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Moffat: "There is no need for a doctor/showrunner to leave at the same time" |
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True, but Smith never really got any major roles in movies like he wanted,/ DT eventually became successful in TV again.
I agree re Capaldi. He probably doesn't care about being typecast as much, as he has such a large body of work behind him, and his daughter is grown up, so he doesn't have to worry about being away from a young family so much. There's no real reason he would want to leave, apart from feeling he'd done all he could with the role |
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Cant see why not, its his dream role. After leaving after only 3 yrs, really did nothing significant for Smiths career
I like Capaldi's Doctor but I find it ridiculous that some people seem unwilling to consider the possibility of him leaving with Moffat. |
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Or Tennant's either and it's not entirely up to Peter either to an extent. If higher ups in the BBC want a new Doctor, they could go with one. Chibnall himself might want a new Doctor to kick his era off.
I like Capaldi's Doctor but I find it ridiculous that some people seem unwilling to consider the possibility of him leaving with Moffat. Its not ridiculous at all to think CC would want new doc OR want Capaldi to stay. Now whether he accepts is a different story, |
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There's no reason for Chibnall to be front stage at this point, his first series won't be on screen until 18 months away, S10 is still being filmed, and Chibs will be busy with Broadchurch 3
I prefer some continuity, S5 for was great but changing showrunner, Doctor and Companions was a massive risk. I expect Peter to stay on for Chib's first series, if he leaves after S10 he will have been on for less screen time than David and Matt as David had the Specials year and Matt was around for all of the 50th events. It's interesting that Karen and Jenna have had more immediate mainstream success than Matt since leaving the show. Matt has tended to choose quirky projects or been in flops, The Crown should be his first big "hit" and even there he is in the "Companion" role, while Jenna is in the leading role. |
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I actually think it might benefit the show to have Chibnall start off with everything new as well though. Pull more viewers back in with a whole new cast, mission statement and so on.
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There's no reason for Chibnall to be front stage at this point, his first series won't be on screen until 18 months away, S10 is still being filmed, and Chibs will be busy with Broadchurch 3
I prefer some continuity, S5 for was great but changing showrunner, Doctor and Companions was a massive risk. I expect Peter to stay on for Chib's first series, if he leaves after S10 he will have been on for less screen time than David and Matt as David had the Specials year and Matt was around for all of the 50th events. It's interesting that Karen and Jenna have had more immediate mainstream success than Matt since leaving the show. Matt has tended to choose quirky projects or been in flops, The Crown should be his first big "hit" and even there he is in the "Companion" role, while Jenna is in the leading role. |
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There's no reason for Chibnall to be front stage at this point, his first series won't be on screen until 18 months away, S10 is still being filmed, and Chibs will be busy with Broadchurch 3
I prefer some continuity, S5 for was great but changing showrunner, Doctor and Companions was a massive risk. I expect Peter to stay on for Chib's first series, if he leaves after S10 he will have been on for less screen time than David and Matt as David had the Specials year and Matt was around for all of the 50th events. It's interesting that Karen and Jenna have had more immediate mainstream success than Matt since leaving the show. Matt has tended to choose quirky projects or been in flops, The Crown should be his first big "hit" and even there he is in the "Companion" role, while Jenna is in the leading role. Personally, I think Smith needs a new agent, He obviously letft to pursue films, but has yet to get any good role in one. The Crown is a pretty good show but it is a supporting role. He simply should have stayed another yr, it would not have afftected his after who career, in fact it might have made it better. |
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Personally, I think Smith needs a new agent, He obviously letft to pursue films, but has yet to get any good role in one. The Crown is a pretty good show but it is a supporting role.
He simply should have stayed another yr, it would not have afftected his after who career, in fact it might have made it better. |
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Although you could say that unfortunately when it comes to women in acting and the media especially, they shine brightly for a very short time, until the next pretty 20 something comes along. They are then relegated at 35 to playing the mother of teenagers (see Mila Kunis) Statistcally female actors reach their peak earning potential at around 30 whereas male actors don't reach peak earning capacity until around 50.
The scenario you mention seems to favor the women. How many actors die before reaching their peak at 50 (River Phoenix, Heath Ledger, etc.)? 35 is statistically much more attainable. |
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Call me old fashioned (or just plain old), but I love Mila Kunis (and her slightly older counterpart Zoe Deschenel (sp?)). They are good actresses and they are so beautiful.
The scenario you mention seems to favor the women. How many actors die before reaching their peak at 50 (River Phoenix, Heath Ledger, etc.)? 35 is statistically much more attainable. Thats true about male actors. but maybe that's because they are more susceptible to the trappings of that sort of lifestyle- the drink and drugs. But going back to the Who conversation, if former actors, especially the leads aren't successful, the job is going to be seen as something you do when you are in the twilight of your career, as some sort of vanity project. That's not a good thing for variety or the reputation of the show. My son absolutely loves Who. Hes 8. He loved Matt smith. My abiding memory of his childhood is him going everywhere ( literally- nursery, soft play, shopping, kids parties...) in his little tweed jacket and bow tie. So I have fond memories of Matt too as a result. |
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Yes Mila Kunis is beautiful and a great actress. But in her new film, she is playing a mother of a 12 year old. She's gone from babe to middle aged mum in about 2 years. She's only about 31!
