I still don't know what it is...

Brilliant...

You are one of the calmest, most level-headed users I have come across on this forum.

I really wish that was true. (I'm a very bad Scorpio. I got it bad!! I have to keep it in check or I'll run beserk!)

But thank you for saying so Nina

Sidebar of Shame in the Daily Mail. It contains all the "showbiz" stories. It's sadly addictive.

I think it's the 'side bar of shame' basically the sidebar on the daily mail website. Consists entirely of sexist drivel about someone 'pouring her curves' into an outfit. It's the 'fun' side to the anti-immigration xenophobic racism and scare stories about how everything causes cancer gloom fest.

The section of Daily Mail showbiz site with all the thumbnail photos and headlines - named the Sidebar of Shame by the wonderful Clare Balding

Really? I didn't know that. The wondrous Clare rises even further in my estimation. She really deserves her Tom.

I think you will find it's pouring her curves into a VERY figure hugging dress.

See also: tresses (hair), messy up do (hair in a scrunchy pony tail), make up free (more make up than a Saturday night on Strictly), slick of lipstick (has remembered to put some on), frolicking in the surf (having a paddle for the tame photographers).

^^^ This.

Don't forget the notorious "all grown up" (little girl has reached puberty and we've got a photo of her in her swimsuit).

Yep - that's a shudder making one, that one.

One of the worst was Bob Geldof's daughter hugging Peaches' husband in the sea. The insinuation was just too grotesque.

Leaving quite a few 'facts' out of this post to try to make your point.

As far as I am aware, I am the ONLY person on the GG thread to have said 'I want Gio out of the competition early'

Which you've taken out of context - this was my post;


If you two are selfish, then, I'm an utter cow as for my own personal viewing pleasure, I'd rather they went out asap

I want Gio to do well and I quite like Laura but I cannot stand him dancing with anyone else


Ooh, I don't really mean that.. I do hope Gio does well. He's an amazing dancer! I'm an emotional mess today lol


And the reason we 'struggle' to see people supporting him that didn't before is because THAT is a total 180. Some of his new supporters are those which we've spent over a year arguing with - with them continuously slagging him (and Georgia) off. To the point of complaining where he stood in a photo and not being good enough for Strictly.

And it wasn't a gradual change of opinion. Most claimed to suddenly like him after the launch show - the launch show in which he had about 3 minutes of screen time..

Anyway, I don't really care. People can like whoever they want for whatever reason they want. Just thought I'd answer your post.


Georgia can support whoever she wants. She is very close with Janette and Daisy so maybe that's why she was supporting them.

Besides, I wouldn't be supporting my ex. Sooner hit him with a car than root for him


I wouldn't worry about that lol. Kinda used to it.

This isn't just Strictly that it happens in (rather disturbing), I watch another show where fans of a specific relationship tweet at this actor's wife and call her names, insinuate things about her, insult her child - all because these two actors who play a fictional pairing aren't together in real life.

Yes these are adults again, you've got to feel embarrassed for them. I'd maybe understand thirteen year olds or so because I know I was silly at that age.

But this is just stupidity at it's finest, it happens in every fandom whether we like it or not. Does it make it okay? Absolutely not but some people lack a distinct maturity...despite their age and forget this is just a dancing "competition".

Can't we all just argue about who's a ringah and who isn't?

As has always been the case a few things Georgia has done have been picked up on and essentially what people are saying is that because Georgia has tweeted ‘gutted’ with a heartbroken emoji and that ‘fairytales aren’t real’ that she has therefore completely undermined Laura and Giovanni on Strictly. So essentially she should under no circumstances show any emotion about her recent break up. Never mind about the fact that she tweeted them both on the night of the launch show wished them both good luck, said that Laura was a beautiful person, told people not to believe the rubbish in the tabloids, said Laura had her full support - apparently this seemingly kind act was part of her manipulative plan to undermine them. Never mind that before almost every show she has tweeted good luck to all the celebs and pros, or that as soon as stories broke out about her unfollowing Laura and there being a row she refollowed her. But no, according to some she has been deliberately manipulating social media in order to undermine their Strictly experience. Huph mentioned earlier a headline in which she was said to be 'throwing major shade' at Laura and Giovanni because she hadn't tweeted them good luck before the show - that seems like really fantastic, positive headlines about Georgia - so that definitely must be part of her manipulative masterplan to ruin Giovanni and Laura's experience on Strictly.

If we could, per chance, return for just one moment to the original topic of this thread and that is unkind messages that Laura has been receiving over social media from what is perceived to be fans of Georgia. I stated initially that this was wholly unnecessary and wholly unacceptable – I can just imagine how it would make Laura feel reading messages like ‘you’re sitting close to Giovanni – so you must be flirting with him, consider other people’s feelings’.

Georgia May Foote has made people aware on here that she does actually take the time to read sections of this forum and that she appreciates what people write on the appreciation thread dedicated to her and Giovanni. Think for a moment what she must think if she comes onto one of these threads on the MF, when she’s accused of attention seeking for saying she likes gravy with chips, seeking publicity because she’s pictured leaving a hotel with the rest of the Strictly celebs, called ‘desperate’ because she’s tweeted someone to say that the thread on here partially dedicated to her ‘makes her smile’ – she could probably almost laugh that sort of thing off, but there’s other things like she was ‘exaggerating her illness’ to get sympathy votes during the semi final, that this split is ‘karma’ for the way in which she treated Sean, and now that she is deliberately setting out to undermine her ex and his current dance partner and spoil their Strictly experience despite the fact she’s said that she has publicly supported them on social media – I don’t know about anyone else, but if I read those comments, and I was accused of those sort of things it would upset me deeply, very deeply. In the same way Laura’s interactions with Giovanni are being analysed and interpreted and subsequently criticised (something which is clearly upsetting her), Georgia finds her interactions over social media being analysed, interpreted and subsequently criticised, which (if she were to read this thread) I’m sure she would find very upsetting. Clearly I understand that criticising someone on a forum is different to sending people tweets over social media, and by no means am I saying that people should feel as if they can’t freely criticise her, but I find it extremely rich that many of those who purport to defend Laura against people who criticise her for the way in which she is interacting, in turn go out of their way to criticise Georgia for the way in which she is interacting.


