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Old 10-10-2016, 19:53
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Is anyone else getting fed up of Ste?

Personally, I absolutely HATE Ste with a Passion! He is so annoying and he is EXTREMELY Overrated!!!

It's the same storyline with him, Over and OVER Again!!! It's always about him screwing everything up and Taking Drugs!

I EASILY predicted that Ste was gonna punch Ryan in tonight's episode and it's SO PREDICTABLE that he's not going to Prison.

They want the viewers to symphathise with Ste and root for him by making Ryan an A**hole, but Ste is so Unlikeable, I can't root for him.

If you ask me, he NEEDS to go! and so does Kirkwood!

What do you guys think of Ste?
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Old 10-10-2016, 20:06
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Ste is awful. In fact if anyone asked me who I disliked most in HO, he'd win that crown. Yep that's right, I'll even take Freddie and Diego over him.

I'm just so bored of him and his latest drama. It's one issue led story after another with Ste. It's exhausting to watch. I mean give him a rest already. How many stories does one character need? It's like Kirkwood is doing everything he can to keep him relevant. It's clear who is his golden boy. It's like the show is scared to lose him or something.

I find Ste so OTT and dramatic too in everything he does. He's completely childish and not fit enough to be a father. We're supposed to hate RyRy and Ameh ... But I really have no sympathy for Ste. If he was hit by a bus tomorrow, the show would be doing the viewers a favour.

I also find Keiron very overrated. He can pull it out of the bag when need be. His drug 3 hander was particulalry impresive but he does seem to have the same possessed face in his day to day stuff. He's not very consistent and his latest stuff has left me cold.
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Old 10-10-2016, 20:17
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I used to like him, a lot, and I've always felt for him... but the character completely lost me during McHay, for the borderline emotionally abusive way he acted towards JP.

Ste as a character is completely worn out anyway, too many issues piled one after another, I always say he is a walking farce, more than a person/character. You can't take him seriously anymore.
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Old 10-10-2016, 20:20
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Please take note, Mr Kirkwood.There is too much Ste on Hollyoaks!!! So give him (and more importantly, us), a break.
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Old 10-10-2016, 20:55
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Also can't stand him, far to overused. Every issue based storyline possible seems to be going to him, drugs, HIV, sexuality discovery, domestic violence both as an abuser and a victim, marriages, relationships, partners/husbands dying, homelessness Can't stand his watery eyed blank expressions anymore! Now he is getting some mystery illness.... seriously give the character a long REST
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Old 10-10-2016, 20:59
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I was sick of the drugs storylines but I like this one, just cos .I am wondering what is wrong with him to cause his illness.

Do agree he needs less issue led storylines tho, they could share them out a bit more.
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Old 10-10-2016, 21:14
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I'm not a Ste fan, mainly because he is used too much.

Has his HIV been cured as there's no mention of that, ever.

Take Ste, Ameh and Ridiculous RyRy and lock them in that bomb shelter in the woods. Forever.
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Old 10-10-2016, 21:26
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Ste is awful. In fact if anyone asked me who I disliked most in HO, he'd win that crown. Yep that's right, I'll even take Freddie and Diego over him.

I'm just so bored of him and his latest drama. It's one issue led story after another with Ste. It's exhausting to watch. I mean give him a rest already. How many stories does one character need? It's like Kirkwood is doing everything he can to keep him relevant. It's clear who is his golden boy. It's like the show is scared to lose him or something.

I find Ste so OTT and dramatic too in everything he does. He's completely childish and not fit enough to be a father. We're supposed to hate RyRy and Ameh ... But I really have no sympathy for Ste. If he was hit by a bus tomorrow, the show would be doing the viewers a favour.

I also find Keiron very overrated. He can pull it out of the bag when need be. His drug 3 hander was particulalry impresive but he does seem to have the same possessed face in his day to day stuff. He's not very consistent and his latest stuff has left me cold.
I agree with every word of this. Except, I didn't watch his 3 hander because I dislike him so intensely that I deliberately avoided that episode.

