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Old 09-10-2016, 21:15
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You completey missed the point. There are only 3 black contestants, and two of them have already gone. You like statitistics, shouldn't a white person have left? I've seen worse white dancers on strictly than both Melvin and Temeka. I'm sure Ore will be in the bottom next week, no matter how well he dances.
I think it is you who are missing the point! I hope it doesn't come as too much of a shock, but most voters are actually voting on what they see on the screen of a dancing programme, not working out their statistics. The BBC do the right thing in ensuring that all races are represented in participatory programmes. They cannot legislate for either the non-whites or the whites to be wonderful dancers which is where choice comes in to it.

My favourite dancer is far and away Oti. Not because she's black or half-black or mixed whatever, but because she is a fabulous dancer, looks amazing and has a warmth that jumps out on screen.

You might just as well turn this argument on its head and ask why black people are so rubbish at Strictly? All of us (racists) have been far too polite to ask the question but I don't see why it should always be laid at the door of the viewers.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:15
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I usually buy The Sun but not tomorrow. Its an insult to us viewers.
I stoped buying but read online now and then.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:16
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I thought Danny was the best so far and a good prospect for winning or at least the final, but with a black partner it looks as if he has only 2 weeks left.

However if he makes the final or semi, does that mean the SCD voters are engaging in positive discrimination by keeping the pair in, or are votes being cast on ability/performance rather than ethnic origin?

Let us see.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:18
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I thought Danny was the best so far and a good prospect for winning or at least the final, but with a black partner it looks as if he has only 2 weeks left.

However if he makes the final or semi, does that mean the SCD voters are engaging in positive discrimination by keeping the pair in, or are votes being cast on ability/performance rather than ethnic origin?

Let us see.
Do you really believe that or are you just being provocative? I think you know the answer to your quesdtion.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:19
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1. In part, yes you did, but if you start a thread on this subject then all forum members are entitled to their own views and responses.

So basically you answered your own question which proved the thread wrong.
1. Just as I am entitled to offer a rebuttal to a post that implies that they have not read my acknowledgement of the mixed race Dixon's success.
2. Completely disagree. The fact that some mixed race people have done well does not mean racism doesn't exist in the voting. But like I said in my original post I could be wrong and it is just my opinion
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:19
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hmmm three years in a row the Top Male was black or mixed race.
Natalie didn't win... just like many good white dancers haven't, Pixie Lott has one of the best averages of all time and didn't even make the final. Denise Van Outen, and others have not won. Laura is in the bottom2 on week 2 when she is not even close to the worse.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:21
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Do you really believe that or are you just being provocative? I think you know the answer to your quesdtion.
I thought the poster was being satirical.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:21
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Do you really believe that or are you just being provocative? I think you know the answer to your quesdtion.
There was an element of sarcasm about the ridiculous idea that everyone is voting for anyone but black. Danny and his black partner are certs for the last 5, which blows a torpedo through the whole racism in voting argument.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:22
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hmmm three years in a row the Top Male was black or mixed race.
Natalie didn't win... just like many good white dancers haven't, Pixie Lott has one of the best averages of all time and didn't even make the final. Denise Van Outen, and others have not won. Laura is in the bottom2 on week 2 when she is not even close to the worse.

Well said, Stash. But I don't think those calling us racists are going to let a few facts stand in the way of their provocation!
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:22
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Because for me, they are. They are just people, regardless of their colour or ethnicity. I make a judgement on their dancing and whether I like them or not. I think you'll also find that true racists don't differentiate between black and mixed race, but uniformly hate everyone who is not white.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:22
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There was an element of sarcasm about the ridiculous idea that everyone is voting for anyone but black. Danny and his black partner are certs for the last 6, which blows a torpedo through the whole racism in voting argument.
Sorry, I think you are absolutely right. I go so wound up, I missed it.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:23
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1. Just as I am entitled to offer a rebuttal to a post that implies that they have not read my acknowledgement of the mixed race Dixon's success.
2. Completely disagree. The fact that some mixed race people have done well does not mean racism doesn't exist in the voting. But like I said in my original post I could be wrong and it is just my opinion
I agree it doesn't necessarily prove racism doesn't exist but based on the last two eliminations on Strictly, I can not see that being any evidence that it DOES. Surely it is more unjust that Laura was bottom 2 when she has been getting good scores so far. Melvyn was the worse dancer, only second to Ed. Tameka was ok but far from the best. As has been stated many other black or mixed race dancer have done very well.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:23
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The Sun says 'Storm.' Would that be the one they're trying to whip up?

