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The Missing- Series 2
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dippydancing
02-11-2016
Oh- and also glad to see a another image this episode from the opening titles: the fairground carousel.
andersonsonson
02-11-2016
There was a red VW beetle in a previous episode which had a British number plate, yet theyre in Germany...
dippydancing
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by andersonsonson:
“I'm sorry but you can't say 100% the girl in the bar was the same actress who was shown to be burned in the shed.

They look similar but it wasn't a clear shot”

But it's entirely in keeping with how all the previous episodes ended on a big reveal which turned out to be true.
Flowes
02-11-2016
We haven't been told about a third girl having been missing for years....
conchie
02-11-2016
The mum seemed to finally accept it was the real Alice in the fire and was full of emotion when the DNA tests finally came through. That being the case, what changed her mind again to believe it was not Alice as in present day she is going through photographs and declaring the second girl on the roller coaster her real daughter. And when she went to see what's her name... army bird to talk to her about this..... she didn't say to her... what are you talking about..... she seemed to be going along with her theory as well and was anxious to help her. So... what happened to change the "reality" of 2014 when the DNA seemed to confirm Alice was really dead.

Body in shed was proven to be genetic child of the dad.... but is it too obvious to think it was the real Alice. This is the sort of series that thrives on the big twist.... so safe bet to think there is a chance the real Alice is still out there somewhere.

Flowers on the grave of dead army man..... was it done out of kindness because even though he was involved, he was decent in the end and released "Alice" to get medical help when she had appendicitis. He was then killed by whoever for letting her out in the first place and made to look like a suicide. He seems to be proven to have had something of a conscience as a person as he was paying the guy in the Middle East out of guilt because of something that happened his sister.

Out of interest who was army girl's child's dad..... was that ever gone into. Can't think any more.. my brain is fried trying to figure it all out !
dippydancing
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by iamian:
“The 3rd girl, sitting behind looks more Levantine in complexion so are we to believe she's related to Mirza Barzani?”

Excellent use of the word "Levantine"

Personally, I thought that -beneath the glasses- she looked rather like "Alice".

I'm feeling that either the abductors keep abducting girls who fit a physical type, or they're all related by covert means.

Maybe Sam's been unfaithful far & wide, or he's been a sperm donor, or there were triplets born to someone. Who knows.
dippydancing
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by conchie:
“The mum seemed to finally accept it was the real Alice in the fire and was full of emotion when the DNA tests finally came through. That being the case, what changed her mind again to believe it was not Alice as in present day she is going through photographs and declaring the second girl on the roller coaster her real daughter. And when she went to see what's her name... army bird to talk to her about this..... she didn't say to her... what are you talking about..... she seemed to be going along with her theory as well and was anxious to help her. So... what happened to change the "reality" of 2014 when the DNA seemed to confirm Alice was really dead.

Body in shed was proven to be genetic child of the dad.... but is it too obvious to think it was the real Alice. This is the sort of series that thrives on the big twist.... so safe bet to think there is a chance the real Alice is still out there somewhere.

Flowers on the grave of dead army man..... was it done out of kindness because even though he was involved, he was decent in the end and released "Alice" to get medical help when she had appendicitis. He was then killed by whoever for letting her out in the first place and made to look like a suicide. He seems to be proven to have had something of a conscience as a person as he was paying the guy in the Middle East out of guilt because of something that happened his sister.

Out of interest who was army girl's child's dad..... was that ever gone into. Can't think any more.. my brain is fried trying to figure it all out !”

Nope- I've been wondering that too.
martin2345uk
02-11-2016
I thought Sam was implied to be the dad but could be wrong!
RecordPlayer
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mitu_Pappi:
“No significance of rolling stones. Just a bumbling waiter trying to impress a young girl by throwing iconic names about.”

Not a hint to Brigadier Stone then? lol
dippydancing
02-11-2016
Oh- and another recap but from Den of Geek this time.

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/the-m...review-statice
iamian
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by conchie:
“The mum seemed to finally accept it was the real Alice in the fire and was full of emotion when the DNA tests finally came through. That being the case, what changed her mind again to believe it was not Alice as in present day she is going through photographs and declaring the second girl on the roller coaster her real daughter. And when she went to see what's her name... army bird to talk to her about this..... she didn't say to her... what are you talking about..... she seemed to be going along with her theory as well and was anxious to help her. So... what happened to change the "reality" of 2014 when the DNA seemed to confirm Alice was really dead.

Body in shed was proven to be genetic child of the dad.... but is it too obvious to think it was the real Alice. This is the sort of series that thrives on the big twist.... so safe bet to think there is a chance the real Alice is still out there somewhere.

Flowers on the grave of dead army man..... was it done out of kindness because even though he was involved, he was decent in the end and released "Alice" to get medical help when she had appendicitis. He was then killed by whoever for letting her out in the first place and made to look like a suicide. He seems to be proven to have had something of a conscience as a person as he was paying the guy in the Middle East out of guilt because of something that happened his sister.
”

A post which has helped crystallize my thoughts.
Gemma only hears "DNA match" not the details and as Eve callously walks off she doesn't have any time to sit and be comforted and listen again to what Eve said. Even Eve may not have realized the significance of her words. (always assuming that the audience are not being fooled here.)

Perhaps later something does crop up to make her doubt or maybe it just gnaws away inside her.
andersonsonson
02-11-2016
Sam was away with army when Alice was born and had another child, thats why the dna matched
WWFC_93
02-11-2016
So the girl in Switzerland is allowed to go out on her own?
iamian
02-11-2016
Gemma and Sam both accept the girl who returns is Alice, even if Gemma subsequently has doubts. Therefore there must have been a close physical resemblance.
So do we know whether the girl in the Swiss café is Alice, Sophie, the third girl or perhaps someone else?

