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The Missing- Series 2
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rubyred25
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Lamby Pie:
“Re-watching episode 3. About 19 minutes in, Brig Stone is looking at a photo, looks to be a military troop in the desert. Has anyone else looked closely at that picture? I can't identify any of the characters, but there's a black man in the back row that I would presume to be Henry Reed. The rest are all men except for one woman. My money's on that being Nadia. Comments?”

I am re-watching the episodes and going to watch episode 3 next.. Will let you know. Nadia was in the military with Stone and Henry Reed so, probably is her
rubyred25
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Soul Siesta:
“This is not a programme you can half watch while doing something else. I have found you can miss things even when paying close attention. Lots of clues and ideas on here. Enjoy.”

bbciplayer views must be sky high I missed the little boy who spotted the camper van in switzerland.. Only when I re-watched I saw that. I have watched the episodes twice over now. Back on the third watch
linfran
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by rubyred25:
“bbciplayer views must be sky high I missed the little boy who spotted the camper van in switzerland.. Only when I re-watched I saw that. I have watched the episodes twice over now. Back on the third watch”

I've just watched episodes 1 -3 back to back.

I do have a question though. Sam is asking why he can't go back to normal duties - this is after the fire of course but I can't be sure which timeline. He us told that what he did was a cry for help.

So what did he do? Or is he yet to do it?
treefr0g
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by rubyred25:
“bbciplayer views must be sky high I missed the little boy who spotted the camper van in switzerland.. Only when I re-watched I saw that. I have watched the episodes twice over now. Back on the third watch”

The first time I saw that scene, as the camera zoomed in to the wheel arch of the van, I found myself leaning forward towards the TV to get a closer look and thinking 'Is that blood? Is that human hair?'

I totally missed the yellow paint
fridgesoup
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by linfran:
“I've just watched episodes 1 -3 back to back.

I do have a question though. Sam is asking why he can't go back to normal duties - this is after the fire of course but I can't be sure which timeline. He us told that what he did was a cry for help.

So what did he do? Or is he yet to do it? ”

We don't know yet.
Aurora13
11-11-2016
I think writers have brought together two situations here. Abduction and state cover -up sexual crime.


Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“I'll post my detailed theories later but I think in concept what we have here is sociopath being 'allowed' to conduct his crimes due to an earlier state (military) cover-up. If only he had been bought to book in 1991 the girls would have been spared.”

I agree with this.

Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
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I'm increasingly thinking that Gettrick was a lone wolf regarding the abductions and Stone and Henry were being held to ransom because of what happened in Iraq (Gettrick might or might not have been the third man in that episode). If they were pressured into helping Gettrick when 'Alice' had appendicitis and had to be released, perhaps Henry refused and threatened to expose Gettrick. He would go down too (because of Iraq), but maybe he just couldn't live with the guilt and the lies any more and thought saving or helping the girl(s) would provide some degree of redemption. :”

As for other directions I think we are getting from show.

Sam - he clearly can't keep it in his trousers and he admitted that he wasn't always a good man. Suspect his crime is that he has fathered child(ren) whilst in army. What does Matthew know?

Eve - the surrogacy storyline is about children being brought up by other families. You've now got Eve pregnant by Sam. Not the first colleague he got pregnant.

Gettrick is very obviously the sociopath and he abducted the girls. Why those particular girls? He has a type but were they adopted privately via Army cover - up of sexual activity in combat arena? The mother who committed suicide has bright ginger hair! Was he involved in placing Lena with a family he knew before he then abducted her. There is a reason why reference was only made to Sam DNA being tested.

Is Nadia bringing up the Downs syndrome lad as he couldn't be privately adopted.?

Iraq- suspect crime was committed by Gettrick but other two Stone and Reed were accomplices and / or covered up.

Lena is the body in the shed. Sophie is in Switzerland. Alice is still in basement.

Unlike last series I do think Alice is going to be found alive. The chances of finding Ollie last series was nil if not found in first few hours as Baptiste said in his opening lines. This series they have gone for teenage girls who have been found years later. They seem to be taking various real life kidnapping stories and melding them into this story.
Aurora13
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by linfran:
“I've just watched episodes 1 -3 back to back.

I do have a question though. Sam is asking why he can't go back to normal duties - this is after the fire of course but I can't be sure which timeline. He us told that what he did was a cry for help.

So what did he do? Or is he yet to do it? ”

Fire happened Christmas 2014. Sam is asking question in summer 2016. He says 'event' with Matthew that led to him being taken off normal duties happened a few months previous.
treefr0g
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“Fire happened Christmas 2014. Sam is asking question in summer 2016. He says 'event' with Matthew that led to him being taken off normal duties happened a few months previous.”

That's the one frustrating thing about the two timelines. I quite often find myself thinking 'Have I missed a bit, or has it not happened yet?'.

You'll never know unless you watch it all again

I'm contemplating a third viewing
fridgesoup
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by treefr0g:
“That's the one frustrating thing about the two timelines. I quite often find myself thinking 'Have I missed a bit, or has it not happened yet?'.”

I follow it just fine as I watch it, but then trying to hold any kind of coherent sequence of events in my head a day later is a nightmare. Fortunately, there's usually someone here who can remember the bit I can't
treefr0g
11-11-2016
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“I follow it just fine as I watch it, but then trying to hold any kind of coherent sequence of events in my head a day later is a nightmare. Fortunately, there's usually someone here who can remember the bit I can't ”

I feel that I'm following it and then I think of something like 'When did Gemma start looking at the rollercoaster photos? Has she been looking at them for two years? Was the scene where she went to the cemetery with Mathew in the past or present?'

