He could have gone after Linda or Whitney to give them something they'd left behind eg. a phone. So no he didn't have to go on the hen night for the moment between he and Pam to exist.

Not that I wish to indulge your nitpicking. You seem determined to ignore the fact Whitney and Johnny have a friendship which originated under the previous actor.

We haven't seen much their friendship in recent months but then we haven't seen Johnny do much of anything since his return. That doesn't negate the fact they've always been friends. It's easy to imagine that friendship has continued. We don't see characters go to the loo but we know they do it.

My comment about gossip was a generalisation. His presence at the party has absolutely nothing to do with their friendship.

Are you sure, because this being soapland if we don't see it happen on scene then surely it doesn't happen?

'Cause these are the types of gay stereotypes EE is stuck in. Every other soap is so far ahead of them it's sad.

Hang on. Johnny was there because he is Whitney's mate and soon to be brother in law. There wasn't anything stereotypical about him being there. Whitney wanted him there as her friend. The only thing that is sad are the people making something out of nothing.

And for the record Hollyoaks and Corrie often have their gay characters attending hen nights. Can't speak for Emmerdale as I don't watch it.

Or maybe he was there for no other reason than the fact he is Whitney's friend?

Or now that we have established he had to be there for that scene with Pam and Les.

The scene with Pam and Les was as Pam put it. To show life still goes on.

I'm curious, what exactly is/was your problem with Johnny being there. You haven't actually given a reason.

You are the only one saying this. We haven't 'established' anything.

Thank you. Some people are so desperate to call out homophobia that they don't realise they're imposing very narrow views on what is and isn't allowed.

That's because I never said I had a problem with it, I just wondered why he was there that's all.

But no doubt you will have already decided I have a problem with it and what that is so I suspect your question was hypothetical anyway.

This thread seems to be going round in circles perhaps. Maybe the question that should have been asked, 'Did you find the Pam & Johnny scene contrived?' 'Or is it a stereotype for a gay man to attend a hen party?'

No to both from me.

I think you must have had a problem with it. You said in the opening post why was he at an all female event. Instead of just asking 'was Johnny there because he is gay' which is what you really wanted to say but didn't.

My bad I should have used 'I' instead of 'we', oh well never mind.

See there you go telling others what they think.

By the way, you are wrong, but don't let that stop you.

So why did you bother to ask me?

It's very common for gay men to be at their female friends hen nights.

I'm not telling others what to think but its clear you had some sort of issue with him being there from the wording of your opening post.

It took several posts before you mentioned the Pam scene. Not that I'm trying to say you are backtracking but you still haven't actually said what the point is you are trying to make.

I think Ted is improving/growing in confidence in the role and is believable as Johnny. It's been nice to see Johnny interacting with more characters in recent episodes.

I'm in disbelief at this thread to be honest. It's like Whitney and Johnny's whole friendship in 2014 is being brushed aside so people can make some sort of negative point about the show.

Johnny has become a poor stereotype. Johnny's scenes are always with females and always eyeing men up. Pretty much like how Christian was prior to his pairing with Syed. Because apparently that is all what gay men do apparently in the eyes of some writers. The writing for Johnny was poor when Sam Strike played him but it has become worse with Robot Ted now in the role. He's is just a Judy Garland film away from not being too different to Sean from corrie.

As I have answered your question already I will refer you to that earlier answer, I know it's not the answer you had already made your mind up about, but since it is the only reason you will have to make do with it so like it or lump it.

Because he's a gay character.

So's Ben who wasn't there.

Yeah how mean of them not to invite Ben would have been chance for him and Johnny to hook up. .

This thread is giving me a headache. But it's like a train wreck, I can't look away

Whitney wouldn't have invited Ben anyway as it was the same day as his partner's murderers hearing so depending on that outcome he wouldn't have been in the mood for a hen night