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The Missing- Series 2
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fredster
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by Johnny 99:
“According to IMDB he's only in the first two episodes.



As for my thoughts, had no problem with the timelines but thought the scenes were too quick and they tried to cram too much in. I can take Morrissey having the affair, but didn't think there was any need to give Baptiste the brain tumour, and also thought it was a bit silly with the money and then getting told the guy didn't want to take him but the original guy would.

Also thought the bit at the end with the girl opening her eyes was a bit silly, almost as if they're gonna go down the route most dramas do and become just another run of the mill series that gets too clever for it's own good, if that makes sense?

Will watch next week cos I love Hawes and Morrissey, I just hope it keeps me gripped till the end.”

I shall watch it through, I loved the first "Missing" and "One of us". So tonight am going to rewatch Wednesdays Missing and look for all the clues given on here.My Next 7 Wednesday evenings are sorted.
Sclark78
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jim_Riley:
“Here's some evidence that the girl who returns isn't Alice.

Photo 1: - Alice Webster's tattoo when her little brother meets her outside the playground. Alice's tattoo is clearly on the inside of her left arm.

Photo 2: The girl in the ambulance: the camera pans down from her face to show a nurse holding her left arm. Her tattoo has moved; to the outside of her left arm. Slightly different design too.

The girl in the Ambulance is not Alice Webster (unless it's a continuity error)

Photo 1

Photo 2”

It's her. Why would the parents recognise her otherwise? I think it's her.
Flowes
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jim_Riley:
“Here's some evidence that the girl who returns isn't Alice.

Photo 1: - Alice Webster's tattoo when her little brother meets her outside the playground. Alice's tattoo is clearly on the inside of her left arm.

Photo 2: The girl in the ambulance: the camera pans down from her face to show a nurse holding her left arm. Her tattoo has moved; to the outside of her left arm. Slightly different design too.

The girl in the Ambulance is not Alice Webster (unless it's a continuity error)

Photo 1

Photo 2”

Isnt it a given that DNA tests would have been done before the parents were told its Alice? Surely otherwise any random could come forward and claim to be the missing girl, it's clear it was a high profile case at the time.

I really don't get the speculation about it not being Alice. There was so much speculation in Missing 1 which is what I believe led to so many being disappointed with the ending because the ending wasn't as explosive as the speculation.

I hope speculation doesn't overshadow this series.

I personally thought the ending in the first series was realistic and believable.
PunksNotDead
14-10-2016
Too much speculation in here kinda ruins the series.
Kat 68
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“Isnt it a given that DNA tests would have been done before the parents were told its Alice? Surely otherwise any random could come forward and claim to be the missing girl, it's clear it was a high profile case at the time.

I really don't get the speculation about it not being Alice. There was so much speculation in Missing 1 which is what I believe led to so many being disappointed with the ending because the ending wasn't as explosive as the speculation.

I hope speculation doesn't overshadow this series.

I personally thought the ending in the first series was realistic and believable.”

DNA tests aren't always done surprisingly in cases like this, though obviously I'm aware this is fiction. There is a real life story documented in the film "The Imposter" where a missing child is reunited with his family several years after going missing. Missing child was American, person that came forward was French(!!) but family still took him in believing him to be their son! No DNA was ever taken. He even had different colour eyes along with the French accent. Very disturbing film, definitely worth a watch.
Flowes
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by Kat 68:
“DNA tests aren't always done surprisingly in cases like this, though obviously I'm aware this is fiction. There is a real life story documented in the film "The Imposter" where a missing child is reunited with his family several years after going missing. Missing child was American, person that came forward was French(!!) but family still took him in believing him to be their son! No DNA was ever taken. He even had different colour eyes along with the French accent. Very disturbing film, definitely worth a watch.”

This series would be leaving itself open to criticism if they hadn't factually confirmed her ID.

The boy in the film was missing for about three years - 'The Imposter" had a history of impersonating people.
Dreamer27
14-10-2016
I can't imagine she's going to turn out not to be Alice, purely due to the fact of how distinctive looking the actress is. Surely you'd recognise those eyes or recognise they are not the eyes of your child.
RichmondBlue
14-10-2016
Originally Posted by PunksNotDead:
“Too much speculation in here kinda ruins the series.”

