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He really is an absolute sad sack of a boy isn't he? It's quite realistic though, I think a lot of young men in their early 20s struggle somewhat to have their shit together. Pitiful to watch though.
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I really really hope you never have to deal with mental health issues and or suicide in your family you totally ignorant moron. Suicide is the biggest killer amongst men in their 20's in this country so to say that Quote:
I think a lot of young men in their early 20s struggle somewhat to have their shit together
is just unbelievable disrespectful to people suffering from depression and other mental health issues and others that have families or friends affected.
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For me, he's the biggest "flop" character (besides Mick) that they have introduced in recent years. At least they have seen sense and decided to write him out. He isn't "pitiful" to watch, he's embarrassing. Compare him to other characters who have suffered from mental illness (i.e. Stacy, Andy in Emmerdale) and you will understand what I mean.
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I find him quite realistic. Many men who leave the army struggle to cope in civilian life.
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He really is an absolute sad sack of a boy isn't he? It's quite realistic though, I think a lot of young men in their early 20s struggle somewhat to have their shit together. Pitiful to watch though.
Lee is not a 'sad sack'. He is a good hearted, kind young lad who is suffering from severe clinical depression. I suppose you are one of those people who would expect him to 'pull himself together'. Do you know how many great historical figures suffered from the Black Dog? Attitudes like that do not belong in the 21st century I am afraid. |
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For me, he's the biggest "flop" character (besides Mick) that they have introduced in recent years. At least they have seen sense and decided to write him out. He isn't "pitiful" to watch, he's embarrassing. Compare him to other characters who have suffered from mental illness (i.e. Stacy, Andy in Emmerdale) and you will understand what I mean.
Sadly the previous producers did us all a disservice by keeping the storyline in the background. Personally I have seen the way Lee acts and can identify with the subtleness of the depression affecting him. |
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He really is an absolute sad sack of a boy isn't he? It's quite realistic though, I think a lot of young men in their early 20s struggle somewhat to have their shit together. Pitiful to watch though.
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I really really hope you never have to deal with mental health issues and or suicide in your family you totally ignorant moron. Suicide is the biggest killer amongst men in their 20's in this country so to say that
is just unbelievable disrespectful to people suffering from depression and other mental health issues and others that have families or friends affected. |
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Lee is not a 'sad sack'. He is a good hearted, kind young lad who is suffering from severe clinical depression. I suppose you are one of those people who would expect him to 'pull himself together'. Do you know how many great historical figures suffered from the Black Dog? Attitudes like that do not belong in the 21st century I am afraid. |
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Suicide? What on earth are you on about?
Lee has been diagnosed with depression,. Untreated, depression can often lead to suicide, suicide is the biggest killer amongst men in their 20's (i.e.) Lee IMO your OP was like something from 20 years ago. Luckily views have changed since then. Maybe you should just do the decent thing and admit that your OP was tasteless and apologize for your error. |
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"A lot of men in their 20's struggle to get their shit together"
Lee has been diagnosed with depression,. Untreated, depression can often lead to suicide, suicide is the biggest killer amongst men in their 20's (i.e.) Lee IMO your OP was like something from 20 years ago. Luckily views have changed since then. Maybe you should just do the decent thing and admit that your OP was tasteless and apologize for your error. |
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He really is an absolute sad sack of a boy isn't he? It's quite realistic though, I think a lot of young men in their early 20s struggle somewhat to have their shit together. Pitiful to watch though.
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Nah. If anything my expressed view was regarding the character's portrayal while also offering some praise. You can disagree with my assessment of that by all means.
You are being flip about his mental health issue's though. It would be like me commenting about a character in their 50's suffering with cancer how people of that age often struggle being energetic etc You are completely disregarding the health condition and treating Lee like he is just one of those lazy, disorganised early 20's people who can't be bothered to get their act together. I will agree the story line has suffered somewhat and due to poor writing/direction but I feel they are picking it up better now. It's all the ways everyone is treating Lee- putting this huge pressure on him to find a job to "man up" and be the provider and then we see his reaction when he doesn't get a job- he feels like a failure. |
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It doesn't help Lee quit an interview to rush to Whitney.
I think the writing has been poor but also the actor isn't the strongest so I think that why its considered a flop by some viewers. People deal with situations differently. |
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Lee is not a 'sad sack'. He is a good hearted, kind young lad who is suffering from severe clinical depression. I suppose you are one of those people who would expect him to 'pull himself together'. Do you know how many great historical figures suffered from the Black Dog? Attitudes like that do not belong in the 21st century I am afraid. |
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You are being flip about his mental health issue's though. It would be like me commenting about a character in their 50's suffering with cancer how people of that age often struggle being energetic etc You are completely disregarding the health condition and treating Lee like he is just one of those lazy, disorganised early 20's people who can't be bothered to get their act together.
I will agree the story line has suffered somewhat and due to poor writing/direction but I feel they are picking it up better now. It's all the ways everyone is treating Lee- putting this huge pressure on him to find a job to "man up" and be the provider and then we see his reaction when he doesn't get a job- he feels like a failure. |
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I've seen so many posts about Lee being a kindhearted and decent young guy, but didn't he cheat on Whitters and give her an STD?!
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Just not convincing could be poor acting and/or poor scriptwriting maybe?
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Did Lee not already have the interview? I'm nearly sure I heard him say on the phone to Mick "Dad it went really well" before Mick cut him off to tell him about Whitney
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It doesn't help Lee quit an interview to rush to Whitney.
I think the writing has been poor but also the actor isn't the strongest so I think that why its considered a flop by some viewers. People deal with situations differently. |
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It doesn't help Lee quit an interview to rush to Whitney.
I think the writing has been poor but also the actor isn't the strongest so I think that why its considered a flop by some viewers. People deal with situations differently. |
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Did Lee not already have the interview? I'm nearly sure I heard him say on the phone to Mick "Dad it went really well" before Mick cut him off to tell him about Whitney
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Yes he did say he had already been to the interview so I don't know where and why anyone is saying he quit or didn't attend the interview.
The confusion should have been cleared up in the following episode anyway when he confirmed he had a second interview. |
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No. I made no reference to his mental health issues. Last I saw on Eastenders this was being assisted by medication. My overriding point was that many young men struggle generally at life and it's sad and frustrating to watch albeit it's realistic.
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He really is an absolute sad sack of a boy isn't he? It's quite realistic though, I think a lot of young men in their early 20s struggle somewhat to have their shit together. Pitiful to watch though.
So where in this scathing comment did you mention or make reference to his mental health issue? Lee is struggling in life because he is suffering with depression and not because he is a typical 20's something lay about struggling to get up of his backside. Also popping a pill from the doctor does not automatically solve all the problems. |
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Did you? Here is your OP quoted below:
So where in this scathing comment did you mention or make reference to his mental health issue? Lee is struggling in life because he is suffering with depression and not because he is a typical 20's something lay about struggling to get up of his backside. Also popping a pill from the doctor does not automatically solve all the problems. |
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Yes he did say he had already been to the interview so I don't know where and why anyone is saying he quit or didn't attend the interview.
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