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Old 08-10-2016, 02:26
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Hi,

I am interested in buying a UHD 4K TV, which is between 55 and 65 inches. I need 4 HMDI connections. The brands I am looking at are Sony, LG, Panasonic and maybe Samsung and a 2016 model.

I have seen a lot online about HiSense, which is supposed to be a top Chinese brand.

Would like 10-bit colour and HDR if it's worthwhile.

Great picture quality with little lag, which is also good for moves and gaming.

OLED or LED, which is better?

Maximum budget is £1400

Any advice would be appreciated, please.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 08-10-2016, 10:31
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Hisense also have a ULED tv, John Lewis have the 55 inch ULED, 10bit with HDR for £799 with 5 year guarantee. Picture is great on mine. Your budget stretches to the 65 inch with same spec with a couple of £100 change.
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Old 08-10-2016, 11:33
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Hi

The Sony xd93 is a very nice looking TV that might meet most of your requirements but unfortunately it is a little over your budget but the TV has some very good reviews.
Quite a few retailers are including a soundbar with the television and if you buy it through topcashback from Currys they are doing a tempting cash back offer on TV's over £1000.
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Old 09-10-2016, 01:58
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Make sure that it has the following:

Ultra HD Premium logo

HDR.
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Old 10-10-2016, 09:07
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In my view, OLED is better than LCD because of the true blacks you get with OLED versus dark gray blacks of LCD. YMMV.

Unfortunately OLED TVs are currently considerably more expensive than equivalent LCD TVs. In your situation, I would wait until OLED TVs become more affordable.

However, if you must buy now, I'll second Jedi_Knight's opinion: Any TV with the Ultra HD Premium badge/logo should give good results.

Some of the TVs in Sony's current range actually do meet the UHD Premium standard, but for some reason they are not choosing to market them with that badge.
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Old 10-10-2016, 16:25
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Some of the TVs in Sony's current range actually do meet the UHD Premium standard, but for some reason they are not choosing to market them with that badge.
Could that be because the specifications for UHD have yet to be finalised?
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Old 10-10-2016, 17:39
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Could that be because the specifications for UHD have yet to be finalised?
I don't believe so. AFAIK they are finalised with two parallel brightness ranges, one for OLED displays and one for LCD (LED backlit) displays.

I speculate that it ties in with rumours that Sony will be launching OLED TVs "soon". This would be in an effort to retain their reputation for the best PQ by having a distinct marketing position that will separate them from the others. They'll come up with their own branding "spec" that (they think) will separate them from the others. I can't think of another reason for not using UHD Premium branding. It doesn't seem to make sense otherwise.

OTOH, it could be as simple as wanting to retain their current branding distinctiveness.

Just speculation after all.
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Old 10-10-2016, 18:22
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I don't believe so. AFAIK they are finalised with two parallel brightness ranges, one for OLED displays and one for LCD (LED backlit) displays.

I speculate that it ties in with rumours that Sony will be launching OLED TVs "soon". This would be in an effort to retain their reputation for the best PQ by having a distinct marketing position that will separate them from the others. They'll come up with their own branding "spec" that (they think) will separate them from the others. I can't think of another reason for not using UHD Premium branding. It doesn't seem to make sense otherwise.

OTOH, it could be as simple as wanting to retain their current branding distinctiveness.

Just speculation after all.
I personally think it is because only one or two of the current models meet the spec.
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Old 11-10-2016, 00:29
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The only Ultra HD Premium certified TV's in the OP's price range are the following:

Samsung UE55KS7000
This an edge-lit TV that will struggle with some darker HDR material - no matter how many NITS the panel is capable of.

Panasonic TX-58DX902B
This is a FALD TV that should have far less issues with HDR material and an absolute bargain at present.

Really I don't think certification is all that important though as you can bet that in the next few months we are going to be looking at HFR TV's - right now the move to UHD is so volatile that your shiny new TV may have a very short shelf life, basically it is virtually impossible to future proof for more than 12 months.
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Old 16-10-2016, 07:01
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The only Ultra HD Premium certified TV's in the OP's price range are the following:

Samsung UE55KS7000
This an edge-lit TV that will struggle with some darker HDR material - no matter how many NITS the panel is capable of.

