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Old 23-10-2016, 20:14
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Dictinary definition of fatuous: 'inane, pointless, vacuous'.

Dictionary definition of snide: 'mocking, derogatory'.

In the episode before last we saw the women's team forget to take the jeans with them. They knew that they had forgotten on the way; everyone knew they had forgotten them. They knew it was a disastrous oversight on their part and were upset about it.

At this point, Karren chips in with:

"Let me get this staight, you are going to do a photo shoot for your jeans without the product (cue very sour, viciously mocking face)".

These remarks can ONLY be seen as POINTLESS - they literally added nothing OTHER THAN MAKING THE CONTESTANTS FEEL EVEN WORSE - and hence they were clearly and deliberately DEROGATORY said only to make them look stupid.

In the last episode, one of the women said she contributed by helping with the model's hair and by cleaning up.

Karren chimed: "Hairdressing and cleaning, not skills that Lord Sugar is looking for". This is INANE AND PONTLESS because we all already know that (including any ten year olds watching) so they add no value and again (cue very sour and dismissive face), were said in a demoralisngly MOCKING tone, that could ONLY have been intended to put the contestant down.

KARREN IS CONSISTENTLY FATUOUS AND SNIDE.

QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM.
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Old 23-10-2016, 20:35
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In the last episode, one of the women said she contributed by helping with the model's hair and by cleaning up.

Karren chimed: "Hairdressing and cleaning, not skills that Lord Sugar is looking for". This is INANE AND PONTLESS because we all already know that (including any ten year olds watching) so they add no value and again (cue very sour and dismissive face), were said in a demoralisngly MOCKING tone, that could ONLY have been intended to put the contestant down..
Not only that, but she WAS a hairdresser and her businessproposal had to do with hairdressing. So she made herself useful. Now imagine if she had refused to do that, I'm sure that the comments could as easily have been that LS does not need people who feel they are too good to do the work that is needed at that moment and at which they are skilled.

That's my problem with the show in general. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Old 23-10-2016, 22:03
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Dictinary definition of fatuous: 'inane, pointless, vacuous'.

Dictionary definition of snide: 'mocking, derogatory'.

In the episode before last we saw the women's team forget to take the jeans with them. They knew that they had forgotten on the way; everyone knew they had forgotten them. They knew it was a disastrous oversight on their part and were upset about it.

At this point, Karren chips in with:

"Let me get this staight, you are going to do a photo shoot for your jeans without the product (cue very sour, viciously mocking face)".

These remarks can ONLY be seen as POINTLESS - they literally added nothing OTHER THAN MAKING THE CONTESTANTS FEEL EVEN WORSE - and hence they were clearly and deliberately DEROGATORY said only to make them look stupid.

In the last episode, one of the women said she contributed by helping with the model's hair and by cleaning up.

Karren chimed: "Hairdressing and cleaning, not skills that Lord Sugar is looking for". This is INANE AND PONTLESS because we all already know that (including any ten year olds watching) so they add no value and again (cue very sour and dismissive face), were said in a demoralisngly MOCKING tone, that could ONLY have been intended to put the contestant down.

KARREN IS CONSISTENTLY FATUOUS AND SNIDE.

QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM.
And you have the gall to criticise her for ranting ?

Plus it is very rude to shout by the way.
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Old 24-10-2016, 07:31
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Dictinary definition of fatuous: 'inane, pointless, vacuous'.

Dictionary definition of snide: 'mocking, derogatory'.

In the episode before last we saw the women's team forget to take the jeans with them. They knew that they had forgotten on the way; everyone knew they had forgotten them. They knew it was a disastrous oversight on their part and were upset about it.

At this point, Karren chips in with:

"Let me get this staight, you are going to do a photo shoot for your jeans without the product (cue very sour, viciously mocking face)".

These remarks can ONLY be seen as POINTLESS - they literally added nothing OTHER THAN MAKING THE CONTESTANTS FEEL EVEN WORSE - and hence they were clearly and deliberately DEROGATORY said only to make them look stupid.

In the last episode, one of the women said she contributed by helping with the model's hair and by cleaning up.

Karren chimed: "Hairdressing and cleaning, not skills that Lord Sugar is looking for". This is INANE AND PONTLESS because we all already know that (including any ten year olds watching) so they add no value and again (cue very sour and dismissive face), were said in a demoralisngly MOCKING tone, that could ONLY have been intended to put the contestant down.