I am sick to death of him. I have no more sympathy for him. Haven't had for years. He's a little gremlin. I wish to God Kieron would leave Hollyoaks, tbh. Its clear they won't axe him even although he's a very worn out character and they do the same trainwreck storylines with him over and over. I feel bad saying that because i'm sure Kieron's a nice guy and he's really been a consistently good actor for Hollyoaks but enough is enough. I wish he'd at least take a break like Nick Pickard did a few years back.
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Old 10-10-2016, 22:08
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I'm not a Ste fan, mainly because he is used too much.

Has his HIV been cured as there's no mention of that, ever.

Take Ste, Ameh and Ridiculous RyRy and lock them in that bomb shelter in the woods. Forever.
Classic example of why HO is generally terrible. They go for the big sensational shocks- however they wouldn't dream of actually showing the little things likeSte dealing with living with HIV and just the minor ways that changed his life- no that got boring so now he has to have a new mystery illness that they can also stop mentioning after the "shocker" episode where it is announced.
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Old 10-10-2016, 22:11
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Far too overused. *Everything* seems to happen to him.
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Old 11-10-2016, 01:26
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its a total mystery. really cold character
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Old 11-10-2016, 01:55
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Isn't Ste meant to be HIV positive? I can't remember how that ended now as Ste has too much drama. JP has forgotten that he had problems with his eyesight. Cindy is never seen with her young son
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Old 11-10-2016, 01:57
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Classic example of why HO is generally terrible. They go for the big sensational shocks- however they wouldn't dream of actually showing the little things likeSte dealing with living with HIV and just the minor ways that changed his life- no that got boring so now he has to have a new mystery illness that they can also stop mentioning after the "shocker" episode where it is announced.
If he's taking his medication there's not much of a story to tell. People with HIV - especially within the first few years of transmission - live perfectly normal lives. It's actually one of the storylines they haven't sensationalised.
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:12
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If he's taking his medication there's not much of a story to tell. People with HIV - especially within the first few years of transmission - live perfectly normal lives. It's actually one of the storylines they haven't sensationalised.
I was going to say the same. Once you get passed the initial diagnosis there isn't much story to tell, just a person taking daily medication and living their life.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:03
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I was going to say the same. Once you get passed the initial diagnosis there isn't much story to tell, just a person taking daily medication and living their life.
I think what's frustrating is that his HIV is never mentioned. It almost feels like once the writers revealed Ste's diagnosis and briefly showed the impact on his life, it all became a moot point. If a viewer only tuned into HO this year, they wouldn't even know that Ste had HIV.

I understand that he just lives his life taking medication daily but when he was first diagnosed, he made such a big deal out of not sleeping with JP out of fear. However he had no problem jumping into bed with sinead or now Harry with no concern. It's like the writers want us to forget about it altogether. I'm not suggesting weekly or monthly monologues from Ste about how bad it is for him but for sake of continuity, it would not hurt to reference it now and again.

I feel the way it's been handled just proves that the story was done for shock factor and nothing else. The writers have no care about following something as important as HIV through long term. They just want to move onto ste's latest drama.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:18
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I think what's frustrating is that his HIV is never mentioned. It almost feels like once the writers revealed Ste's diagnosis and briefly showed the impact on his life, it all became a moot point. If a viewer only tuned into HO this year, they wouldn't even know that Ste had HIV.

I understand that he just lives his life taking medication daily but when he was first diagnosed, he made such a big deal out of not sleeping with JP out of fear. However he had no problem jumping into bed with sinead or now Harry with no concern. It's like the writers want us to forget about it altogether. I'm not suggesting weekly or monthly monologues from Ste about how bad it is for him but for sake of continuity, it would not hurt to reference it now and again.

I feel the way it's been handled just proves that the story was done for shock factor and nothing else. The writers have no care about following something as important as HIV through long term. They just want to move onto ste's latest drama.
100% exactly this! Great post!
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:48
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Given his drug abuse and now his memory problems, it would seem unlikely that he would always remember to take his medication.
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:02
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Ste has had his day on HO and it's time for someone behind the scenes to grow a pair and finally write him out! He was a great character, but the last 2 years have been excruciating.

