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Timeless Radio launches Nov 3rd....Glasgow, Manchester, and Birmingham |
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Timeless Radio has been running 'tests' on the Trial Glasgow small-cale mux at 128 kbts stereo.
Station was to launch in September, then it was put back to October and then it was announced that will launch tomorrow, Thursday 3rd November at 10am. The website is incomplete with many pages needing filled, but it does state... "Launching soon on DAB Digital Radio in Glasgow..." so it may not be tomorrow! What is being proposed may be proving to be logistically challenging in practice. The service will be operating out of YOURradio in Dumbarton, and presumably mostly or all VTd by a mix of YOUR people and others brought in especially for it. Drivetime presenter is 'Steve Delahaye', aka station owner Spencer Pryor who serves as YOUR's morning news person, will be dealing with clients, paying invoices (eek ) etc etc. He also operates that local trial MUX. He is already a busy man. Breakfast is John Scott who hosts a night-time show on YOUR, not to mention a 5 hour Saturday airshift there too. Weekends include ex Saga presenters Angus Simpson and Alistair Alford, as well as Clyde veteran Norman Ross and YOUR news stalwart Gary Pews.They will all either need studio access down at Dumbarton to do this VTing or will be working from home or wherever by either remote accessing the playout system if they have that facility, or failing that, simply recording dry links and emailing them over. This would involve all kinds of admin like sending presenters over playlists then manually placing emailed links on the log. Some of YOUR is already VTd by various means so it sounds like something that will involve a colossal amount of co-ordinatiion at YOUR towers. I really do wish it well because I am personally looking forward to it, a), and it is exacty the type of thing suited to local DAB as it creatively fills a niche the rest of the market do not wish to serve. They have a very strong lineup and the service could prove very popular. But I am having difficulty in my mind's eye imagining how all this extra workload is going to be managed. Am off to bed now so fingers crossed when I wake up it will be all up and running and I can enjoy hearing Steve Delahaye as I head into work. |
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Looks like its not happening today,nothing on the website but still showing a launch date of 3rd November at 10am!
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Looks like its not happening today,nothing on the website but still showing a launch date of 3rd November at 10am!
Sounds as if the launch has been postponed until a later date; this will be the fourth push-back for the station. As BL posts, this is déjà vu and DS posters have been through this with Eklipse Sports Radio, GO Radio and now Timeless Radio. Somethings never change! The Glasgow trial mux is having technical faults as it is going off-air momentarily every 5 minutes of so. |
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Birmingham local or Birmingham Trial?
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I really hope this happens because I think there is a need. Yes there are some American web streams playing pretty 1960 music, but this will be a British station on DAB, at least in three major markets.
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Unforgettable Radio on the Portsmouth DAB minimux is a very good easy listening station. They've gone Christmassy at the moment, but managed to keep it classy. A great little DAB+ station with local (Portsmouth) information, but available online too.
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I thought a simulcast of The Vinyl Frontier on Sunday nights would be a dead cert. Surprised they haven't done so.
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Birmingham local or Birmingham Trial?
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Ah I won't be hearing it then
![]() The main Birmingham MUX just about reaches a few places on the southern fringes of Derby, and also gives a solid signal at my parents house in Burton on Trent. I doubt the small scale MUX even makes it past* the toll road! * past or passed? Which is it? They both look wrong! |
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I really hope this happens because I think there is a need. Yes there are some American web streams playing pretty 1960 music, but this will be a British station on DAB, at least in three major markets.
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Birmingham Trial small-scale DAB mux on Block 9A (202.928 MHz)
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The 'test transmission' loop is still going out. Mike McLean just voiced that this was a "final test" for Timeless Radio which will launch on Thursday 3rd November 10am with Russell Watson doing the live launch. This was broadcast at 10.12am today, 3rd November!