Really ? All the speculation on DS during the last series added to my enjoyment. There were some pretty wild theories, but that was all part of the fun in my opinion. As long as it is genuine speculation of course, and nobody gets hold of any real spoilers.
dippydancing
15-10-2016
Originally Posted by KennyT:
“I'm not 100% certain so i'll put it in a spoiler but....

Spoiler
if you compare the positions of the tattoos from the first scene and when "Alice" is in hospital when her parents visit, i think they're in a different position along her arm?


But it could be that it's just a tiny continuity error!

K”

Originally Posted by Jim_Riley:
“Here's some evidence that the girl who returns isn't Alice.

Photo 1: - Alice Webster's tattoo when her little brother meets her outside the playground. Alice's tattoo is clearly on the inside of her left arm.

Photo 2: The girl in the ambulance: the camera pans down from her face to show a nurse holding her left arm. Her tattoo has moved; to the outside of her left arm. Slightly different design too.

The girl in the Ambulance is not Alice Webster (unless it's a continuity error)

Photo 1

Photo 2”

Unfortunately the pics can't be accessed now so I can't see what you're seeing, but I too went back to check, and they looked pretty similar to me, with any differences being down to it being two different actresses.
That said- I think casting did an excellent job in finding two such similar looking actresses, so much so that I checked to see if they were sisters. But having two different actresses makes a simple and effective way of introducing doubt, instead of using just one actress and either making her look older or younger.

I'm wondering if the fact that young Alice was behaving in a potentially reclusive way -bunking off school, self-tattooing at the age of 11- is supposed to hint that she was already unhappy, and if so- why. I mean, tattoos are common now, but not at 11 and done by oneself. And not of webs. Not with all their ominous connotations of feeling trapped, snared, caught etc

Apologies if this has already been said- I've read most but not all of the thread so far.


Originally Posted by Mitu_Pappi:
“Series 1 was a big let down. It was never an abduction just a stupid accident as a child followed a frigging fox onto the road. Thats how much of a let down it was.”

Series 1 was the abduction-that-never-happened. Series 2 is here to satisfy those cravings -twofold.
Lab
15-10-2016
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“Unfortunately the pics can't be accessed now so I can't see what you're seeing, but I too went back to check, and they looked pretty similar to me, with any differences being down to it being two different actresses.
That said- I think casting did an excellent job in finding two such similar looking actresses, so much so that I checked to see if they were sisters. But having two different actresses makes a simple and effective way of introducing doubt, instead of using just one actress and either making her look older or younger.

I'm wondering if the fact that young Alice was behaving in a potentially reclusive way -bunking off school, self-tattooing at the age of 11- is supposed to hint that she was already unhappy, and if so- why. I mean, tattoos are common now, but not at 11. And not of webs. Not with all their ominous connotations of feeling trapped, snared, caught etc

Apologies if this has already been said- I've read most but not all of the thread so far.




Series 1 was the abduction-that-never-happened. Series 2 is here to satisfy those cravings -twofold. ”

BIB I just presumed the web tattoo was a play of words on her surname, Webster.

As for the positioning of the tattoo, she was a young girl when she did it, 12 years later her skin will have grown, stretched, etc. So it's not inconceivable it's position will have changed.
Soul Siesta
15-10-2016
Originally Posted by RecordPlayer:
“Sensible advice, especially after all the red herrings and disappointing ending of the last series. ”

I didn't think the ending was disappointing last time. I think it showed how easy it is to lose a small child if you take your eyes off them for a minute. The mystery was because people knew what happened to him and covered it up. I'm thinking of Ben Needham who probably wandered off too poor little boy.
Mitu_Pappi
15-10-2016
Julien is demonstrably a failed detective. The first non abduction was only resolved by a frigging death bed confession. So much for his detective skills.

And this time of all places in France for another abduction it happens again in his jurisdiction. Fat lot of good that will be to resolve this case this time. Atleast this time he is retired but i hoped his superiors in the french police would have concluded that he is the last person to allocate a missing persons enquiry to. He just doesnt cut the mustard.

It doesnt help that BBC have shown his addict daughter is living in his home. Lots of useless time was wasted on her in series 1. She was nothing to the story and neither was his wife. Expect a lot of useless padding in the next 8 episodes. The money drawn from bank and chase around backstreets was a good clue to the mindset of the producers of the show. There will be a lot of nonsense for 8 weeks.
Kat 68
15-10-2016
Originally Posted by Mitu_Pappi:
“Julien is demonstrably a failed detective. The first non abduction was only resolved by a frigging death bed confession. So much for his detective skills.