KARREN IS CONSISTENTLY FATUOUS AND SNIDE.

QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM.
On the missing jeans -- not everyone knew. You seem to have missed that Karren was not with the girls when they realised they'd not got the jeans with them in the car. Karren had been waiting with the photographer in the studio, so this oversight was news to her and she was just establishing the facts.

On Natalie -- Karren was telling Natalie to move on and give Lord Sugar reasons for keeping her in the process. Natalie could also have pointed out that as a hairdresser, she was helping win the task and not to do so would have been seen as disruptive. Alas, Natalie did not take the hint and was fired.
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Old 24-10-2016, 10:50
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The show is supposed to be tense and feature drama and conflict. Karren's brief is to be haughty and critical, not sweet and encouraging. I don't think her comments are 'fatuous and inane', rather the reverse, and I certainly didn't need a vocabulary lesson from the OP, with shouty capitals and some pretentious Latin thrown in for good measure.
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Old 24-10-2016, 13:51
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I think she gives credit where it's due but she does come down hard on people being ineffective as does Claude. I think I'm the last episode when she was pulling faces was down to them having no set prices given on the products which is ridiculous for a business task.
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Old 24-10-2016, 14:24
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On the missing jeans -- not everyone knew. You seem to have missed that Karren was not with the girls when they realised they'd not got the jeans with them in the car. Karren had been waiting with the photographer in the studio, so this oversight was news to her and she was just establishing the facts.

On Natalie -- Karren was telling Natalie to move on and give Lord Sugar reasons for keeping her in the process. Natalie could also have pointed out that as a hairdresser, she was helping win the task and not to do so would have been seen as disruptive. Alas, Natalie did not take the hint and was fired.
I think one problem with Natalie was that according to what she said on You're Fired, she'd never even watched the Apprentice before (why you'd apply to go on a TV show you'd never seen, or not even tried to catch up on some past episodes after you'd been selected, I don't know...), so probably had little idea of how to defend herself in the boardroom. If I was her, I'd have pointed out that it was the PM who asked me to do the hairdressing, for obvious reasons, but she didn't even do that.
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Old 24-10-2016, 22:21
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Dictinary definition of fatuous: 'inane, pointless, vacuous'.

Dictionary definition of snide: 'mocking, derogatory'.

In the episode before last we saw the women's team forget to take the jeans with them. They knew that they had forgotten on the way; everyone knew they had forgotten them. They knew it was a disastrous oversight on their part and were upset about it.

At this point, Karren chips in with:

"Let me get this staight, you are going to do a photo shoot for your jeans without the product (cue very sour, viciously mocking face)".

These remarks can ONLY be seen as POINTLESS - they literally added nothing OTHER THAN MAKING THE CONTESTANTS FEEL EVEN WORSE - and hence they were clearly and deliberately DEROGATORY said only to make them look stupid.

In the last episode, one of the women said she contributed by helping with the model's hair and by cleaning up.

Karren chimed: "Hairdressing and cleaning, not skills that Lord Sugar is looking for". This is INANE AND PONTLESS because we all already know that (including any ten year olds watching) so they add no value and again (cue very sour and dismissive face), were said in a demoralisngly MOCKING tone, that could ONLY have been intended to put the contestant down.

KARREN IS CONSISTENTLY FATUOUS AND SNIDE.

QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM.
You can't prove your opinion with your own subjective judgements.
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Old 25-10-2016, 16:45
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Brady is a nasty peice of work.

Can't wait for her next 'women in business' rant, where she conveniently forgets her background in the soft porn industry.
Oh dear! Don't tell me you worked for her, and it didn't go right?
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Old 25-10-2016, 16:46
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Dictinary definition of fatuous: 'inane, pointless, vacuous'.

Dictionary definition of snide: 'mocking, derogatory'.

In the episode before last we saw the women's team forget to take the jeans with them. They knew that they had forgotten on the way; everyone knew they had forgotten them. They knew it was a disastrous oversight on their part and were upset about it.

At this point, Karren chips in with:

"Let me get this staight, you are going to do a photo shoot for your jeans without the product (cue very sour, viciously mocking face)".

These remarks can ONLY be seen as POINTLESS - they literally added nothing OTHER THAN MAKING THE CONTESTANTS FEEL EVEN WORSE - and hence they were clearly and deliberately DEROGATORY said only to make them look stupid.

