Good idea. Perhaps they can whitesplain the matter at hand for the BAME Britons, most of whom probably do not give a toss having middle aged, middle class, whites subcontracting offence on their behalf.

Yep, quite right I forgot about Fiona

Nice legs. What form did her disability take, (apart from no sense of rhythm, timing, footwork)?

Just waiting now for the why don't we have a black judge comment and back to the GBBO with only one coloured winner and its questionable that Nadia is probably not black enough to count as there is no public vote is it the suggestion that Mary Berry and Paul Holllywood are racist. I'm sure there are racists out there but don't imagine the % is any less in the Asian or black community as it is amongst the white folk.

Some folks just choose to see racism everywhere, and they don't seem unduly hampered by facts, or logic, or indeed statistics.

Why take it personally?

I think this is a subject which could take some discussion, but while people are getting so defensive and taking it as a personal attack, nothing can be sensibly debated.

Nope. She was middle of the road (at best), so not good enough to wow everyone and not bad enough to be the joke contestant.

Well, quite. Reading this thread I am now completely muddled about what is a black person. What would Nadia be? What is Naga? Are we presuming that to be classified as black, the person must be Afro-Caribbean or African-American? I had always thought that racists were people who just hated everybody who wasn't white - but as I don't think I know any, my view is a bit rubbish!

She seemed confused by the process of putting one foot infront of the other which might be classified as a disability.

Who was the male contestant who was under the impression he was Fred Astaire and went on and on about getting to Blackpool? He was the only contestant I have every truly hated.

They do every year. Jamelia's case last time around brought a whole torrent of touchy defensive "how very dare you suggest my favourite programme is racist, what about ... (insert mixed race contestant here) ... anyway some of my best friends are... ". This year is a bit of a false start - as sure as the sun rIses in the East, Ore wlll start appearing in the DO in a few weeks and need the judges to save him, then it will all kick off again properly.

Both Patrick and Simon were in multiple dance-offs though. And Louis had the whole young Olympian boyish vote going on.

So, to take your post to it's logical conclusion, if any black person is voted off, it's racism?

So, to take your post to it's logical conclusion, if any black person is voted off, it's racism?

Ore may figure in the dance-off in coming weeks - but so will two couples every week

And not grabbing any.



This^^

So Laura is just this side of OK due to her Irish ancestry (Place of birth) ... Lesley Joseph is 70 Far too old for SCD (Ageist) ... how far do you take this anyway. All of the people in SCD this year are HUMAN BEINGS. That is how I see them. The OP has a point but it is the wrong one.




Nice to see the S*n journo's keeping up their high standard. If all I had to wipe my arse was the S*n newspaper my trousers would be a lovely shade of brown.

And on a lighter note ....


I too was flummoxed by IiRC, what I do in these situations is highlight the offending letters right click on the mouse and let Google do the work for me.

Craig Kelly.

I can only remember because Melvin brought him to mind; similar level of dance ability, though rather less delusional.

When Ore appears in the dance off it's more likely to be down to the choreography of a white woman from Grimsby than his dance ability or appeal.

Patrick was in one dance off, previous to elimination. Yes Simon was in more dance offs but ultimately he was runner up and did better in the public vote than Mark. Majority of them are in the dance off at least once anyway. I think there have plenty of unfair dance offs involving white dancers - Pixie, Caroline, Abbie, Denise, Laura this week and many many more who weren't even remotely near to being the worst.

As I said in the "spoiler thread" earlier, it didn't even occur to me that the people who left the show last weekend and this weekend were black. Rightly or wrongly, skin colour just isn't the thing I define people by - nor is it the most important thing to consider about anyone when forming opinions of them.

I had heard of neither Melvin nor Tameka before the line up for Strictly was announced. (Nor had I heard of Laura Whitmore and a couple of the others for that matter). On that basis I had no pre-conceived opinions of them.

From what I saw of Melvin, he just wasn't a particularly great dancer. I felt that Tameka was not a bad dancer - and her characterisations were superb - however, she did not come across as being particularly likeable, based upon what I saw of her.

Rightly or wrongly - and whether we like it or not - Strictly is generally more about personalities than dancing ability at this early stage. It seems to matter to be able to make an impression on the viewing/ voting public as soon as possible but how the individuals do that varies a great deal.

For myself, Tameka's behaviour detracted from her dancing, which was a pity... but it may have appealed a lot to some people. I found her behaviour at the end of the results show very odd, however - verging on distasteful in fact - and frankly it made me feel that the decision to send her home was the right decision after all.

Would you ask the same question if two white people had gone ? You may strongly suspect racism if the contestants you favour do not go far that does not mean the voting public are all racist just that they voted for their favourites. Do you assume the Judges are racist for choosing Tameka to go in the dance off ?

And if you believe the voters are racist does this mean only white people are voting on SCD ?

Lefties? Is this a trolling contest now. I'm a leftie, there's no racism.
Strange now that I think of it that there's no opposite term for leftie. Perhaps identification as someone of the right is insult enough.

If there were only three white contestants and two of them were eliminated in the first two weeks then it would be perfectly reasonable to wonder why.

Could it be because they couldn't dance???????

Would it, I tend to watch the show and the dance and assume voting takes place due to peoples talent (which it should be ) or probably more their popularity with their fans , not down to where you are on the Dulux Colour Chart

Reminds me of our by-election. Of 14 candidates there are only 3 women & one black person. Chances are a chinless white male Tory will be elected.

I am reading the thread and wracking my brains and just cannot place a Simon ? Who was Simon ?