And this time of all places in France for another abduction it happens again in his jurisdiction. Fat lot of good that will be to resolve this case this time. Atleast this time he is retired but i hoped his superiors in the french police would have concluded that he is the last person to allocate a missing persons enquiry to. He just doesnt cut the mustard.

It doesnt help that BBC have shown his addict daughter is living in his home. Lots of useless time was wasted on her in series 1. She was nothing to the story and neither was his wife. Expect a lot of useless padding in the next 8 episodes. The money drawn from bank and chase around backstreets was a good clue to the mindset of the producers of the show. There will be a lot of nonsense for 8 weeks.”

Some of us don't mind the nonsense.
Anne_Cameron
15-10-2016
I didn't notice the positioning of the web tattoos, but I did wonder when the Mother was spending time looking at the childhood photos in the album. It was as if she too had niggling doubts about the girl and whether or not she was their daughter,
Callum Collum
15-10-2016
Originally Posted by Kat 68:
“Some of us don't mind the nonsense.”

Some at least of the 'nonsense' could be seen as fleshing out the characters.

I must admit to being a bit baffled by the market 'chase' and, if nothing more is done with that, it would be a decidedly lame part of a generally very good episode.
Topcat1976
15-10-2016
Originally Posted by Lab:
“BIB I just presumed the web tattoo was a play of words on her surname, Webster.

As for the positioning of the tattoo, she was a young girl when she did it, 12 years later her skin will have grown, stretched, etc. So it's not inconceivable it's position will have changed.”

I have just watched on catch up, and this was the first thing to hit me, I feel the tattoo will have moved - as birth marks do when children grow. But the web was very strange for a girl to tattoo onto herself, given her name, I feel she was giving herself a reminder of who she actually is/was, not many people self tattoo without having some idea in their head of why they are deciding on a particular design.

I think she was brainwashed and it started before the abduction, if in-fact she was abducted - this we didn't see, she was obviously walking somewhere and clearly knew where the break in the fence was, she had done it before, she in my opinion knew the person and where she was heading.

Look forward to the next show
Rosie Red
15-10-2016
I did get confused with the timeline switches.

Is Sam now with the army woman, or having an affair...was that bit clarified?
Andy-B
15-10-2016
Just catching up with this - well, that had as many twists and as much web weaving as you'd want in under an hour

Fwiw, I hate it when people say "X is only in it for 2 episodes" - it's a childish spoiler. End of.

Quite a lot to digest. I guess the woman in Aldi's carpark is at least partly responsible for 'Alice's' death ..
Andy-B
15-10-2016
Originally Posted by Kat 68:
“I'm 49 and I followed it perfectly. Don't really understand people's confusion. It is a programme that requires full attention or you will definitely miss something.”

In the words of the master, David Simon "F**k the average viewer" e.g If you're not invested enough to give it your complete attention ... oh well.

And this is only BBC 1 drama...
Kat 68
15-10-2016
Originally Posted by Andy-B:
“Just catching up with this - well, that had as many twists and as much web weaving as you'd want in under an hour

Fwiw, I hate it when people say "X is only in it for 2 episodes" - it's a childish spoiler. End of.

Quite a lot to digest. I guess the woman in Aldi's carpark is at least partly responsible for 'Alice's' death ..”

Agree totally- hate it when people spoil it by insisting they tell us how many episodes a person is in it for. If I wish to know then I'm more than capable of looking it up for myself.
Mitu_Pappi
15-10-2016
Who was the actor Cela Yildiz playing as in this series. Deleted rest
Mitu_Pappi
15-10-2016
Spoiler
some photos of the shoot . Very very revealing. https://www.facebook.com/Cela.Yildiz.Page/
Mitu_Pappi
15-10-2016
Warning. The above spoiler could cause unnecessary turmoil in some people. Do not click unless you want to know more of what will happen in future episodes. You have been warned.
Andy-B
15-10-2016
Don't give us that nonsense ..

Clicking on it is only half the problem; then some people are absolutely desperate to let you know they know something. And so the series gets spoiled anyway.

Basically, you're as attention seeking and pathetic as they are
Mitu_Pappi
15-10-2016
My bad i didnt see the no spoilers mentioned in the thread title in bold print
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