So let me get this straight, I’m not allowed to defend her because I don’t know her personally, but it’s absolutely perfectly fine for you to go around criticising her for supposedly creating a negative atmosphere around Giovanni and Laura, do you know her personally? Personally I think you should be allowed to criticise and defend people on discussion forums.

I’ve had several questions asking me directly why I choose to stand up for her. If I could ask, for a moment, that you put yourself in my position, somebody who you like / are a ‘fan’ of is being criticised on a thread, do you think I like seeing that? If someone you liked was being accused of deliberately undermining someone’s time on Strictly, would you be happy just to sit there and let person after person come in and add criticism after criticism? People on here frequently criticise Georgia for what she has done – I don’t ask them why they criticise her, I go and offer, when necessary, what I believe to be a reasoned and reasonable argument to defend her against these criticisms. If people are allowed to criticise people on the forum, then why on earth would someone not be able to put up a defence against them?

However, that’s not the only reason why I often seek to defend Georgia on this forum, because as is the case with this thread, it is not just her that comes in for criticism it is her fans – as a fan of Georgia, are we honestly not expected to respond to that? I think that the criticism that her fans get for sending unkind messages to Laura is unquestionably warranted. What, however, does upset me rather more is the way in which those people who have become invested in relationships are talked about on here, over several months I’ve heard so many different things about them – that they’re obsessed, doolally, that they clearly have no life of their own, that they’re frankly pathetic for getting involved in such things. There are people on the GG thread (generally it has to be said of an older demographic) who are genuinely, genuinely very upset at the way things have turned out for Georgia and Giovanni, and this upset has come not just from the fact it has happened but from the sudden nature in which it has happened – how do you think they feel when they read such things about people who have been invested in relationships, how do you honestly think it makes them feel – these people who are upset enough already?

The facts are Laura did not choose Giovanni, she was selected by the producers to dance with him. Not her fault.

Agreed. Laura deserves the right to have a stress-free Strictly experience.

However, this thread is emphatically not about Laura's experience, and everything about taking jabs at Georgia.

Jeez, if I can let the Jay thing go, surely people can do the same for Georgia...

LOL.

Completely agree that Laura should enjoy her experience without being judged and should not be hassled on-line by people - its unfair and I think everyone was in agreement with this point at the beginning of the thread.

Irony is not lost on the fact the 'subject topic' is allegedly about someone being judged and criticised for everything they do!!!!!.

Even although its only a handful of people who are saying things to Laura on-line, every GG fan I know have said its unacceptable - including on this thread. No one has started threads up criticising Laura. However, as expected (as its exactly the same as last year!) the thread has proceeded into criticisisms of Georgia, criticising and blaming her for everything she has done or not done. And anyone who dares stop the flow of judgements and critisisms by offering a reasonable explanation for whatever it is shes being blamed for (no I wouldn't be cheering on my recent ex boyfriend on a weekly basis - and very few people would - she did well to wish them both well and advise everyone NOT to listen to tabloid gossip - and that Laura was a beatutiful person)......it suddenly becomes personal 'and why do you feel the need to defend her?' ...I mean my need to attack her is perfectly reasonable and justified - but your need to defend her seems a bit dodgey

Also Ironic that after 2 or 3 pages of criticisisms and blame directed at Georgia - the question is asked 'why are we talking about Georgia anyway?' .... I think that is a very good point!

I agree with your points here about Laura's Strictly experience, and letting things go. It's what I have been trying to do myself.

The thread started off talking about some fans actions, not about Georgia herself. Unfortunately it turned into a discussion about Georgia's own behaviour on Twitter, because that topic was actually introduced by a Georgia fan in the third post of this thread.

People are bound to want to respond with their own viewpoint.

True, but just bored now.

Will let people get on with their discussions in the thread, sans moi.

Putting on a Leggy Display (wearing a skirt with hemline scandalously above ankles)

Good plan.

That is also why I haven't contributed up to now.

The most illuminating thing in this thread is learning Georgia May Foote has such obsessive fans. Who'd have thought? I barely even remember her.

What I find funny about it is; the people making these comments seem to think we (probably talking more about myself here) aren't aware of these facts. 'You must have absolutely no life of your own and are, frankly, pathetic for being so involved' - yes, thanks dear, I already know that

A discussion is one word for it, another word for it is people, as usual, taking every opportunity to make digs at Georgia. I, introduce two tweets, showing how Georgia herself has interacted with Laura on social media and instead of them being interpreted at face value as a kind and gracious thing to do, they're somehow turned into part of a manipulative plan orchestrated by Georgia to damage Gio and Laura's Strictly experience.

As Humpty has pointed out what this has turned into in a thread where people are expressing their displeasure at the fact Laura has had little things she has been doing commented about on social media, those very same people expressing their displeasure at this are now picking up on all the little things Georgia has been doing and used it to criticise her.

If the same people who call Georgia 'desperate' for sending a kind tweet saying that an appreciation thread 'makes her smile', you can't seriously expect me to think that what is being said with regards to Georgia on this thread aren't being said without a hint of bias.