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Is Strictly voting a little bit racist?
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inothernews
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Be very careful what you post,

The Sun is reading.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...cked-off-show/”

Then fans quickly began to attack The Sun newspaper, saying it contains so much 'news' that Monday mornings edition is printed on Thursday afternoon.

Now put that in your online article!
penelopesimpson
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by londongirlGre:
“'If I recall correctly'

I'm not saying that voters are racists but I do feel that black people don't tend to win TV competitions. I suppose that we should be grateful that we even have black or other ethnic contestants.”

Chinese people haven't won any or even been featured! As I posted earlier, black people make up less than 3% of the population and have nevertheless been well represented in all the participatory TV shows, way in excess of the percentage you would expect if you were applying quotas.

Their winning ratio is even higher.
CravenHaven
09-10-2016
Anyone want to bet how many posts b4 this thread gets locked... or half-locked... or a little bit locked...


Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“Chinese people haven't won any or even been featured!”

Hau yoo no so?
penelopesimpson
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by CravenHaven:
“Anyone want to bet how many posts b4 this thread gets locked... or half-locked... or a little bit locked...
”

mixed locked?
duckylucky
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by CravenHaven:
“Anyone want to bet how many posts b4 this thread gets locked... or half-locked... or a little bit locked...
”

But but but its a mixed opinion one so dioesnt count !
Katenutzs
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by RichardSteward7:
“Two weeks gone and two black people off already. I strongly suspect there is a slight element of racism out there with the voting (not the judging) and black people don't (usually) get as far as perhaps they deserve unless they are really special as with Ramprakash and Dixon. IMO Natalie Gumede was clearly the best dancer in 2013 and had a lovely personality but still didn't win. Just my opinion and of course I could be wrong.”

Why must it be racist Tameka was victim to being mid table nothing else and lets face it Melvin was pretty hopeless as a dancer.

Natalie Gumede had tons of previous experience and a real 'ringer' therefore people lost interest with her which may also happen with Danny & Louise if Ore, Claudia and a few others show they have progressed throughtout the series whereas Danny & Louise are almost professional/

I am sorry to see Tameka go but I am guilty of thinking she was safe and voting for ED & Lesley. I will change my voting now tho.
red_amber
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“I think people get sensitive for two reasons:

1. It is a horrible thing to be accused of
2. It is impossible to prove a negative.

Racism is not a dirty word and I am happy to discuss it where, perhaps, there is some evidence of it coming in to play. But I see no evidence at all with Strictly and always get the impression that people raising it in the context of this programme are just setting hares running.

We could spend hours analysing why each contestant has gone but it would prove nothing. For the record, in Week 1 a truly terrible dancer with a low public profile was voted out. Okay, the circumstances were less than ideal, but the fact that he was black had absolutely nothing to do with it.

With Tameka, I would not have voted for her because I didn't like her dance this week or her costume and I particularly disliked her antics when she spoilt Ore's big moment. I am also not an Eastenders fan so had never heard of her before and, just as Kelly got on my nerves last year, Tameka had a similarly loud OTT personality that I didn't warm to. The fact that she is black was not remotely relevant.”

I'm sure being a victim of racism is worse.

You don't really have to spend hours analysing anything. It's often asked on here why there are so few black contestents on various shows like these. The reply is usually "Well the British public is made up of only 6% black people" well if thats the case, it's funny how black people are always the first to be voted out, shouldn't it be, statiscally speaking, a white person voted out first, seeing as there are more white people on the show?

In your opinion, please can you tell me what genuine racism is?
penelopesimpson
09-10-2016
The Sun says 'Storm.' Would that be the one they're trying to whip up?

I've seen bigger waves in my goldfish bowl.
Caro07
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jim Kowalski:
“One American,one Irish...hmmmmm”

That might even be a bigger story. Not only has no foreigner ever one but neither has anyone from outside England. The highest placed non English person was Colin Jackson from Wales (who also fits into the non-white category).
babyboomer10
09-10-2016
Of the 2 that have gone home, I've never heard of either of them. Never heard of Laura Whitmore either. Anastasia used to be a Russian Pincess - not sure who Anastacia is. So 2 white, 2 black and I wouldn't vote for any of them unless they thrilled or entertained me with their dancing, which they didn't. Presumably the millions of SCD vewers, who may or may not vote, are of a similar mind
penelopesimpson
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by red_amber:
“I'm sure being a victim of racism is worse.

You don't really have to spend hours analysing anything. It's often asked on here why there are so few black contestents on various shows like these. The reply is usually "Well the British public is made up of only 6% black people" well if thats the case, it's funny how black people are always the first to be voted out, shouldn't it be, statiscally speaking, a white person voted out first, seeing as there are more white people on the show?