Sounds as if the launch has been postponed until a later date; this will be the fourth push-back for the station. As BL posts, this is déjà vu and DS posters have been through this with Eklipse Sports Radio, GO Radio and now Timeless Radio. Somethings never change! The Glasgow trial mux is having technical faults as it is going off-air momentarily every 5 minutes of so. If I were a cynical person I might even wonder if these launch-dates-that-turn-out-not- to-be are intentional, the better to create a sense of urgency in sought after presenters to agree to appear on it and be publicly announced. Or would-be investors, for that matter. By the time 'launch' is missed, the people involved will all have been on their facebook pages posting to the industry about how much they are looking forward to appearing on [****insert name of Spencer DAB station here****] and by doing so have rather bound themselves into the project regardless. It is true that September was the due time for a technical solve for the SFN syncing issues that have beset the Glasgow trial to be issued, as stated in the OFCOM report on the small scale DAB trials.But surely on a 'once bitten twice shy' basis, it would have made sense for Spencer to ensure it was working properly before announcing launch dates for another DAB station, and that all the other nuts and bolts were in place too? This isn't intended as a Spencer bashing post and he may be keen to have pointed out that Eklipse Sports Radio ultimately DID get off the ground, while GO DID secure major Scottish investment to..... at the very least...... have a crack at the 96.3 licence and may yet happen on DAB too. However these false/aborted launches are rapidly becoming like Cape Canaveral on a shit day and 'The Boy Who Cried Wolf.' also jumps to mind. Quote:
Damn. No chance at my location in Walsall then. Got hopes up when OP stated local multiplexes. This sounded up my street and could have finally given me a reason to use my DAB... Oh well...
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I really hope this happens because I think there is a need. Yes there are some American web streams playing pretty 1960 music, but this will be a British station on DAB, at least in three major markets.
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2 of the 3 major markets are small scale DAB trials which cover very small areas
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The Timeless Radio FB page now states: "Start spreading the news - Timeless Radio UK
Coming soon. Launch date TBA." The music loop going out still states launching on Thursday 3rd November. |
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It's Mike McLean I feel particularly sorry for. He has been very loyal to Spencer, working 7 days a week for months earlier this year to help YOUR in its hour of need, and I am told has put a lot of time and effort into this latest project, only for this to happen again
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It is true that September was the due time for a technical solve for the SFN syncing issues that have beset the Glasgow trial to be issued, as stated in the OFCOM report on the small scale DAB trials.But surely on a 'once bitten twice shy' basis, it would have made sense for Spencer to ensure it was working properly before announcing launch dates for another DAB station, and that all the other nuts and bolts were in place too?
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Really terrible that this is happening all over again with Timeless Radio not
going live at 10am on Thursday. I just hope that Mike McLean does not decide to walk away from Your Radio and Timeless Radio after he has worked his socks off to help get Timeless up and running. He will be feeling really tired and exhausted after working hard to get Timeless Radio up and running. Well done Mike, you have really done your very best to try and help get Timeless Radio up and running. You do need a holiday, so do have one. |
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Really terrible that this is happening all over again with Timeless Radio not
going live at 10am on Thursday. I just hope that Mike McLean does not decide to walk away from Your Radio and Timeless Radio after he has worked his socks off to help get Timeless up and running. He will be feeling really tired and exhausted after working hard to get Timeless Radio up and running. Well done Mike, you have really done your very best to try and help get Timeless Radio up and running. You do need a holiday, so do have one. Mike has been a dependable rock for them down there this year with all his hard work. Spencer yet again missing a launch deadline is one thing but to then blithely just keep broadcasting that test loop regardless with Mike still announcing a launch date that never was is hugely disrespectful to someone who has loyally served YOUR/Castlerock for 20 years It's disgusting in fact. Who could blame him if he walked away? I am also at a loss as to why others who should know better are still going down there and signing up for more 'Spencer Ventures'. |
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Spencer Bashing Season Open again....
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Well said Alan!!!
