also, Paul is actually older than Ian for anyone wondering. |
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Extended version is good. Clegg's a very creditable host and I can easily see him being asked back.
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This is the only time I'd praise Nick Cleg, but he did well. Now i'd really like to see Ed Milliband give it a go! Or even better, David Cameron.
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That said, like most BBC shows, HIGNFY seems to have an increasingly left wing agenda these days, where a disproportionate number of jokes are aimed at UKIP/The Tories/Leave voters/Donald Trump, etc. A topical news quiz doesn't necessarily have to be about politics , there are plenty of quirkier news stories that are not about politics that would be far more amusing to focus on.
I suspect many of those who think it's not as good at is used to be are natural Tory supporters, who thought it was great when they were giving Labour a kicking week after week. As for Trump, there is no real way to attempt 'balance'. His own supporters within his own party are distancing themselves from him, and who wants to be the person giving the "It's OK to claim you sexually assault women" perspective? |
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I agree. There's something reassuring about Ian and Paul on HIGNFY, they're not just comedians, they're interesting people with other talents like writing and presenting who bring a depth and maturity to a panel show that you just don't get on other topical news quizzes like Mock The Week and 8 Our of 10 Cats where the panellists seem to be generic lefty-student comics.
That said, like most BBC shows, HIGNFY seems to have an increasingly left wing agenda these days, where a disproportionate number of jokes are aimed at UKIP/The Tories/Leave voters/Donald Trump, etc. A topical news quiz doesn't necessarily have to be about politics , there are plenty of quirkier news stories that are not about politics that would be far more amusing to focus on. |
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I think the problem is the so-called comedians that they have as guests. They tend to be classic Champagne Socialists, very wealthy probably with interesting tax arrangements to keep their wealth but much of their script seems to be mocking anyone not on the Left.
Calling them all champagne socialists is utterly ridiculous. What are people supposed to do if they are left leaning but fairly well off? I doubt many of the comedians can afford to live a champagne lifestyle, or even want to. Except Alexander Armstrong and Miles Jupp naturally. ![]() Why do people on the right think only the less well off can support left wing ideals? Anyone else is called a champagne socialist. And the less well off are labelled as being motivated by jealousy. |
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I thought Clegg did a decent job & he even poked fun at himself.
Usually, a lot of them are really awkward (Boris), or get down right pissed off when Hislop/Merton make fun of them (A. Campbell). But he seemed right at home and took himself for a laugh. I think he gets that he's not really that liked anymore and takes it for granted. |
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