In your opinion, please can you tell me what genuine racism is?”


I wouldn't dream of speaking for anyone else or being so conceited as to try to tell anyone what racism is. I can say what it would be for me and that would be treating someone differently because of the colour of their skin.

Glossing over the percentage of the population that black people represent is to ignore the fundamentals of the situation. There are three black contestants in SCD this year and one black Pro. That is way above the percentage they represent.
red_amber
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“Chinese people haven't won any or even been featured! As I posted earlier, black people make up less than 3% of the population and have nevertheless been well represented in all the participatory TV shows, way in excess of the percentage you would expect if you were applying quotas.

Their winning ratio is even higher.”

I posted before I saw your quote. I stand corrected, it's only 3% (apparently)
A.D.P
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by inothernews:
“Then fans quickly began to attack The Sun newspaper, saying it contains so much 'news' that Monday mornings edition is printed on Thursday afternoon.

Now put that in your online article!”



To be honest, I never thought I would see a point, have " The Sun" - and The News, together.
CravenHaven
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by Caro07:
“That might even be a bigger story. Not only has no foreigner ever one but neither has anyone from outside England. The highest placed non English person was Colin Jackson from Wales (who also fits into the non-white category).”

Colin has only himself, I mean Erin, to blame for not winning. The dummy. I mean, dummies
penelopesimpson
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by red_amber:
“I'm sure being a victim of racism is worse.

You don't really have to spend hours analysing anything. It's often asked on here why there are so few black contestents on various shows like these. The reply is usually "Well the British public is made up of only 6% black people" well if thats the case, it's funny how black people are always the first to be voted out, shouldn't it be, statiscally speaking, a white person voted out first, seeing as there are more white people on the show?

In your opinion, please can you tell me what genuine racism is?”

6% is innaccurate. Britain has a wonderful and well-deserved reputation for the way it embraces people of all ethnicities.
penelopesimpson
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by CravenHaven:
“Colin has only himself, I mean Erin, to blame for not winning. The dummy. I mean, dummies
”

Absolutely right. I would have voted for him to win if Erin hadn't pulled that farcical stunt.
A.D.P
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“The Sun says 'Storm.' Would that be the one they're trying to whip up?

I've seen bigger waves in my goldfish bowl.”

The anti BBC Sun, will always ship up a hurricane out of three twitter posts, ignoring the others who disagree, - Murdoch policy.
Arcana
09-10-2016
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penelopesimpson
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by red_amber:
“I posted before I saw your quote. I stand corrected, it's only 3% (apparently)”

Actually, the official statistic is about 2.2% but this was in 2012 which was the last time official figures were released. I suspect it is quite a bit higher now, but 3% is still erring on the side of generosity.
Caro07
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by CravenHaven:
“Colin has only himself, I mean Erin, to blame for not winning. The dummy. I mean, dummies
”

I thought we weren't supposed to mention "puppetgate" !!! I'm not sure of the position on "bacofoil" though?!
red_amber
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“I wouldn't dream of speaking for anyone else or being so conceited as to try to tell anyone what racism is. I can say what it would be for me and that would be treating someone differently because of the colour of their skin.

Glossing over the percentage of the population that black people represent is to ignore the fundamentals of the situation. There are three black contestants in SCD this year and one black Pro. That is way above the percentage they represent.”

You completey missed the point. There are only 3 black contestants, and two of them have already gone. You like statitistics, shouldn't a white person have left? I've seen worse white dancers on strictly than both Melvin and Temeka. I'm sure Ore will be in the bottom next week, no matter how well he dances.
Steve9214
09-10-2016
Any odds on the Middle class white kids from "Black Lives Matter" storming the studios next week then ??
hansue
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by inothernews:
“Then fans quickly began to attack The Sun newspaper, saying it contains so much 'news' that Monday mornings edition is printed on Thursday afternoon.

Now put that in your online article!”

I usually buy The Sun but not tomorrow. Its an insult to us viewers.
CravenHaven
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by Caro07:
“I thought we weren't supposed to mention "puppetgate" !!! I'm not sure of the position on "bacofoil" though?!”

I like that quote that goes like "The puppet dance was cr@p. [Bacofoil] is so much more"
A.D.P
09-10-2016
Originally Posted by Steve9214:
“Any odds on the Middle class white kids from "Black Lives Matter" storming the studios next week then ??”

Please no do not give ideas out, like the recent USA Dancing on Ice protest- Ryan Lochte.
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