Panasonic TX-58DX902B
This is a FALD TV that should have far less issues with HDR material and an absolute bargain at present.

Really I don't think certification is all that important though as you can bet that in the next few months we are going to be looking at HFR TV's - right now the move to UHD is so volatile that your shiny new TV may have a very short shelf life, basically it is virtually impossible to future proof for more than 12 months.
I have the Samsung and it's brilliant.
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Old 26-10-2016, 00:21
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In my view, OLED is better than LCD because of the true blacks you get with OLED versus dark gray blacks of LCD. YMMV.

Unfortunately OLED TVs are currently considerably more expensive than equivalent LCD TVs. In your situation, I would wait until OLED TVs become more affordable.

However, if you must buy now, I'll second Jedi_Knight's opinion: Any TV with the Ultra HD Premium badge/logo should give good results.

Some of the TVs in Sony's current range actually do meet the UHD Premium standard, but for some reason they are not choosing to market them with that badge.
That be brilliant news if that dose happen I love Sony TVs and ever time go in John Lewis in Southampton across the south coast or also love the oled TVs I get a supbe Sony tv from 2013 I got it in winter 2014 the wkdl 653 32 when I go 4K want to get
Sony one for my viewing and hopefully an oled tv
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Old 26-10-2016, 11:46
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Is the Sony Sony Bravia 55XD8005 a good Tv?
It's £999 with a free soundbar from John Lewis
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Old 26-10-2016, 22:17
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But is there any point in buying 4K TV's when programmes/films are not filmed in 4k? or are they now?
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Old 27-10-2016, 09:18
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But is there any point in buying 4K TV's when programmes/films are not filmed in 4k? or are they now?
See IMDb database for information as to which films are made in 4K.
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Old 27-10-2016, 13:39
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See IMDb database for information as to which films are made in 4K.
My brother bought a 4K LG TV and I'm not impressed with the picture quality at all. It could be dimminished because the room he has it in is quite small and the sofa's are quite close to the TV but I get the impression that even if it was further apart, the picture quality wouldn't be that good or sharp. When I put this to a Curry's worker once when talking about the best value for money TV's to buy, he told me that most TV programmes and films are not made/filmed in 4K so its not worth it buying the TV's for that and normal HD is the better option.

I have to say my Samsung HD Smart TV has the much better picture quality and that's not me going for a one upman ship thing, it really is much clearer/sharper than the 4K one my brother has. OP, consider buying a HD Smart TV. If you have broadband, they are quite useful to have/watch catch up TV from the terrestrial channels and you can watch things like Youtube on the TV's too.

p.s If you go for a HD TV rather than 4K, then go for the Full HD ones not the ones that say HD Ready as they do have lower resolution. I don't know how many people get "caught out" or settle for the HD Ready Ones but if people want good picture quality on a value for money basis, then I say the Full HD Smart TV ones are the best to go for generally.
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Old 27-10-2016, 15:58
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True about going for full HD. I don't know why but finding full Hd in a 32inch TV is becoming much harder. You have to go in the plus £300 bracket to find them in a good name.
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Old 27-10-2016, 19:36
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I passed a branch of Argos in Manchester's Arndale centre today, in it was a large screen saying "4K TVs four times as many pixels as HD, have a bigger screen or sit much closer." No mention of needing a 4K source.
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Old 27-10-2016, 22:19
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I passed a branch of Argos in Manchester's Arndale centre today, in it was a large screen saying "4K TVs four times as many pixels as HD, have a bigger screen or sit much closer." No mention of needing a 4K source.
Like I posted earlier, my brother's LG 4 K Tv which is pretty massive in size too, - its picture quality is not as good nor as sharp as my Samsung Smart Full HD TV. I've tried adjusting it but the picture comes across as too light, too "holey" which from what you posted could explain why. It could be that the room they have it in is just too small and that they will only get its full picture quality if the TV is in a bigger room, further away from the viewer and where they are sitting but having said that, my place is quite small too and my Full HD Tv is is still better picture wise.

