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Old 15-10-2016, 21:16
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Well I still watch now and again, still raise the odd smile, but if ever a format was going through the motions its this. Hislop and Merton have been there so long I would imagine they have to be surgically removed from it at the end of each series. All the zest, exuberance and bite has long since been replaced by Horlicks and a seemingly endless list of smug comedians. Not appointment viewing anymore imo.
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Old 15-10-2016, 21:45
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If a new fresher format came along, it'd be immediately dismissed as being not as good as HIGNFY and probably wouldn't last more than one series, so this tired version of HIGNFY with phoned in performances is as good as we will get.
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Old 15-10-2016, 22:13
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If a new fresher format came along, it'd be immediately dismissed as being not as good as HIGNFY and probably wouldn't last more than one series, so this tired version of HIGNFY with phoned in performances is as good as we will get.
If we follow your logic then nothing new would get made.
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Old 15-10-2016, 23:52
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Probably not, but thanks anyway! Maybe it would mean more to people in the US.
Though American in origin it crept into British usage quite a while ago. It's used to death on this forum- it crops up constantly

Probably the best known UK reference would be when Ralf Little left Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps

In the first episode after he left they killed his character off off camera literally jumping a shark, which then ate him. The episode called When Jonny met Sharky.

A nod to the audience that they knew they were pushing it too far
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Old 16-10-2016, 08:51
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Though American in origin it crept into British usage quite a while ago. It's used to death on this forum- it crops up constantly

Probably the best known UK reference would be when Ralf Little left Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps

In the first episode after he left they killed his character off off camera literally jumping a shark, which then ate him. The episode called When Jonny met Sharky.

A nod to the audience that they knew they were pushing it too far
just the 2,600 results then
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Old 16-10-2016, 09:13
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Though American in origin it crept into British usage quite a while ago. It's used to death on this forum- it crops up constantly
Don't think I've ever seen it, but then I don't visit this forum that often.
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Old 16-10-2016, 15:32
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Humor is weird, i've heard sexist, ageist and homophobic stuff on this show but if you can wrap it up as a joke you can get away with it.
HIGNFY is satire and that covers every spectrum. Everything is considered fair game. It's what people like to laugh about because normal people have long been peed off at being told what they can or cannot laugh at.
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Old 16-10-2016, 16:09
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HIGNFY is satire and that covers every spectrum. Everything is considered fair game. It's what people like to laugh about because normal people have long been peed off at being told what they can or cannot laugh at.
By "normal", do you mean sexist, racist or homophobic people?
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Old 16-10-2016, 16:29
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Probably not but his current tour has a lot of sold out venues and he's doing a week in London so obviously has fans
I thought he was very enjoyable on last weeks 'The Unbelievable Truth'
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Old 16-10-2016, 19:18
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Sigh. Can we just put a ban on the same people making the same observations constantly?

It's always the same:

Paul and/or Ian aren't funny anymore.
Female host is rubbish
Female comedian is rubbish
Any female guest at all is rubbish
Most comedians are rubbish
It's gone on too long now
They're making fun of the people I vote for, they're biased!
They should never have got rid of Angus etc etc.


Get over it. It's been going 25 years and rates incredibly well still. The BBC won't get rid of it because a) it fills their PSB remit, b) because of the revolving guest host it's quite cheap to make, c) a revolving guest means it feels fresh each week and d) the majority of people still find it funny.

Accept you are in the minority.
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Old 16-10-2016, 21:59
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By "normal", do you mean sexist, racist or homophobic people?
No mention of 'racism' in the post i replied to so i can see you've just stuck that in for a spot of mischief making. The three subjects the poster mentioned is imo, open to satirical comment or humour such as Ruth Davidsons response, "are you absolutely sure you want two short-haired, flat shoes, shovel-faced lesbians" comment as an example.

There will always be a few people who have zero sense of humour and i really feel quite sorry for them, but dictating their moralistic attitudes to others has become extremely boring and tiresome now.
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Old 17-10-2016, 00:07
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Sigh. Can we just put a ban on the same people making the same observations constantly?

