Originally Posted by masterquan:
“See a lot of mixed race people not black people”
“See a lot of mixed race people not black people”
Denise Lewis.
Is Strictly voting a little bit racist?
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Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“Or Ramps or Louis, or Natalie Gumedi, or Colin J, or Ricky W amongst others? 😞”
“Or Ramps or Louis, or Natalie Gumedi, or Colin J, or Ricky W amongst others? 😞”
All of whom are mixed race (I think) so just black enough.. Horrible saying but I think the OP has a point
Let me make a prediction for next week.... Ore will be in the dance off.
I have no idea why people on here get so sensitive when these questions are asked. It's not as if racism doesn't exist, just like sexism and homphobia are prevelent, but it seems as though racism is some kind of dirty word and just reading/glancing the word brings a weird anger out in people.... I wonder why....
I have no idea why people on here get so sensitive when these questions are asked. It's not as if racism doesn't exist, just like sexism and homphobia are prevelent, but it seems as though racism is some kind of dirty word and just reading/glancing the word brings a weird anger out in people.... I wonder why....
Originally Posted by BeyonceCastle:
“The fact she had a standing ovation means the panel and audience knew she really should not have been eliminated tonight.”
“The fact she had a standing ovation means the panel and audience knew she really should not have been eliminated tonight.”
But who should have been eliminated then? Everybody had something in their favour, Tameka apparently had less in hers.
Lesley had Anton.
Ed had Balls, no, I mean his routine flattered to deceive but he really got into character, ahem
Anastacia had the survivor/martyr thing.
Greg had lifts
Naga had legs.
Laura had... legs
Daisy had.....legs
(okay, I'm getting a bit bogged down here, please someone stop me before I start raving about Pixie...)
Lol why are people pretending a black dark skin person is perceived the same as a mixed raced person.
Originally Posted by BeyonceCastle:
“I think that's unfair. She was very gracious pre and post DO. Lovely speech. Very dignified.
Did a great DO. Did not ham up Titanic which she could have, just did one gag post-spin.
I liked her and thought she had at least three more weeks in her.
Funnily enough, she has been described as Marmite on here but I remember seeing her on wishlists for years. The fact she had a standing ovation means the panel and audience knew she really should not have been eliminated tonight.”
“I think that's unfair. She was very gracious pre and post DO. Lovely speech. Very dignified.
Did a great DO. Did not ham up Titanic which she could have, just did one gag post-spin.
I liked her and thought she had at least three more weeks in her.
Funnily enough, she has been described as Marmite on here but I remember seeing her on wishlists for years. The fact she had a standing ovation means the panel and audience knew she really should not have been eliminated tonight.”
Who does'nt get a standing ovation ?
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“Well said, duckylucky. Using it the context of an entertainment show without a shred of evidence demeans those who have been genuine victims of racial prejudice.”
“Well said, duckylucky. Using it the context of an entertainment show without a shred of evidence demeans those who have been genuine victims of racial prejudice.”
Absolutely . This kind of rubbish dilutes the real genuine ugliness of the reality
Originally Posted by lucy777:
“All of whom are mixed race (I think) so just black enough.. Horrible saying but I think the OP has a point”
“All of whom are mixed race (I think) so just black enough.. Horrible saying but I think the OP has a point
”
Straw clutching is more like it, 😞
Originally Posted by LazySusan:
“Denise Lewis.”
“Denise Lewis.”
How well did she do? Bottom two regularly without high scores to help?
The big 'R' word comes up every year on this forum. Both weeks there has been one white contestant in the bottom also,
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“Straw clutching is more like it, 😞”
“Straw clutching is more like it, 😞”
Err nope half white ain't the same as black. Truth. Different colour one is a lot closer to white
Haven't we got enough lefties trying to find racism for the sake of it. For me, the wrong celeb left but that wasn't to do with her skin colour, it's because the judges had to leave the wooden bimbo in for longer. Laura is a terrible Latin dancer.
Originally Posted by Jocolah:
“The big 'R' word comes up every year on this forum. Both weeks there has been one white contestant in the bottom also,”
“The big 'R' word comes up every year on this forum. Both weeks there has been one white contestant in the bottom also,”
Agree...
It is the curse of being mid table and people do not vote for you as they think thry are safe.
Same as it's always been.
If it was 'vote for who you think was worst and should go home' you would get a different result from 'Vote for your favourite' when plenty of people might have placed her somewhere between 7th to 10th place (for being fun and entertaining) but how many people will vote for their 7th to 10th choice?
Vote for who should have gone might have put Lesley Joseph and Anastasia in the final.
If it was 'vote for who you think was worst and should go home' you would get a different result from 'Vote for your favourite' when plenty of people might have placed her somewhere between 7th to 10th place (for being fun and entertaining) but how many people will vote for their 7th to 10th choice?
Vote for who should have gone might have put Lesley Joseph and Anastasia in the final.
Originally Posted by NicPlays:
“Let's not forget Alesha or Simon.”
“Let's not forget Alesha or Simon.”
Originally Posted by duckylucky:
“And Alesha won !!
People really need to stop this ridiculous use of the word racism . Keep it for real genuine ugly racism OP”
“And Alesha won !!
People really need to stop this ridiculous use of the word racism . Keep it for real genuine ugly racism OP”
Please read the original post properly, I already acknowledged that Alesha won.
Originally Posted by red_amber:
“Let me make a prediction for next week.... Ore will be in the dance off.
I have no idea why people on here get so sensitive when these questions are asked. It's not as if racism doesn't exist, just like sexism and homphobia are prevelent, but it seems as though racism is some kind of dirty word and just reading/glancing the word brings a weird anger out in people.... I wonder why....”
