Fans wanted Grown and OMG. This would be the time LM could afford to do a "for the fans" single since they're so popular.

Wayback Wednesday! Anybody remember their first gig after XF?

"This is Soopah Bass!"
https://youtube.com/watch?v=S_JRVp0PYos

DLG
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uIpgucKNuME

After they dropped Cannonball, what was their 2012 setlist before Wings came out? Superbass, DLG and? I dont think it was ET. I recall we were getting really bored of it.

They done a youtube cover of Fun "We Are Young" as it was massive in 2012. Maybe that?

What's wrong with some fans wanting Grown and OMG? We don't know how those songs would have performed had they been granted single status.

I don't think they should ever really do songs 'for the fans' though, they should always be picking singles based on what they think will generate most interest and translate into the most sales for them.

The girls were great even then but its so amazing how far they have come.

Its amazing how awful those XF stylists were.


Pretty much what you said. I dont think the 2 would have had mass appeal.

If we get a single release for Power - I think they should use their "Mad Max" - (desert shoot) - outfits...or something very similar. . .
Those looked great!

That was a good image. And 'Power' is a great song...why not a 5th single?

That's totally fair enough but also just your opinion, it's not really fair to drag on some fans for thinking differently when we don't know the outcome either way and never will!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge Grown or OMG fan but I've just seen it mentioned a few times on this forum about how fans are wrong because they wanted this or that, seems a bit unfair.

Anyway, I hope the girls are enjoying their time off as they're definitely going to be busy at the start of the year! Also, reading more about the Fifth Harmony drama today - so grateful that Little Mix don't have this issue. I can't help but think that this could have been the outcome for them had Perrie been a bit more of a diva and let all the initial X Factor comments about her being the lead singer go to her head.

Power is selling the best of all the album tracks - definitely a great sign for it. I really think they should go for it, it'd be nice to see them have such an explosive single. I really don't buy this "It's too loud for radio", if it does well radio will pick it up and it'll stand out. Music artists shouldn't be limited to what radio will play. Go for it girls, end the era with a bang.

Yeah I wouldn't mind Power as the fourth and final single for the era. Especially since Oops is a very chilled song and it would be a nice contrast.

I guess they could make it a summer single because they'll probably ride Touch out until March, which is when the focus will start shifting to Oops ready for when they return to the UK in April. So it looks like they won't release a fourth single until July or so. Both Power and NMSS would make great summer songs in my opinion.

I'm not sure the girls are confident in Power as a single though, since they said they think the public would "just see it as noise". They also thought at one point that F.U. would be a single, and changed their minds. Thats also what makes me nervous because if they arent fully backing something we all know what happens (Cannonball and Word Up).

I'd love to know if they wanted SOTMX or Touch as the lead. I think its the former, even if its just getting those royalty coins.

I agree! The difference this time around though is that Power is actually doing really well on Itunes and Spotify, even weeks after the album release. As far as I know, Grown and OMG weren't showing that much potential.

Just wanted to say I'll be flying out tomorrow morning and probably won't have time to keep up but I hope you all have an AMAZING Christmas and New Year's! Thank you for making this forum wonderful with all your awesome input this year.

The next time I check in, hopefully the Touch video will be out.

YES! I've wanted a mad max video ever since I saw that photoshoot. They should have a guitarist on the front of a monster truck, like the most recent film as well

The Summer Capital showstopper.

BIB: Most definitely, I think. This might be a big reach but maybe there's something about 3/5 member bands ending in disaster because the vocal arrangements and dance/performance formations constantly keep the idea of 'a leader' in the forefront of the members' minds, of someone being 'in front'. Thus, one person always seems to naturally pull away from the others. Even-membered bands like LM obviously never have this problem. It's probably just a coincidence though as LM seem to be a very rare case of a band who actually get on.

I was wondering why a lot of groups are formed with 5. I have heard of 3 and 4 part harmony but not 5. The way most Pop songs are structured, the fifth member doesnt really get a look in on equal distribution either. Is this a British thing for 5? The really famous American girl groups I can recall off the bat werent 5 members.

I think if Perrie had been more of a diva in the beginning, she never would have agreed to be in a group in the first place. She seems to enjoy being in a group and I'm happy in turn to see that.

Another factor could be that their management also agreed on the "equal" angle. If LM had an LA Reid overseeing them they may have ended shortly. It took both sides to agree to pursue this.

I think it's down to aesthetics cv, for some reason 3/5 group formations always look better to me. Probably the perfect V. Haha, it's probably not that, but I think it does help.

A side benefit to the vocal democracy is that as each girl has taken her turn stepping up, its provided a lot more variety and freshness to the act, so its not the same old same old. They get to reinvent themselves and I think it helps people remain engaged.

I've noticed the 4 vs. 5 thing in instrumental bands as well. Quartets are able to reach each other pretty intensely while they're playing. Once you go to 5 members (or above) it gets harder and harder and tends to just wind up with everyone taking very explicit turns at solos.

The flipside is that there's absolutely nowhere to hide in a 4 member group. In a 5+ group you can have someone who disappears a bit, or maybe has some limitations. If it's a pop group you can add a member with a distinctive look, or who might have a personality that will bring in fans, even if their vocals or stage presence or etc. are questionable.

New article with more 5H behind the scenes. Sounds messy... the label helped set up her career even though management said no, and then was surprised she insisted on going solo? Huh?
http://www.billboard.com/articles/co...ny-exit-inside

Which I'm really surprised at, as the LA way is the traditional set-up: to push forward a frontwoman of the band.


I think you've hit the nail on the head there. A band made of odd numbers allows one member to 'lead' with an equal number of members behind/beside them on each side. Visually it does look better but, as CV says, it ends up with 2/3 members usually just being there for the sake or it, contributing little from a vocal standpoint.


True. In 5-member bands, they usually stick to the same person leading vocally, 2 others backing them up, and the other 2 being there for aesthetics with maybe some vocal support.

I think that's biting Epic with June's Diary. They did correctly identify the girl with the most pre-existing star power imo but they pushed her so far to the front in the first video that it seems like her and some backing vocals and she's no Beyoncé, she can't carry a group like that. They desperately need a video emphasizing group chemistry.

Hey Violet fans are really pissed about their newest video as well if you want a non-pop group example. Literally every comment when I watched it was "where's the rest of the band?"

Whoa.

At the same time, many in the industry are wondering what happens to the hashtag-christened "Fourth Harmony” from here -- especially considering the label is staring down a deadline at the end of December by which the company has to decide whether to pick up the group's option for a third full-length album (Epic Records has not commented on the status of the deal; reps for Fifth Harmony and Cabello declined further comment).

Although Fifth Harmony's recording contracts are structured as individual solo deals, allowing them to make music both as a unit and on their own, according to multiple sources,

In fact, Fifth Harmony's label, Epic Records, has been planning a Cabello solo album for the better part of a year


I knew it. Full label backing. The seeds for discontent were already built in to the group.

As the Brazilians would say, "Amem Little Mix".

Personally, I just don't see the logic behind this for ANY band? Is it so difficult to find 4/5 adequate singers? If you want a "star" why not just market the person as a solo artist?