Thats true about male actors. but maybe that's because they are more susceptible to the trappings of that sort of lifestyle- the drink and drugs. But going back to the Who conversation, if former actors, especially the leads aren't successful, the job is going to be seen as something you do when you are in the twilight of your career, as some sort of vanity project. That's not a good thing for variety or the reputation of the show. My son absolutely loves Who. Hes 8. He loved Matt smith. My abiding memory of his childhood is him going everywhere ( literally- nursery, soft play, shopping, kids parties...) in his little tweed jacket and bow tie. So I have fond memories of Matt too as a result. I personally would not mind if all of The Doctors were older actors in the twilight of their careers (I like my Doctors more avuncular), but I can understand the appeal of a younger Doctor to children. Also, I have known many, many 30 year olds who have had 12 and 13 year old children. And as for Mila Kunis in "Bad Moms", I say "Give me more!". LOL! It was a great film and she was beautiful and great in it.
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Mila was great in it, admittedly and very funny! Blimey The youngest mum I know is 30 with an 8 year old and that's by some way! The rest of us are geriatric 40 something's!
My son still watches Who, and still likes it, but hasnt really connected with PC. But I don't think that's his age, as he loves some of the Classic Doctors. I think the change in personality was a bit much. Everyone's old to a kid anyway
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There's a story on Digital Spy this morning where he's essentially repeating the same comment.
Interesting that the headline for the story is "Steven Moffat insists Peter Capaldi isn't leaving Doctor Who" but if you read it, Steven Moffat doesn't say that. His actually comment is: "Me leaving has got no impact on the regeneration. Nothing at all. There's no reason that should be the case." So within this interview, he isn't saying Capaldi is staying. He's simply stating that an Executive Producer's departure has no bearing in whether or not there is a new Doctor. Which is different. I am guessing one of three things is going one: 1/ Capaldi is leaving and they simply don't want to announce that before his final season has even aired 2/ there are contractual processes underway behind the scenes and Capaldi isn't technically signed up for season 11 yet - but the intention is that he will be 3/ he is signed up for season 11 but they want to keep viewers on tenterhooks Because otherwise I think the simplest thing to do is say, really clearly, "Peter has just signed up to continue playing the Doctor for season 11". At the moment, everything Moffat and Capaldi are saying seems a little evasive. |
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If you read it carefully, none of what's been said confirms things either way and none will actually be lies when the decision is revealed.
It's either not been decided yet or it has been decided and they don't want to reveal either way yet. To me, either reason is still possible. If he is leaving with SM they would not want to reveal that until publicity starts for season 10 or during its run. They will wait till then to get maximum publicity value for his last series. If he's staying there's no need for an announcement. |
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I remember Jay Leno once did a press conference to confirm he was staying on as host of The Tonight Show because the media had been obsessing about who was replacing him.
I remember him saying something like; "This press conference has been set up to tell you all I've not been fired. That's literally why we're here. To tell you all I'm not out of a job." It was very funny but did make a good point. His producer was stood next to him the whole time looking incredibly uncomfortable. |
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The truth is until the BBC officially announce that Capaldi is definitely stay for Series 11, there's the good chance he might not be.
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The truth is until the BBC officially announce that Capaldi is definitely stay for Series 11, there's the good chance he might not be.
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No I don't think David Tennant could pull of Series 5 like Matt Smith could, I Love David Tennant to the moon back but, Matt Smith fit the fairytale, runaway with me Amelia Pond theme more of 2010, It was such a magical time back then seeing little Amelia Pond and The Doctor, IMO That was when Moffat was at his best as showrunner.
![]() But I get your point I didn't want DT to go but I think MS was the right one for that series. |
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Personally, I think Smith needs a new agent, He obviously letft to pursue films, but has yet to get any good role in one. The Crown is a pretty good show but it is a supporting role.
He simply should have stayed another yr, it would not have afftected his after who career, in fact it might have made it better. David had some decent parts after leaving the show, but only found something as big in Broadchurch Peter doesn't need another iconic role, so is in a different position of not having to "escape" from the part of the Doctor. |
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If you read it carefully, none of what's been said confirms things either way and none will actually be lies when the decision is revealed.
It's either not been decided yet or it has been decided and they don't want to reveal either way yet. To me, either reason is still possible. If he is leaving with SM they would not want to reveal that until publicity starts for season 10 or during its run. They will wait till then to get maximum publicity value for his last series. If he's staying there's no need for an announcement. The way things work on the show, and how far everything has to be planned and written and cast, I find it almost unbelievable that they would leave the show in the position of possibly having to recast the main role at short notice (which a few months is short notice to this show). I suppose the reason is, staying or leaving, the constant speculation is keeping the show in the press and in people's minds, so especially now, when they have no actual show on offer, such a thing keeping people speculating about the show is good for reminding people it still exists. Whatever the case, I don't get why Moffat keeps getting wheeled out to make 'might and maybe' type comments on the subject. Firstly, he's not confirming or denying anything, or saying anything concrete at all, and secondly, we know he is nothing to do with the decision, so his comments are pretty meaningless anyway. If they're going to tease, I'd take more notice if it were Chibnall making the comments. |
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If they're going to tease, I'd take more notice if it were Chibnall making the comments.
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Mentioned before, I think Moffat is only 'coming out with these comments' because people keep flippin' asking him! Chibnall hasn't actively started yet, so Moffat is still doing the interviews/panels and this stuff is always being brought up and quoted. He's not just deciding to make announcements off his own bat or anything....sure he'd much prefer to just talk about the upcoming series, Class and stuff.
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Thing is, once you become the Doctor, that's the peak of your career before you've even started. I don't think any of them could ever say they truly "let go" of the role.
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