“Let me make a prediction for next week.... Ore will be in the dance off.
I have no idea why people on here get so sensitive when these questions are asked. It's not as if racism doesn't exist, just like sexism and homphobia are prevelent, but it seems as though racism is some kind of dirty word and just reading/glancing the word brings a weird anger out in people.... I wonder why....”
I think people get sensitive for two reasons:
1. It is a horrible thing to be accused of
2. It is impossible to prove a negative.
Racism is not a dirty word and I am happy to discuss it where, perhaps, there is some evidence of it coming in to play. But I see no evidence at all with Strictly and always get the impression that people raising it in the context of this programme are just setting hares running.
We could spend hours analysing why each contestant has gone but it would prove nothing. For the record, in Week 1 a truly terrible dancer with a low public profile was voted out. Okay, the circumstances were less than ideal, but the fact that he was black had absolutely nothing to do with it.
With Tameka, I would not have voted for her because I didn't like her dance this week or her costume and I particularly disliked her antics when she spoilt Ore's big moment. I am also not an Eastenders fan so had never heard of her before and, just as Kelly got on my nerves last year, Tameka had a similarly loud OTT personality that I didn't warm to. The fact that she is black was not remotely relevant.
Originally Posted by RichardSteward7:
“Two weeks gone and two black people off already. I strongly suspect there is a slight element of racism out there with the voting (not the judging) and black people don't (usually) get as far as perhaps they deserve unless they are really special as with Ramprakash and Dixon. IMO Natalie Gumede was clearly the best dancer in 2013 and had a lovely personality but still didn't win. Just my opinion and of course I could be wrong.”
“Two weeks gone and two black people off already. I strongly suspect there is a slight element of racism out there with the voting (not the judging) and black people don't (usually) get as far as perhaps they deserve unless they are really special as with Ramprakash and Dixon. IMO Natalie Gumede was clearly the best dancer in 2013 and had a lovely personality but still didn't win. Just my opinion and of course I could be wrong.”
Originally Posted by RichardSteward7:
“Please read the original post properly, I already acknowledged that Alesha won.”
“Please read the original post properly, I already acknowledged that Alesha won.”
In part, yes you did, but if you start a thread on this subject then all forum members are entitled to their own views and responses.
This is a sensitive subject, the posters coming back are giving their responses to your thoughts SCD your new thread.
So basically you answered your own question which proved the thread wrong.
Maybe people thought they were safe.
Maybe people do not like police uniforms.
Maybe Corrie voters were out in force.
Maybe people didn't like the song.
Or the dancing.
Or as she has a new partner, then the loyalty to dancers like Brendan and Anton wasn't there.
Originally Posted by lucy777:
“All of whom are mixed race (I think) so just black enough.. Horrible saying but I think the OP has a point”
“All of whom are mixed race (I think) so just black enough.. Horrible saying but I think the OP has a point
”
I'll say it again. Denise Lewis - last time I saw her she was black and beautiful..
Originally Posted by masterquan:
“Lol why are people pretending a black dark skin person is perceived the same as a mixed raced person.”
“Lol why are people pretending a black dark skin person is perceived the same as a mixed raced person.”
Sad but true
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“Yes, you are absolutely wrong and seeing reds under the bed where there are none.
If you are truly a SCD fan, you will know that the show is as much a popularity contest as it is a dance contest and many factors come into the mix. Viewers don't sit at home thinking 'oh, they're a really good dancer and a fabulous witty person but they're black so I won't vote for them.'
It is insulting to this board and to viewers to insinuate this and, just as there is no place for racism on SCD, there is no place for provocative posts based on zero evidence.”
“Yes, you are absolutely wrong and seeing reds under the bed where there are none.
If you are truly a SCD fan, you will know that the show is as much a popularity contest as it is a dance contest and many factors come into the mix. Viewers don't sit at home thinking 'oh, they're a really good dancer and a fabulous witty person but they're black so I won't vote for them.'
It is insulting to this board and to viewers to insinuate this and, just as there is no place for racism on SCD, there is no place for provocative posts based on zero evidence.”
Yeh it just come naturally for many of them
Originally Posted by RichardSteward7:
“Please read the original post properly, I already acknowledged that Alesha won.”
“Please read the original post properly, I already acknowledged that Alesha won.”
I read it thanks
Alesha won . As did Louis . So your point is again ?
Originally Posted by duckylucky:
“And Alesha won !!
People really need to stop this ridiculous use of the word racism . Keep it for real genuine ugly racism OP”
“And Alesha won !!
People really need to stop this ridiculous use of the word racism . Keep it for real genuine ugly racism OP”
Totally agree. The race baiting is getting ridiculous.
Originally Posted by masterquan:
“Lol why are people pretending a black dark skin person is perceived the same as a mixed raced person.”
“Lol why are people pretending a black dark skin person is perceived the same as a mixed raced person.”
Because for me, they are. They are just people, regardless of their colour or ethnicity. I make a judgement on their dancing and whether I like them or not. I think you'll also find that true racists don't differentiate between black and mixed race, but uniformly hate everyone who is not white.
Originally Posted by masterquan:
“Err nope half white ain't the same as black. Truth. Different colour one is a lot closer to white”
“Err nope half white ain't the same as black. Truth. Different colour one is a lot closer to white”
So will Danny get voted off at some point because Oti is black? Seems to be one of the front runners at the moment. I for one am delighted Oti has a very able partner. Likewise Joane is doing a great job with Ore.
Using mixed race to try and prove racism IS straw clutching. At worst it makes both sides appear racist. One for saying someone is too white, the other for dissmissing them for dancing extremely well.
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