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Old 09-10-2016, 18:00
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So Sylvie was living in a home, but the experienced carers were struggling to look after her. She was then being cared for by a professional nurse. However she's now being looked after by Shirley and Tina.

Tina can barely look after herself and Shirley doesn't even like Sylvie. Surely she would be better off being put back in care so she can get the treatment she needs?
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Old 09-10-2016, 18:02
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It's rather ridiculous, she would need full care and surely where she living need to be vetted and where are her social workers, she is a vulnerable adult.
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Old 09-10-2016, 18:03
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Certainly not. For what we've seen she needs almost 24 hour care and supervision. Impossible for a busy family to provide.
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Old 09-10-2016, 18:05
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Old 09-10-2016, 18:21
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She deserves so much more. A specialist care home would have activities and willing care round the clock, she would also have company of her own age and plenty of space to move around. It would be different if she was being kept in her own home but she is shifted from pillar to post. It's not as if Tina really wants her...we've seen what a burden she considers her to be. What a way to end your days. 😢
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Old 09-10-2016, 18:25
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She deserves so much more. A specialist care home would have activities and willing care round the clock, she would also have company of her own age and plenty of space to move around. It would be different if she was being kept in her own home but she is shifted from polar to post. It's not as if Tina really wants her...we've seen what a burden she considers her to be. What a way to end your days. 😢
And what exactly is the purpose of having Sylvie as a character anyway? If EE are trying to portray the realities of living with a parent with dementia they are failing dismally. It is extremely unrealistic that such an acute sufferer would be living at home. They ought to have the characters visit her at a care home on a regular basis instead.
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Old 09-10-2016, 18:28
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She deserves so much more. A specialist care home would have activities and willing care round the clock, she would also have company of her own age and plenty of space to move around. It would be different if she was being kept in her own home but she is shifted from polar to post. It's not as if Tina really wants her...we've seen what a burden she considers her to be. What a way to end your days. 😢
IT really is.

A friend of mine has a parent with Alzheimer's, he is still living at home on his own at the moment but the condition is getting worse. He has good days and bad days, although it's got to the stage where he needs more care at home.

In a way I wish they hadn't made Sylvies condition so advanced, they could have shown her gradually decline.
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Old 09-10-2016, 18:37
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Shirley being responsible for anyone is a terrifying thought, let alone someone with dementia
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Old 09-10-2016, 18:40
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Of course she should be in a care home, it would be better for everyone.
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Old 09-10-2016, 18:47
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Shirley being responsible for anyone is a terrifying thought, let alone someone with dementia
Reluctantly force too, especially someone she can't stand, although a elderly abuse storyline similar to what they did with Ashley and Sandy in ED could be a interesting spin, would fit her character exterior.
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Old 09-10-2016, 18:51
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I wonder who was paying for her to be in the care home to begin with ? I assumed it was Babe at first and that was why she blackmailed the Cokers but it wasn't in the end.

I like Sylvia though. I think they are doing well covering this story.
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Old 09-10-2016, 19:04
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I wonder who was paying for her to be in the care home to begin with ? I assumed it was Babe at first and that was why she blackmailed the Cokers but it wasn't in the end.

I like Sylvia though. I think they are doing well covering this story.
The NHS pays for some homes, probably depending on the Drs diagnosis.
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Old 09-10-2016, 19:08
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IT really is.

A friend of mine has a parent with Alzheimer's, he is still living at home on his own at the moment but the condition is getting worse. He has good days and bad days, although it's got to the stage where he needs more care at home.

In a way I wish they hadn't made Sylvies condition so advanced, they could have shown her gradually decline.
They were the wrong family to do this with because hardly any of them know her and visa versa so it's not as if they're trying to keep her with people she knows and in a home and area that's familiar to her. Now that I could understand. Even if it was Patrick I could see the sense of it.

Another of DTC'c unnecessary complications. It would have been enough for us to meet her and get filled in on her history with Shirley. They should have saved this s/l for someone who's family would be devastated and for a character we care about.
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Old 09-10-2016, 19:22
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Well when she first came to light, Babe was singly handed lay looking after her at home and so she now has more people looking after her.

She clearly didn't like the nursing home babe dumped her in and so maybe she is better off not in a home but that being said a care home could probably give her better care than she gets from the carters.

I think we will soon see her back in a home
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Old 09-10-2016, 20:24
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The NHS pays for some homes, probably depending on the Drs diagnosis.
It is the council. My mum is in one and half her pension and half paid by the council.
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Old 10-10-2016, 00:31
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It is the council. My mum is in one and half her pension and half paid by the council.
My Dad was in one for a few years before he died, I don't think he had to pay for any of it, I guess it will vary by borough. All we had to do was give them some petty cash in case he needed some small item. It was an excellent home too.
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Old 10-10-2016, 11:59
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It is indeed calculated by Adult Social Services so the Council and is entirely dependent on the person requiring care income, savings and assets, including joint assets if married. Basically everything that the persons name appears on, including stocks, shares etc is fair game. The only thing they can't touch is the marital home if the spouse is needing to stay living in it. However, if the person be widowed then their home would be expected to be sold to fund their care home, even if adult children were still living there.

As that house was either owned by, or rented by Babe (I assume), Sylvie was separated and Stan didn't seem to won that flat in Canning Town (was it Canning Town?) anyway, I assume she would have had less assets than they can use to fund care as Babe wouldn't be deemed responsible as a sibling.

So, i'd assume that care home was NHS rather than Private, fully paid for by the Council except perhaps for Sylvies state pension contributing.

We went through all this a couple of years ago when my Mother became bed bound and terminal and required the most intensive care package they can provide for anybody remaining at home (which we did have to pay for due to her assets) and we're told what would happen once they dropped below a certain point and if she did have to go into residential care. But sadly she died after only a few weeks so it never got to that stage.

I'd imagine Jane, who has Carers coming in, will have to pay at least a portion of the cost of that as she and Ian are married and fairly well off with the businesses and owning their house.

Re whether somebody with Alzheimers that severe can be cared for at home. Yes, they can as my Godmother was for 5 years, right up until her death. Same with my Grandmother who had Vascular Dementia.

But, both their husbands were retired so able (and perhaps as importantly willing) to devote all their time and attention to looking after their wives and luckily were physically and mentally strong enough themselves to be able to manage ti. They also had family who came to helpe and basically provide the Carer with breaks and rest for a few hours at least 2 or 3 times a week, despite being in full time employment.

That isn't the case here. For whatever the reason, thee love and willingness for the family as a whole to make the necessary sacrifices and work as a team to provide Care just isn't there and without that, it is hopeless, even if. Family members didn't have jobs so they had the time. Even if the love and will was there, it can't be done when the people she is living with work so are out of the house for hours and then tired, requiring rest and sleep when they are there.

So, in answer to the OP, no, she is not getting the right care and when it is a decision that has been made seemingly because Tina (who is a child in a woman's body) just wants the rare times Sylvie is nice for Tina's sake and just wants to dodge the difficult times (though not as much as Mick) plus how Shirley speaks to her (though I understand why Shirley hates her and give her some credit for at least trying to help) it is perilously close to Abuse.
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