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Old 17-10-2016, 23:21
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Interesting to see the track at #5 in Thailand (right next to a new kpop track I recognize, heh.) Could be a new territory for them to look at. It's got a bigger population than the UK and a lot of foreign Korean groups are able to play major shows there, it's pretty much the most consistent territory for them outside Japan/China.
Speaking of Japan, I just noticed they aren't even charting in the Top200 on Itunes there.
Is it even available?

I wish they would drop Japan this time and visit other Asian countries or New Zealand instead.
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Old 17-10-2016, 23:23
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#ComeToBrazil

Honestly at this point they need to kiss some Brazilian asses for the years of support.
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Old 17-10-2016, 23:24
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i understand the similarities however, i do not think it is in danger for law suit. only the beginning of the chorus sounds like UH's middle part of the chorus. it is in different keys as well. katy did not get sued for roar and it is not as similar as that. its just petty band members looking for the cheapest promo possible and it worked it is in the top 100 right now. But all in all i don't think they will get anywhere legally or professionally. GRL was done with Simone unfortunately
Jimmy Page was in court recently for plagiarism "stairway to heaven vs Taurus" the similarity was very close but the court ruled in favor of Led Zeppelin. Grl have no chance whatsoever of winning a lawsuit.

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Old 17-10-2016, 23:32
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I like the verses, the chorus not too much. It might grow.
As a parent I do not think whatever Jesy was wearing is appropriate.
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Old 17-10-2016, 23:33
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Speaking of Japan, I just noticed they aren't even charting in the Top200 on Itunes there.
Is it even available?

I wish they would drop Japan this time and visit other Asian countries or New Zealand instead.
iTunes is irrelevant in Japan, almost everything is still physical sales. I understand why they keep pushing there - 2nd biggest market in the world and they do have a small base that seems to be at least maintaining since Salute. Plus the girls seem to just plain like traveling there. Let's see how the album sales go this era.
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Old 17-10-2016, 23:41
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How to write and angry break-up song....featuring Little MIx
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Old 17-10-2016, 23:42
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I think this single is going to be bigger than Black Magic....is that possible?
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Old 17-10-2016, 23:46
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Still mowing them down in the US. Dark green updates still. If its just buzz its lasting a while.

11 Zay Hilfigerrr & Zayion McCall - Juju on That Beat (TZ Anthem)
0.3738 0.3698
12 Little Mix - Shout Out to My Ex
0.3729 0.3622

13 Keith Urban - Blue Ain't Your Color
0.3668 0.3630
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Old 17-10-2016, 23:49
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Also the motivation for suing would be to recoup something financially, which this song has yet to prove. Wouldnt it be Dr. Luke suing? If he ever wanted to I would think Sony would step in and offer some "incentives" not to.
if they bought the right for the song GRL can too however i think they are just the performers and i dont think they or their label will have the budget or the time for that matter. the similarities being very slight as well will be against their side. if they try to sue and lost that is another cost. i am sorry to say this but right now they are insignificant. if Dr Luke wants to however is a different story but i wont worry to much abt it since the similarities are only a couple of cords
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Old 17-10-2016, 23:50
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Still mowing them down in the US. Dark green updates still. If its just buzz its lasting a while.

11 Zay Hilfigerrr & Zayion McCall - Juju on That Beat (TZ Anthem)
0.3738 0.3698
12 Little Mix - Shout Out to My Ex
0.3729 0.3622

13 Keith Urban - Blue Ain't Your Color
0.3668 0.3630
Has the US seen the X Factor performance yet?
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Old 17-10-2016, 23:53
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Has the US seen the X Factor performance yet?
No but as Nissl pointed out, AXS is a niche channel.
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Old 17-10-2016, 23:59
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Here's a Buzzfeed article on the topic
https://www.buzzfeed.com/reggieugwu/...sic-plagiarism

For a song that spent most of its life at 59p, this process sounds lengthy and expensive for what the return would be if it ever came up. So far its only in the mind of music forum fans. Its only helping SOTME by keeping it as a topic of conversation.
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Old 18-10-2016, 00:07
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I like the verses, the chorus not too much. It might grow.
As a parent I do not think whatever Jesy was wearing is appropriate.
Fair enough.