It's always the same:

Paul and/or Ian aren't funny anymore.
Female host is rubbish
Female comedian is rubbish
Any female guest at all is rubbish
Most comedians are rubbish
It's gone on too long now
They're making fun of the people I vote for, they're biased!
They should never have got rid of Angus etc etc.


Get over it. It's been going 25 years and rates incredibly well still. The BBC won't get rid of it because a) it fills their PSB remit, b) because of the revolving guest host it's quite cheap to make, c) a revolving guest means it feels fresh each week and d) the majority of people still find it funny.

Accept you are in the minority.
So you want to ban free speech, Why? And isn't your counter argument also overly repeated ad nauseam too?

Ian Hislop especially needs to go. He's just too bitter and twisted. 25 odd years of moaning and whining has corroded his soul.

When John Prescott hit back at Hislop when Hislop dragged up some affair that happened 10-20 years ago (yawn, yawn), twitter lit up with cheers supporting Prescott for having a go back. And Hislop soon shut up too.

People are bored with Hislop, but he has a Jeremy Corbyn-esque militant supporter group that sycophantically support him online, which makes him seem more popular than he is.

The programme is good with him in it...but the show needs a makeover to make it better.

I remember that people said QI wouldn't be able to continue without Stephen Fry....Then he left (he did the dignified thing, after 13 years), and as soon as they announced Sandi Toksvig was taking over, it was like...'Stephen who?'
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Old 17-10-2016, 00:18
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How do you figure that one then? She was well into her thirties with nearly 20 years of experience as a journalist, columnist, performer, and playwright, before she was given any kind of look in with the Beeb. Funny kind of nepotism even if I could think of anyone in her family that had anything like sufficient sway to guarantee anything.
She may be a genius, but the facts remain. Mummy and Daddy made it all happen for her. She doesn't even deny it. What she does say is that she made the most of the opportunities. But mummy and daddy made it happen. The Coren family are all over the BBC, and from there, they spread outwards.

The BBC have always supported the children of famous parents/uncles/aunts. It might not be done in a sinister, conspiratorial way, but its part of the DNA at the BBC.
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Old 17-10-2016, 01:00
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It was very funny on Friday.
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Old 17-10-2016, 02:08
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Ian Hislop especially needs to go. He's just too bitter and twisted. 25 odd years of moaning and whining has corroded his soul.

People are bored with Hislop, but he has a Jeremy Corbyn-esque militant supporter group that sycophantically support him online, which makes him seem more popular than he is.

The programme is good with him in it...
Is your name Boris?
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Old 17-10-2016, 08:33
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She may be a genius, but the facts remain. Mummy and Daddy made it all happen for her. She doesn't even deny it. What she does say is that she made the most of the opportunities. But mummy and daddy made it happen. The Coren family are all over the BBC, and from there, they spread outwards.

The BBC have always supported the children of famous parents/uncles/aunts. It might not be done in a sinister, conspiratorial way, but its part of the DNA at the BBC.
There is absolutely no basis for thinking that the BBC supports people simply because of their relatives.
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Old 17-10-2016, 09:00
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No mention of 'racism' in the post i replied to so i can see you've just stuck that in for a spot of mischief making. The three subjects the poster mentioned is imo, open to satirical comment or humour such as Ruth Davidsons response, "are you absolutely sure you want two short-haired, flat shoes, shovel-faced lesbians" comment as an example.

There will always be a few people who have zero sense of humour and i really feel quite sorry for them, but dictating their moralistic attitudes to others has become extremely boring and tiresome now.
Ruth Davidson got away with that because she is a lesbian herself and so can hardly be called homophobic. I enjoyed her response, but otherwise I don't agree that jokes based on homophobia are acceptable, just as ones based on racism aren't. I have no problem with most of the humour on HIGNFY because it doesn't go over those boundaries, so I don't think I'm being overly moralistic here.
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Old 17-10-2016, 09:24
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So you want to ban free speech, Why? And isn't your counter argument also overly repeated ad nauseam too?