That's where iPlayer is a Godsend.

Sadly, episode 1 is only on there for another 17 days so by my calculations will not be available after the last episode is aired.
Davina's Labia
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by treefr0g:
“Sadly, episode 1 is only on there for another 17 days so by my calculations will not be available after the last episode is aired. ”

You beat me to it! I was just going to say, this really annoyed me in Series 1. By the time episode 7 was broadcast, episode 1 was gone from iPlayer because of their 6 week cycle.

This was annoying not only for clue spotting purposes in the build up to the climax, but I'm sure many people would have liked to rewatch episode 1 through the prism of hindsight after all had been revealed in episode 8.

I don't know why The Missing doesn't get the special Box Set treatment on iPlayer (exempt from the 6 week cycle) like the vastly inferior Thirteen did.
WWFC_93
12-11-2016
Who was the French guys source?
fridgesoup
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by WWFC_93:
“Who was the French guys source?”

Babiste or journalist French guy?
Imogen_Richards
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Davina's Labia:
“You beat me to it! I was just going to say, this really annoyed me in Series 1. By the time episode 7 was broadcast, episode 1 was gone from iPlayer because of their 6 week cycle.

This was annoying not only for clue spotting purposes in the build up to the climax, but I'm sure many people would have liked to rewatch episode 1 through the prism of hindsight after all had been revealed in episode 8.

I don't know why The Missing doesn't get the special Box Set treatment on iPlayer (exempt from the 6 week cycle) like the vastly inferior Thirteen did.”

Why not just record each episode?
treefr0g
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Imogen_Richards:
“Why not just record each episode?”

In hindsight that would have been a good idea
WWFC_93
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“Babiste or journalist French guy?”

I don't think Baptiste would have spoken to the media.
fridgesoup
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Imogen_Richards:
“Why not just record each episode?”

Some people watch on iPlayer; some people watch live on the telly and don't have a PVR; and some of us record it, watch it and delete before realising how good it's going to be and that we need all the episodes to keep going back to!!
Davina's Labia
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Imogen_Richards:
“Why not just record each episode?”

Because I didn't know at the beginning how engrossing it was going to be. Although I did manage to resort to other means *cough* Pirate Bay *cough* to rewatch episodes 1 and 2.
fridgesoup
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by WWFC_93:
“I don't think Baptiste would have spoken to the media.”

I was asking you which of the two french guys you were asking about.

I see now you meant the journalist. We don't know who tipped him off. Speculation is, that it was Gettrick.
WWFC_93
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“I was asking you which of the two french guys you were asking about.

I see now you meant the journalist. We don't know who tipped him off. Speculation is, that it was Gettrick.”

Ohhh sorry haha.

And I guess that makes sense; I don't see who else the source could have been.
treefr0g
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by WurzelSpy:
“IPlayer to the rescue again - so he did !

As a side issue does anyone know how audience statistics are calculated for watching online? If everyone on this thread has checked back as often as i have and each visit is counted separately then the viewing figures for this series are going to be astronomical .”

I think this series has probably seen record streaming figures. I was late to the party and had the luxury of watching episodes 1-4 back to back and then watched them all again.

I've probably used iPlayer more in the last couple of weeks than I had in the last five years.

2,570 posts on a thread for a series that is only on episode 5 is also quite phenomenal.
Flowes
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“Some people watch on iPlayer; some people watch live on the telly and don't have a PVR; and some of us record it, watch it and delete before realising how good it's going to be and that we need all the episodes to keep going back to!! ”

I can recover deleted shows, I thought most equipment these days was the same
fridgesoup
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“I can recover deleted shows, I thought most equipment these days was the same”

Not mine, sadly.
dippydancing
12-11-2016
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“Some people watch on iPlayer; some people watch live on the telly and don't have a PVR; and some of us record it, watch it and delete before realising how good it's going to be and that we need all the episodes to keep going back to!! ”

And yet more live on a knife edge of <20% space left on their Sky+ Planner and have to keep deleting stuff which becomes an exercise in Sophie's Choice.

Originally Posted by Flowes:
“I can recover deleted shows, I thought most equipment these days was the same”

Really? Even an 8yo Sky+ Box? *said with whiny voice and hopeful/pleading eyes*
jenni talia
12-11-2016
I think Gettrick has been grooming Lena and Alice throughout their childhood, thus would explain their bunking off school, troubled, going off the rails etc. I can't figure how Sophie fits in, maybe her father or mother were previously connected the military in some form? Gettrick may have been a good looking younger man, probably sweet talking and charismatic. Alice seemed a bit mature for her age, groomed? I don't think Alice was alarmed when the van pulled up, she may have planned to meet up with him, what I don't think she expected was to be clubbed and thrown in the back (I'm sure you can hear a thud when she turns, then we see her legs) and then locked away for 11 years.
I still can't stop thinking that she was in a graveyard 3 hours before a skeleton was found in the shed - coincidences are Gods way of remaining anonymous'. I don't think Henry Reed had anything to do with Alice/Sophie, I think it was necessary for her to be there, so flowers were a good cover.
There does seem to be a lack of army wives, what happened to Henry's wife? Stone's wife? And Gettrick?
And all the 3s - when talking to Sam, Stone said to him something like 'we lost 3 souls out there... The 3 who committed the atrocity?
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