After this evening's episode I'm wondering if the lack of a striking resemblance of Alice and Sophie in the rollercoaster picture is now forgotten as the focus has quite literally fallen on the third girl.
iamian
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by WWFC_93:
“So the girl in Switzerland is allowed to go out on her own?”

Some would say that she escaped from Ettingen having substituted a body in the shed and is living a new life in Switzerland, free from any family history.
Myself, I am not so sure.
WWFC_93
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by iamian:
“Some would say that she escaped from Ettingen having substituted a body in the shed and is living a new life in Switzerland, free from any family history.
Myself, I am not so sure.”

Do you mean Eckhausen? Also how would the other body have got in the shed? Wasn't she locked in?
andersonsonson
02-11-2016
Wasn't the campervan and dog also in Switzerland...
WWFC_93
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by andersonsonson:
“Wasn't the campervan and dog also in Switzerland...”

Yes it was in the same place.
dippydancing
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by andersonsonson:
“Wasn't the campervan and dog also in Switzerland...”

Yep- they used the same establishing aerial shot of mountains & forests for the red campervan bit and the cafe scene.
I took it to mean that whoever that young woman is that's sitting in the Swiss cafe is also living out of -or driving- the now red campervan.
RecordPlayer
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by iamian:
“A post which has helped crystallize my thoughts.
Gemma only hears "DNA match" not the details and as Eve callously walks off she doesn't have any time to sit and be comforted and listen again to what Eve said. Even Eve may not have realized the significance of her words. (always assuming that the audience are not being fooled here.)
[b]
Perhaps later something does crop up to make her doubt or maybe it just gnaws away inside her
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Something must have triggered her suspicions again, to make her look through the roller coaster photos (looking for Alice) even after she was told the DNA test result.

It'll come down to that neckclace again. Gemma will recognise it on the 3rd girl in the photo. and wonder how it got onto 'Alice's' body in the shed
MargMck
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by conchie:
“The mum seemed to finally accept it was the real Alice in the fire and was full of emotion when the DNA tests finally came through. That being the case, what changed her mind again to believe it was not Alice as in present day she is going through photographs and declaring the second girl on the roller coaster her real daughter. And when she went to see what's her name... army bird to talk to her about this..... she didn't say to her... what are you talking about..... she seemed to be going along with her theory as well and was anxious to help her. So... what happened to change the "reality" of 2014 when the DNA seemed to confirm Alice was really dead.

Body in shed was proven to be genetic child of the dad.... but is it too obvious to think it was the real Alice. This is the sort of series that thrives on the big twist.... so safe bet to think there is a chance the real Alice is still out there somewhere.

Flowers on the grave of dead army man..... was it done out of kindness because even though he was involved, he was decent in the end and released "Alice" to get medical help when she had appendicitis. He was then killed by whoever for letting her out in the first place and made to look like a suicide. He seems to be proven to have had something of a conscience as a person as he was paying the guy in the Middle East out of guilt because of something that happened his sister.

Out of interest who was army girl's child's dad..... was that ever gone into. Can't think any more.. my brain is fried trying to figure it all out !”

I think it was the army boss Stone who killed him for helping her escape. The 'Alice' clearly disliked him.
cedricthedog
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by andersonsonson:
“There was a red VW beetle in a previous episode which had a British number plate, yet theyre in Germany...”

Forces personnel cars used to have BFG ("British Forces in Germany") plates which were white on black and followed the format of 2 letters, three numbers and a letter at the end, so something like AB 123B. Can't remember if the last letter changed with the year, but the system was dropped many moons ago when cars were potentially at threat from terrorists, at which point they just used to carry regular UK plates, and thus could have just been holidaymakers abroad etc rather than being obviously members of the Forces or their families
Allison_Green
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by damianswife:
“Dammit, I will have to work out that anagram now and I am cr*p at the Blimmin things too



Edited to add...got it in under 5 minutes!!!”

Ha cool, I never knew that! When there's an S & X in the name, the rest was easy to work out!
Davina's Labia
02-11-2016
Originally Posted by RecordPlayer:
“Wouldn't Gemma be produced with a document stating the DNA results? She just took Eve's word for it.”

I'm glad I'm not the only one who picked up on that - I found it highly suspicious. The viewer also has has nothing but Eve's word for it, plus a brief phonecall she answered from an unknown caller to which she answered "alright, thanks for letting me know" before passing the news to Gemma.

It's entirely consistent with "Operation Fake Alice" that the puppet master at the top of this chain would ensure false information was given to Gemma to perpetrate the lie that Sophie was Alice.

I still think it was Sophie who died in the fire, in an unassisted suicide.

It all comes down to whether you believe someone else's body was somehow carried or dragged across the Websters' garden and into the shed, with the considerable risk of Sam, Gemma or Matthew seeing it from the windows of the house. I'm just not having that; I think the true story, when it's revealed, will be grounded in realism not absurdity.
appledash
03-11-2016
Originally Posted by martin2345uk:
“He says "I know you killed that girl" then the policeman turns around... but with these trailers you never know if two unconnected scenes have been spliced together as a red herring!”

" I know you killed that girl " scene - behind baptiste there is a chair , the kind you would get in a nursing home/ hospital SO I'm guessing he's talking to brigadier stone who I believe is faking dementia ! Will look very creepy if he breaks character to say prove it !
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