To make matters worse, his storylines this year have involved equally detestable characters like Cameron and that wooden dummy Ryan (Duncan from Blue no less).
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Old 11-10-2016, 10:17
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I agree that Ste hasn't evolved indeed any evolving he did do has now been regressed. The revolving door thing of Ste on drugs , Ste off drugs, Ste back on drugs has been pretty tedious with nothing new to tell....

but

...this time around we are being shown
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so I'll go with it for a while. I think there is a genuinely valid message for a change. What bothers me is that Ste's issues have become white noise and people have stopped listening so messages lose their impact.
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:13
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I don't remember Amy being so miserable and sour last time round though. It seems poor lad can't do right for wrong, she spins round to stare at him, points her finger, 'Ste, this can't happen again, I mean it, I'll take the kids away' etc then continues to stare at him till he grovels and promises to be a good boy again ffs give him a break.
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:24
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I don't remember Amy being so miserable and sour last time round though. It seems poor lad can't do right for wrong, she spins round to stare at him, points her finger, 'Ste, this can't happen again, I mean it, I'll take the kids away' etc then continues to stare at him till he grovels and promises to be a good boy again ffs give him a break.
He has been given too many breaks already. It's time for people to stop enabling him/pandering to him/indulging him.

He keeps promising to get his life back on track, but then he screws up worse than before. He is absolutely free to self-destruct and ruin his own life, but in that case his children can't be around him. He has to decide once and for all whether he intends to be a reliable father or not, otherwise Amy needs to keep the kids away from him for their own good.

The children must be the priority, not "poor me" Ste.
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:49
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Yes, the children's welfare has to come first. I think denying him/them any kind of visiting rights is taking it too far, though. Their meetings could be supervised if necessary, but Ste and the kids love each other, and it's unnecessarily cruel to stop them seeing each other altogether.
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Old 11-10-2016, 12:06
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Yes, the children's welfare has to come first. I think denying him/them any kind of visiting rights is taking it too far, though. Their meetings could be supervised if necessary, but Ste and the kids love each other, and it's unnecessary cruel to stop them seeing each other altogether.
Yeah, I totally agree on that.

However, I don't think Amy would really do that. I think "evil" Amy wanting to deny Ste visiting rights is just the latest of a series of attempts to make us feel sorry for Ste and root for him. These writers aren't subtle at all.
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Old 11-10-2016, 12:11
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Yeah, I totally agree on that.

However, I don't think Amy would really do that. I think "evil" Amy wanting to deny Ste visiting rights is just the latest of a series of attempts to make us feel sorry for Ste and root for him. These writers aren't subtle at all.
Yes, I'm sure you're right.
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Old 11-10-2016, 18:41
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I think what's frustrating is that his HIV is never mentioned. It almost feels like once the writers revealed Ste's diagnosis and briefly showed the impact on his life, it all became a moot point. If a viewer only tuned into HO this year, they wouldn't even know that Ste had HIV.

I understand that he just lives his life taking medication daily but when he was first diagnosed, he made such a big deal out of not sleeping with JP out of fear. However he had no problem jumping into bed with sinead or now Harry with no concern. It's like the writers want us to forget about it altogether. I'm not suggesting weekly or monthly monologues from Ste about how bad it is for him but for sake of continuity, it would not hurt to reference it now and again.

I feel the way it's been handled just proves that the story was done for shock factor and nothing else. The writers have no care about following something as important as HIV through long term. They just want to move onto ste's latest drama.
While I agree they moved through the consequences of diagnosis pretty rapidly and also a bit muddled with it - I also agree it was a shock value storyline. However as someone who knows about living with HIV I know it is not a daily discussion. It may be relevant when medication changes are involved but really living with HIV is not that exciting/interesting. It is like being diabetic, you take your medication and you live your life.
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