Ian Hislop especially needs to go. He's just too bitter and twisted. 25 odd years of moaning and whining has corroded his soul.

When John Prescott hit back at Hislop when Hislop dragged up some affair that happened 10-20 years ago (yawn, yawn), twitter lit up with cheers supporting Prescott for having a go back. And Hislop soon shut up too.

People are bored with Hislop, but he has a Jeremy Corbyn-esque militant supporter group that sycophantically support him online, which makes him seem more popular than he is.

The programme is good with him in it...but the show needs a makeover to make it better.

I remember that people said QI wouldn't be able to continue without Stephen Fry....Then he left (he did the dignified thing, after 13 years), and as soon as they announced Sandi Toksvig was taking over, it was like...'Stephen who?'
I don't want to ban free speech, but surely you realise repeating the same argument over and over, week in week out, is ridiculous?

People are bored with Hislop? Since when? Everyone I see talking about HIGNFY seems to like him. As for the Prescott thing. Well yes, he was bringing up the past, but Prescott had only been on once before and since he was out to pimp Ed Miliband, Ian rightly brought up the facts - e.g. why should they listen to a Blairite etc?

As for Stephen Fry, he had to leave because he had been offered a role on American TV on a Sitcom (basically the holy grail) and couldn't make the schedule for QI work. Nobody has seen a Sandi Toksvig episode yet, soit's impossible to say if she's a good replacement.
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Old 17-10-2016, 09:45
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Am I the only one who finds Henning Wehn not at all funny?
I have seen Henning Wehn live twice with different shows in the last year. The first time, I found him very funny - there were some real characters in the audience whom he was able to bounce off. The second time I was very disappointed - he seemed very short of material & the 'only funny' German stereotype jokes got a bit tiresome. Also part of his act involved reading out his script from Radio 4's Unbelievable Truth about North Korea.
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Old 17-10-2016, 09:57
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I'd love to hear Henning speaking in German, just to see if he has that incredibly peculiar accent when speaking in his native language.
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Old 17-10-2016, 12:04
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I'd love to hear Henning speaking in German, just to see if he has that incredibly peculiar accent when speaking in his native language.
On "Live from the Apollo" he engaged with another German guy in the audience for about a minute. It might be on catch-up or YouTube.
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Old 17-10-2016, 13:52
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On "Live from the Apollo" he engaged with another German guy in the audience for about a minute. It might be on catch-up or YouTube.
He did that both times I saw him live & sounded like any other 'German'
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Old 17-10-2016, 13:58
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Sigh. Can we just put a ban on the same people making the same observations constantly?

It's always the same:

Paul and/or Ian aren't funny anymore.
Female host is rubbish
Female comedian is rubbish
Any female guest at all is rubbish
Most comedians are rubbish
It's gone on too long now
They're making fun of the people I vote for, they're biased!
They should never have got rid of Angus etc etc.


Get over it. It's been going 25 years and rates incredibly well still. The BBC won't get rid of it because a) it fills their PSB remit, b) because of the revolving guest host it's quite cheap to make, c) a revolving guest means it feels fresh each week and d) the majority of people still find it funny.

Accept you are in the minority.
Totally agree. Along with the endless, endless 'Paul clearly isn't bothering anymore'
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:30
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She may be a genius, but the facts remain. Mummy and Daddy made it all happen for her.
As I understand it, Victoria Coren gets most of her income from playing poker, which is something her parents didn't really approve of. As for her BBC work, there are people with higher profiles and less talent.
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Old 28-10-2016, 18:17
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I wasn't here last week and there were no comments. Was it that bad?

On tonight's show:

David Mitchel hosts with Rose Matafeo on Ian's team and Chris Bryant MP on Paul's.

David Mitchell's 13th appearance, last one series 50.
Rose Matafeo's 1st appearance.
Chris Bryant's 1st appearance.

Enjoy the show
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