In the last episode, one of the women said she contributed by helping with the model's hair and by cleaning up.

Karren chimed: "Hairdressing and cleaning, not skills that Lord Sugar is looking for". This is INANE AND PONTLESS because we all already know that (including any ten year olds watching) so they add no value and again (cue very sour and dismissive face), were said in a demoralisngly MOCKING tone, that could ONLY have been intended to put the contestant down.

KARREN IS CONSISTENTLY FATUOUS AND SNIDE.

QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM.
Did she fire you too?
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Old 25-10-2016, 17:33
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Every year this thread come up, same subject different posters.

For what it's worth I quite like Karren. To keep a marriage going in a notoriously transient industry for over twenty years, bring up two children, hold down a senior position in an industry that doesn't value women and to recover from a very serious health scare ain't too shabby.
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Old 25-10-2016, 20:17
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Every year this thread come up, same subject different posters.

For what it's worth I quite like Karren. To keep a marriage going in a notoriously transient industry for over twenty years, bring up two children, hold down a senior position in an industry that doesn't value women and to recover from a very serious health scare ain't too shabby.
Yes indeed - and as I said on another post - she is a very strong woman - which I admire.
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Old 25-10-2016, 23:27
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Strong? All I see is sneering, condescension and a nose firmly up Alan Sugar's arse.
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Old 26-10-2016, 00:29
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It would be great if someone with all this incredible experience, amazing success and fantastic personal characteristics would make 1/10th of the contribution to the show that one might reasonably expect, especially given the massive fee she is 'earning'. And if someone who has an experience to gain proper perspective on life could be less dismissive, contemptuous and insulting towards other human beings.

She should be embarrassed and ashamed of what we see every week.
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Old 28-10-2016, 11:54
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It would be great if someone with all this incredible experience, amazing success and fantastic personal characteristics would make 1/10th of the contribution to the show that one might reasonably expect, especially given the massive fee she is 'earning'. And if someone who has an experience to gain proper perspective on life could be less dismissive, contemptuous and insulting towards other human beings.

She should be embarrassed and ashamed of what we see every week.
Horrible woman, IMO. I base my judgement on what I've seen as well in her motivational videos. She actually addresses the audience by saying he's Alan to me and Lord Sugar to you. Her pathetic attempt at humour quite rightly wasn't met with much laughter.
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Old 28-10-2016, 21:55
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Another episode in which narky Karren had nothing positive or useful to say compared with Claude twice praising someone's performance and giving his criticisms in a more measured way that the candidate could actually do something with.
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Old 30-10-2016, 21:55
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It's really time for Karren to be given her marching orders - someone who treats other human beings that badly should not be paid large sums of money to do so on TV.
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Old 30-10-2016, 22:04
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Strong? All I see is sneering, condescension and a nose firmly up Alan Sugar's arse.
Hope there is enough room - Claude is a big guy.
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Old 31-10-2016, 10:54
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Hope there is enough room - Claude is a big guy.
I always assumed LS sat on a booster seat to make himself appear taller in the boardroom, but perhaps it's something else that raises him up.
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Old 31-10-2016, 21:49
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I always assumed LS sat on a booster seat to make himself appear taller in the boardroom, but perhaps it's something else that raises him up.
I wish he would agree to a enema - we would know then
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:06
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Strong? All I see is sneering, condescension and a nose firmly up Alan Sugar's arse.
How is her being friends with Sugar having her nose up his arse?

Her job is to report to him on the candidates ffs
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Old 03-11-2016, 14:19
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Let's all pray that Karren has had a personality transplant, otherwise tonight we will be in for witnessing yet more appalling denigration of other human beings. 😩
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Old 11-11-2016, 13:22
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Astoundingly, she is getting worse.

Definitely time for her to be fired.
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Old 11-11-2016, 13:29
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Someone should remind this chipped up, Tory, porn-baron employee that she's not appearing on Newsnight or auditioning to be the new Paxman....it's an entertainment show, but her face-like-a-smacked-arse bitching and anti-female posturing is ruining it. Get shut of her and get someone on there who understands what the show's all about.
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Old 12-11-2016, 10:18
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Karren totally lacks class.

Someone who has been lucky enough to become hugely wealthy and to have survived an operation with a 50% survival rate should really show more compassion towards other human beings.

Given it is clear that there is overwhelming evidence of her appalling behaviour, she cannot survive for another series.
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