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Is Strictly voting a little bit racist? |
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Do you think most of us are also sexist, ageist (both against the young and old), homophobic, xenophobic, snobbish, regionalist and guilty of religious discrimination?
He won't win, but millions of americans will vote for him. |
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But i don't agree it's singled out. I think some people are just more sensitive to the charge. If someone said I was being sexist or homophobic I'd think about if what I said could be taken that way and if it was. I wouldn't start on a rant about the fact that I could never be those things. And nobody said those aren't effecting the vote. I think they do.
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I feel it is being singled out. Remember, this discussion isn't taking place down in GD; it's in the context of Strictly and was prompted because the first two celebs to be eliminated are black, as though no other considerations could be relevant to what people find appealing or not when they decide how to vote.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM |
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In the spirit of both truth and humour I felt this hit the nail on the head with a smile and it's fab too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM
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I feel it is being singled out. Remember, this discussion isn't taking place down in GD; it's in the context of Strictly and was prompted because the first two celebs to be eliminated are black, as though no other considerations could be relevant to what people find appealing or not when they decide how to vote.
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Melvin and Naga went because they were no good, if voting is really racist how did Naga stay so long? Tameka is a weird one, her and Laura shouldn't have been there but it happens sometimes,voters assume they're safe and vote for other people. But all the judges can do is vote out the worst dance off and imo they did.
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Apologies if anyone has already mentioned this but if the voting is racist, surely both Ore & Joanne and Danny & Oti would have been given the boot despite being at the top of the leaderboard over the last couple of weeks?
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Omg this thread 😳😳😳
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Apologies if anyone has already mentioned this but if the voting is racist, surely both Ore & Joanne and Danny & Oti would have been given the boot despite being at the top of the leaderboard over the last couple of weeks?
I think to get a proper flavour of it you need to read a lot of it and not just skim-read it, otherwise the simplistic stuff and eye-catching headlines don't tell the whole story. It's gruelling stuff, but then so is the wider issue it reflects. But if time is short, I think the poster who said "America has a black president- doesn't mean America doesn't experience racism" puts it about as briefly and eloquently as it gets. |
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Greg Rutherford has had his say on the possibility that there may have been an element of racist voting
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...liminated.html |
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Omg this thread 😳😳😳
A difficult subject is being discussed as sensitively as possible. |
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Greg Rutherford has had his say on the possibility that there may have been an element of racist voting
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...liminated.html Quote:
He said: 'I can't say it's not racism, but mainly because it's not my world. I'd like to think the British public are better than that but I honestly don't know. It's entertainment, and that's just not my world.'
So, like everyone else, he doesn't know.
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So, like everyone else, he doesn't know.
That's actually where I stand (despite the fact some people might have wrongly deduced otherwise) Doesn't mean it's wrong to at least consider the possibility though. |
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But, at least he knows he doesn't know.
That's actually where I stand (despite the fact some people might have wrongly deduced otherwise) Doesn't mean it's wrong to at least consider the possibility though.
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IMO he is hinting what a lot of people think is happening with the voting.
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Greg would have been well advised to give a bland non answer to this question rather than these virtue signalling musings. Not my world? What world is he living in? Isn't he a member of the British public too? And to hold the world of athletics up as a bastion of ethics is really pushing it.
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Greg would have been well advised to give a bland non answer to this question rather than these virtue signalling musings. Not my world? What world is he living in? Isn't he a member of the British public too? And to hold the world of athletics up as a bastion of ethics is really pushing it.
unless being Russian counts. Long-jumping does in fairness to tend to fairly free of that (it's not high profile enough to attract it) - I agree with the first part but then again we can chalk this down to an understandable lack of media savy and I think that's what Greg is talking about - sport especially althetletics is about performance only and not personalities and people's personal preeves - unless it's about the drugs you can get away with taking. |
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An important and obvious topic, which people are aware of, but for some reason the discussion is considered to be uncomfortable. I have noticed especially on DS that some people not all skirt around the issue making all sorts of excuses IMO. I have read some very well reasoned discussions on here.
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So, like everyone else, he doesn't know.
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Greg would have been well advised to give a bland non answer to this question rather than these virtue signalling musings. Not my world? What world is he living in? Isn't he a member of the British public too? And to hold the world of athletics up as a bastion of ethics is really pushing it.
I've read his response and it's intelligent, measured and humane and reflects what he does know about -BAME achievement in sport, which is high- and refuses to be drawn into specifics on what he knows less about- the "not my world" of tv. It made him go up in my estimation; he was prepared to stick his neck out and be counted rather than play it safe to avoid criticism, even though what he said "We can't say it's not racist" is actually irrefutable. |
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Really the only direct action we can all take is to vote Ore. A lot.
Disclaimer: I might have started his App Thread. |
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Really the only direct action we can all take is to vote Ore. A lot.
Disclaimer: I might have started his App Thread. ![]()
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One of the rules of marketing - don't dilute your message! You could have guilt tripped no end of folks into voting for Jo & Ore if you'd played your cards right.
![]() ![]() ![]() (DS really should allow us to write our disclaimers on page 155 in tiny print or invisible ink.) I also have to confess that I'm having to distract attention from Oti's colour and nationality to promote my Vote Ore campaign. Drat. |
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I am too honest.
![]() (DS really should allow us to write our disclaimers on page 155 in tiny print or invisible ink.) I also have to confess that I'm having to distract attention from Oti's colour and nationality to promote my Vote Ore campaign. Drat.
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Typical dog - everything on display!
![]() ![]() Though to be fair, cats are the same. It's just that their bits are tidier and discreetly fur-covered. |
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