I've seen bigger waves in my goldfish bowl.
It's also saying Tameka is fuming that she was not given exemption from the dance off because she had several injuries. They have opened a can of worms over that refusal to do the dance off.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:25
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I think it is you who are missing the point! I hope it doesn't come as too much of a shock, but most voters are actually voting on what they see on the screen of a dancing programme, not working out their statistics. The BBC do the right thing in ensuring that all races are represented in participatory programmes. They cannot legislate for either the non-whites or the whites to be wonderful dancers which is where choice comes in to it.

My favourite dancer is far and away Oti. Not because she's black or half-black or mixed whatever, but because she is a fabulous dancer, looks amazing and has a warmth that jumps out on screen.

You might just as well turn this argument on its head and ask why black people are so rubbish at Strictly? All of us (racists) have been far too polite to ask the question but I don't see why it should always be laid at the door of the viewers.



We can go back and forth on this, but YOU keep missing the point. The highlighted quote expresses why you have no understanding.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:26
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Absolutely right. I would have voted for him to win if Erin hadn't pulled that farcical stunt.
Fair treatment for prosthetic people!!!

Don't judge them by their plastic skin.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:28
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Oh, here we go again. Do you honestly think died in the wool racists make a distinction?

Of course they don't. They are all about white supremacy and if you are genuinely concerned about racism, you should get your facts right.
I get the feeling that there is quite a bit racism towards mixed race people from black people.

Black people are over-represented on Strictly this year, is that racism towards white people?
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:28
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:30
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I think it is you who are missing the point! I hope it doesn't come as too much of a shock, but most voters are actually voting on what they see on the screen of a dancing programme, not working out their statistics. The BBC do the right thing in ensuring that all races are represented in participatory programmes. They cannot legislate for either the non-whites or the whites to be wonderful dancers which is where choice comes in to it.

My favourite dancer is far and away Oti. Not because she's black or half-black or mixed whatever, but because she is a fabulous dancer, looks amazing and has a warmth that jumps out on screen.

You might just as well turn this argument on its head and ask why black people are so rubbish at Strictly? All of us (racists) have been far too polite to ask the question but I don't see why it should always be laid at the door of the viewers.
You still missed the point. And what are you jabbering on about in the last paragraph
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:30
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I get the feeling that there is quite a bit racism towards mixed race people from black people.

Black people are over-represented on Strictly this year, is that racism towards white people?

Wow. This is all getting v.complicated but it's an interesting thought. But you are, of course, right. Black people are over-represented. Those crying racist should be careful what they stir up.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:31
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Fair treatment for prosthetic people!!!

Don't judge them by their plastic skin.
And definitely Irish people. And what about disabled people who haven't been represented at all?
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:31
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Always an exception to the rule and sadly the 'beautiful' probably made a difference
Are you implying that Tameka is not then? She may not be the world's most beautiful but she certainly isn't ugly.
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:32
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Fair treatment for prosthetic people!!!

Don't judge them by their plastic skin.
And definitely Irish people. And red-heads. And what about disabled people who haven't been represented at all?
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:33
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Fair treatment for prosthetic people!!!

Don't judge them by their plastic skin.
And definitely Irish people. And red-heads. And what about disabled people who haven't been represented at all? And people wearing a burqa? Who cares that SCD is a dance contest?
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:36
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And what about disabled people who haven't been represented at all?
Did Kate Garraway not count?
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Old 09-10-2016, 21:39
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Did Kate Garraway not count?
Sorry, and Fiona Phillips!
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