Here's a link from a site that previously dissed 4k TV's but then changed their mind a little bit I think, haven't fully read this link but posters might want to check it out. There's more of them about too under the search of "Are 4K TV's worth it" or words to that effect. https://www.cnet.com/uk/news/4k-tvs-...tupid-anymore/
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Old 27-10-2016, 22:26
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True about going for full HD. I don't know why but finding full Hd in a 32inch TV is becoming much harder. You have to go in the plus £300 bracket to find them in a good name.
This TV is very similar to the one I have and its going at just under £230. I think mine has 3 HDMI points rather than 2.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-...31886-pdt.html
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Old 27-10-2016, 23:24
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Like I posted earlier, my brother's LG 4 K Tv which is pretty massive in size too, - its picture quality is not as good nor as sharp as my Samsung Smart Full HD TV. I've tried adjusting it but the picture comes across as too light, too "holey" which from what you posted could explain why. It could be that the room they have it in is just too small and that they will only get its full picture quality if the TV is in a bigger room, further away from the viewer and where they are sitting but having said that, my place is quite small too and my Full HD Tv is is still better picture wise.

Here's a link from a site that previously dissed 4k TV's but then changed their mind a little bit I think, haven't fully read this link but posters might want to check it out. There's more of them about too under the search of "Are 4K TV's worth it" or words to that effect. https://www.cnet.com/uk/news/4k-tvs-...tupid-anymore/
what platforms and TV channel or what equipment did he have on ? That can make huge difference, Sony, LG . Samsung and Panasonic are some are some best TVs whether full hd / uhd or 4K I have seen although I wood go Sony ever time as my first choice also love the LG oiled TVs .as my second choice if I were buying but I am not .

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Old 27-10-2016, 23:32
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what platforms and TV channel or what equipment did he have on ? That can make huge difference, Sony, LG . Samsung and Panasonic are some are some best TVs whether full hd / uhd or 4K although I wood go Sony ever time as my first choice also love the LG oiled TVs in the shops as for Phillips Other makes I wouldn't give you think you for other than the four makes I listed
He has a SKY box, not sure if its Sky HD or an older one and if it is an older box, that could explain why the picture is poor. The channel's I have seen vary from BBC News to BBC 1, ITV 3, Channel 4, he likes this car mechanic speicalist progragramme too but not sure what channel thats on. I'll try and find out what kind of sky box he has the next time I'm round his place.
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Old 27-10-2016, 23:41
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He has a SKY box, not sure if its Sky HD or an older one and if it is an older box, that could explain why the picture is poor. The channel's I have seen vary from BBC News to BBC 1, ITV 3, Channel 4, he likes this car mechanic speicalist progragramme too but not sure what channel thats on. I'll try and find out what kind of sky box he has the next time I'm round his place.
Fair enough. I too am on sky I woo say the LG is not your cup of ter it's the same for me when I see a phillies Toshibe tv s in the shops
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Old 28-10-2016, 07:25
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We have a Ultra HD 4K TV with HDR. We bought it last year. Its a Samsung UE40KU6020
http://www.richersounds.com/product/...ams-ue40ku6020. If we bought one of these to fit into the Headphone port https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...f_rd_i=desktop would we be able to use the Bluetooth speaker I have and project sound?.
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Old 28-10-2016, 13:36
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We have a Ultra HD 4K TV with HDR. We bought it last year. Its a Samsung UE40KU6020
http://www.richersounds.com/product/...ams-ue40ku6020. If we bought one of these to fit into the Headphone port https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...f_rd_i=desktop would we be able to use the Bluetooth speaker I have and project sound?.
As long as your bluetooth speaker supports Bluetooth 4.1 Technology with A2DP (the same standard as the unit) it should work. That's exactly what it's for.
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Old 28-10-2016, 17:33
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So which full HD not 4K tv so you recommend?
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