Mike has been a dependable rock for them down there this year with all his hard work. Spencer yet again missing a launch deadline is one thing but to then blithely just keep broadcasting that test loop regardless with Mike still announcing a launch date that never was is hugely disrespectful to someone who has loyally served YOUR/Castlerock for 20 years It's disgusting in fact. Who could blame him if he walked away? I am also at a loss as to why others who should know better are still going down there and signing up for more 'Spencer Ventures'. I usually rise above all these comments and treat them as a bit of a joke by Armchair Warriors and Schoolboys with satchels hanging around outside studios, however I do sometimes get a wee bit irritated.... Mike is perfectly happy regarding Timeless and his paid work for YOUR. Mike is the one actually responsible for the test loop and re-edited it the other day and must have missed one of the links that needed taken out. Not a major end of the world event. So I think 'disgusting' and disrespectful is a bit beyond the pale from John.. Timeless is running a wee bit behind schedule due to the integration of the playout system into the existing RCS system. Not as easy as it sounds. It will happen when it happens - this is a small scale DAB station - not Radio 1. Regarding 'Spencer Ventures'.. Well in the last year Gary Marshall and myself have rescued YOUR from where it was on the point of closing down because the newspaper group running it were fed up with it losing £100k+ per annum - a lot of that due to a lot of Black Labels mates thinking they had a cushy job. With a lot of hard work including regular 100 hour weeks by myself it's now on the path to success. We shall see what the station's first RAJAR book looks like in January.. DAB - Ah yes, the 'trial' multiplex, and the one where I've probably sunk about £5,000 of my own money into over the past year to support local community stations who even then baulked at coughing up £50 a month to help defray costs on something that costs over £1k a month to run - electricity, site rents and telecom charges aren't free you know... Like Radio left the mux because their contract ended and they didn't want to renew it where they had to pay money out, not because of the service they received. I suspect they're struggling to pay the fees for the commercial muxes they are on in the West Midlands and Glasgow was too far from their core area. In fact two new stations started on the mux this week to replace them - Radio Telstar from Galashiels and Starpoint Soul. In fact I've a queue of stations wanting to come on the mux, as do all the other minimux operators across the UK. Timeless Radio will be a creative success due to the hard work put in by all the team involved especially Mike as Head of Music, whether it will be financially we will have to see. As I've said in the past there is a lot of opportunities out there in RadioLand - just go out and seize them, or be like BL (John) and just sit at your computer whining on about how this is wrong and how he'd do it different - I'm not stopping you mate, but I suspect that you'd prefer to sit in front of your laptop rather than actually doing something. Anyway I've got more important things to do like building a couple of effigies of DS posters and getting them ready for the bonfire tonight... Toodle Pip! |
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Timeless is running a wee bit behind schedule due to the integration of the playout system into the existing RCS system. Not as easy as it sounds. It will happen when it happens - this is a small scale DAB station - not Radio 1.
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....but a very large number of people.
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Mike is perfectly happy regarding Timeless and his paid work for YOUR. Mike is the one actually responsible for the test loop and re-edited it the other day and must have missed one of the links that needed taken out. Not a major end of the world event. So I think 'disgusting' and disrespectful is a bit beyond the pale from John..!
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Timeless is running a wee bit behind schedule due to the integration of the playout system into the existing RCS system. Not as easy as it sounds. It will happen when it happens - this is a small scale DAB station - not Radio 1.
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Regarding 'Spencer Ventures'.. Well in the last year Gary Marshall and myself have rescued YOUR from where it was on the point of closing down because the newspaper group running it were fed up with it losing £100k+ per annum - a lot of that due to a lot of Black Labels mates thinking they had a cushy job. With a lot of hard work including regular 100 hour weeks by myself it's now on the path to success. We shall see what the station's first RAJAR book looks like in January..
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Anyway I've got more important things to do like building a couple of effigies of DS posters and getting them ready for the bonfire tonight... Toodle Pip!
![]() Seriosuly though, have fingers crossed for a good first RAJAR for YOUR in January. And a launch date for Timeless too. John |
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) etc etc. He also operates that local trial MUX. He is already a busy man. Breakfast is John Scott who hosts a night-time show on YOUR, not to mention a 5 hour Saturday airshift there too. Weekends include ex Saga presenters Angus Simpson and Alistair Alford, as well as Clyde veteran Norman Ross and YOUR news stalwart Gary Pews.