I thought they all looked hot but I must agree she was wearing the most revealing outfit out the 4 girls. But her body and legs are just incredible.
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Old 18-10-2016, 00:15
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Sorry but the more I hear Ugly Heart and SOTME - the more different they sound every time.

I honestly don't think it will be an issue.
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Old 18-10-2016, 00:17
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Fair enough.

I thought they all looked hot but I must agree she was wearing the most revealing outfit out the 4 girls. But her body and legs are just incredible.
jesy was not coveredup at all but i can understand why. she was bullied on the xfactor and it is a way of telling people that she is hot and confident the way she is.
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Old 18-10-2016, 00:19
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I like the verses, the chorus not too much. It might grow.
As a parent I do not think whatever Jesy was wearing is appropriate.
I respect your parenting decisions of course aldu but where does the line get drawn? I agree it's not appropriate for shopping in tescos but surely it's as appropriate for a dance routine as a bikini is to a sunbather or a leotard to a gymnast.
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Old 18-10-2016, 00:19
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When it comes to the US and pure sales the only thing I can think of is Beyonce. When she released Lemonade, she dominated the top 10 with songs from the album. The album was only available to stream on Tidal (still isn't on Spotify) and none of the songs were sent to radio (until later). Formation entered in at 10. So I think if they can keep this up, top 100 is POSSIBLE. If they released the music video that will put some streams in for the US
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Old 18-10-2016, 00:19
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Sorry but the more I hear Ugly Heart and SOTME - the more different they sound every time.

I honestly don't think it will be an issue.
it has a similar chord progression but that abt it it is not even the same octave and it is on the couple of the keys too
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Old 18-10-2016, 00:19
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Think it's fair to say this will be bigger than Black Magic. As it just so good. Hopefully it get's the girls their 4th #1 as the song deserves it.

Funny thing on R1 today was Greg James singing the Black Magic chorus over it It sounds like that more than Ugly Heart
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Old 18-10-2016, 00:26
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Note for Nissl: as I suspected some Our World books have already arrived because I'm seeing photos from them posted on Twitter. Since the signing is in a few days this makes sense.
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Old 18-10-2016, 00:43
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Look at the boost the GW album has gotten

64 +10 Little Mix - Get Weird (Deluxe Edition)
107 +20 Little Mix - Get Weird

Is the iTunes chart a rolling 24 or 48 hour one? Because by now if it was pure fanbase sales I would think the song would be decreasing sharply.
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Old 18-10-2016, 00:45
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They aren't listed as writers on any music repertoire database as of yet. They may say themselves they wrote it but they won't see any financial income from it without the formal registration I don't think (as writers obv)....there is always the chance it may update later.

Original registration of Grown didn't have LM as writers or Cam. So I am assuming the first version didn't have LM verses but a rework was needed and thus a new registration with more names added.

Could happen again, also if they get wind of any lawsuit situation they could always add in the creator of Ugly Heart into it as well as compensation if they feel there is a chance Team LM would lose it...or agree on the similarities....
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Old 18-10-2016, 00:47
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Note for Nissl: as I suspected some Our World books have already arrived because I'm seeing photos from them posted on Twitter. Since the signing is in a few days this makes sense.
Didn't know they had a book coming out! Nice Just went on my phone and pre-ordered off google play books since it's less clutter if the book's stored on your phone

Was thinking this today the part of the song on the TXF where Jade was walking through the audience at the start it doesn't sound like she's singing it on the studio version? Is it Perrie on the studio version?
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Old 18-10-2016, 01:31
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Is the iTunes chart a rolling 24 or 48 hour one? Because by now if it was pure fanbase sales I would think the song would be decreasing sharply.
Was 24h rolling afaik. Not sure if it might have changed at some point, such as when they launched Apple Music.

It does seem they are starting to move a little outside the realm of fanbase sales at this point. It's clicking with at least some members of the GP in the top countries, although I'm starting to see a little slippage in big countries where they don't have a big base like Canada and France.

Worth mentioning someone on another forum who correctly revealed the streaming release in the hour they went on XF also said the video will be out Friday. That would be consistent with playing for a #1 next week in the UK. In the pop realm it would be up against Gaga's Joanne although that album leaked several hours ago.
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Old 18-10-2016, 01:34
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Well its finally static in the UK although the time of day may have something to do with that.

It looks like its peaked in the US because its starting to slip slightly.
12 Little Mix - Shout Out to My Ex
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