So did I, that's why she then put it in the drawer and not the bin. Why would she go to put a present day scan picture in the bin?

Actually I found that very helpful.

Hmmm maybe. I thought she had a little baby bump when she was in the kitchen looking at the baby scan and she was debating whether to tell him or not.

Hmm I posted that as a guide, not just for you, but anyone who found it a bit confusing.

Is there anyone who isn't rude here? Lol.

lol I was only pulling yer leg.

My solution

Alice who escaped is actually Sophie Giroux, thats why she said the name when she was delirious with appendix problems.

She did not escape but was allowed to go and get treatment by her captor.

Captor was the older black man who killed himself when Alice Giroux died after setting herself on fire.

Black mans soldier son knows of the kidnappings and was part of it.

Alice and Sophie have/had Stockholms syndrome and love their captors. Thats why Sophie did not reveal the man was black in the photofit and lied that he had a german accent.

The baby died somehow.
I bloody love this series, the first one was brilliant. Don't understand how people get so confused with the timeline! It's easy to follow, the storyline less so at the moment. Can't wait to see what happens next.

I think the big guy with the beard who is going to drive Baptiste to wherever he is going is cute.....is there something wrong with me !!!

As for the rest..... talk about confused.com !


Comments:

Re any suggestion that girl rescued is actually missing girl 1 and not Alice, It would be understandable if over the course of eleven years together talking about their families, girl 1 would learn everything about Alice's family. She may even have scratched out an identical tattoo while they were together as a bonding or support thing between them. But it's then scuppered totally by 1. DNA which would prove any lies instantly 2. Surely Baptiste who worked the first case so carefully would say something if he saw too strong a resemblence to girl 1. 3. The idea that both girls looked remarkably like each other anyway would have been mentioned already, even as a coincidence.

Obviously we have a fire coming up which explains dad's scars and may even be the incident in which Alice "dies". How he ends up shagging the army bird....well Lord knows ! Obviously something sad happens to her baby ... perhaps they bonded over loss of child grief !!

I remember watching a movie recently where girls were abducted and held in a celler together by "daddy" .... a sort of Stockholm syndrome thingy occurred and they all ended up looking up to "daddy". The whole point of their capture was to get pregnant and produce lots and lots of babies to "daddy" who was running a baby selling racket to rich couples. I wonder if something similar is going on here.

I'm not rude, I'm very grateful to those who simplify things like this for me.
Thank you Paul237 and everyone else

He looks like Orson Wells.

All sounds very plausible were it not for DNA ! Wouldn't that put paid to any deception in two minutes flat. A girl re-appears after eleven years, the first thing they are going to do is test her DNA as absolute proof.

Seems a bit implausible that her parents wouldn't know straight away that it wasn't their daughter. But great first episode. Definitely sticking with it.

Same here.

Thanks for the guide . I found it helpful . Still confused about the scan photo/ baby bump mind you !

Me too, I hadn't spotted the different hair length and I only noticed David Morrissey with scars, not without.
Give me something I can follow, like Poldark! I will be back though, try again to make sense of it all.....

I tend to agree I know it could be taken literally or metaphorically but i tend to think he was speaking metaphorically and yes that she was so changed /damaged by her ordeal she was not the same person she had been before she was kidnapped i.e so the real Alice Webster may physically have come back but mentally/emotionally she was not the same person.

I think the series is of to a great start but i just hope Baptiste is somehow going to survive at least for a while despite his brain tumour as i love his character.

Why don;t people just let a drama unfold a bit before getting confused?

in my view, he didn't mean literally.

Off to a great start 😀

Well I find if I loose the gist this week I will spend next week trying to find it and then loose the gist of next week . Etc etc

Good call. I like that theory.

Oh excellent theory ! Sounds very plausible.

Timeline is too confusing I can't watch because I don't know what is happening or WHEN it is happening.

That was very chilling! Especially that last line. Stuff of nightmares.

Personally I didn't find it confusing at all, I enjoyed it.

I feel like Alice Webster (adult) is the same girl, returned after her kidnap. The ending with Baptiste's comments about it not being her and the ominous shot of her opening her eyes in the dark are just a red herring to keep viewers guessing, I think his comment was just metaphorical as was mentioned earlier. We saw Gemma (the mother) in the clip for next week saying she feels she is different from her daughter, so I think she has changed due to her kidnap, perhaps Stockholm syndrome.

We know that she dies just before Christmas (the 22nd) so we will see how she dies in the 2014 timeline (as we know it's near to Christmas day what with the tree being up in the home).

Regarding the father and the affair, I do think it is the sergeant woman who is pregnant in the 2014 timeline, but we are given the impression she lost the baby perhaps (given how she tucks away the scan into the drawer) - even though it's two year later, I don't feel like it's a second pregnancy with the father. I also don't think it's a surrogate situation, it may be, but I think the loss of the child will probably be linked to events in the plot - something may happen involving the characters, maybe there is a fire which causes her to lose the baby and the father rescues her (while burning his body and face) which starts the affair?

The woman being harassed by the brother in the 2016 timeline in the Aldi carpark is the same woman we saw in the scene with the young black soldier, they are connected (as is his deceased father) as Baptiste is searching for the soldier and the brother clearly has it in for her, but we're not given enough information yet about that.

As for Sophie, I'm assuming the 2016 timeline is largely about Baptiste's search for her (is she still alive?) I think this storyline could be his personal redemption for not solving the case in the previous series. Baptiste also has Gemma searching images for somebody (kidnapper? Sophie/Alice during their kidnap period (being taken to a theme park by their kidnapper? (Stockholm syndrome!) we don't know yet) but I'm sure more will be revealed next week

Sensible advice, especially after all the red herrings and disappointing ending of the last series.