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Old 20-10-2016, 09:43
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I'm sorry but Eastenders has gone so crap.! What kind of cliff hanger is

" I don't care if I never drive again" or Will's face.

Other than Whitney/Lee, nothing else seems to be going on. We sometimes get a glimpse of Ben & Sharon, even Phil & Louise have gone missing, Ronnie, Roxy?

The boring Carmel/Masood circle has been going on for too long, and don't even get me started on the bin crap (no pun intended)

I'm all for realism and character based stories, but at the end of the day a soap needs to provide some entertainment, action & drama. Maybe it will pick up but at the moment Eastenders is going in the wrong direction, it seems as if you can miss a few episodes and pick up & carry on whenever, whereas before missing an episode meant you not knowing vital information.

I miss DTC
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Old 20-10-2016, 09:57
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There's a lot of talk on this subject. People seem to be saying its a 'transition period' for the new producer. It might be. I suppose we will find out in a couple of months.
I'm not hopeful though , especially considering the axings.
I have an awful feeling the new producer is some sort of Birkwood/Lorraine Newman hybrid.
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Old 20-10-2016, 10:09
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There's a lot of talk on this subject. People seem to be saying its a 'transition period' for the new producer. It might be. I suppose we will find out in a couple of months.
I'm not hopeful though , especially considering the axings.
I have an awful feeling the new producer is some sort of Birkwood/Lorraine Newman hybrid.
Well Kirkwood was OTT on sensationalism while Newman was just boring beyond limits so I don't think either eras are remotely similar.

I think DTC was the worst EP of the last decade because of the way he rewrote history of established facts, not just by anyone but the shows actual creater Julia Smith, to suit his own fanfiction.

SOC might not have done any blockbuster storylines yet but the characters at the moment are the most relatable they have been for at least a decade. I would sooner watch the likes of Dot - who was underused greatly under DTC than Claudette being buried alive by her own son then returning like nothing happened.
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Old 20-10-2016, 10:11
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Im have literally dipping in and out over the last couple of weeks

last time I watched Kim was faffing about with the driving thing - tuned in again this week and they are STILL banging on about Kim and her driving

how boring and how dragged out personally I couldnt give two hoots about what Kim does and doesnt do but a storyline dragging on about her driving skills (or lack of them) doesnt interest me one little bit
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Old 20-10-2016, 10:13
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DTC was driving the show towards burnout. Virtually every character was either a murderer or covering up a murder. Everyone became unlikeable. Everything was driven by the plot. Something had to change.

EastEnders is quiet at the moment but it's by no means 'pedestrian' as some have claimed. It's not as if nothing is happening - just last week we had Whitney's miscarriage and the Cokers' exit. We're only a month into SOC's era and the show has already undergone a radical transformation. Give it time and we'll start getting some bigger stories. Christmas will be the big test.

Also, I don't know how anyone can complain about stories being 'dragged out' when we had Lucy's murder, Linda's rape etc going in circles for months on end under DTC. His pacing was so poor you could literally skip several weeks of the show and the stories would be in the same place when you came back to it.
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Old 20-10-2016, 10:13
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Yet another thread bemoaning how bad some people think EE is at the moment, certainly no pleasing everyone that's for sure.

Dare I say I am actually preferring the way it is at the moment.
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Old 20-10-2016, 10:24
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Well Kirkwood was OTT on sensationalism while Newman was just boring beyond limits so I don't think either eras are remotely similar.

I think DTC was the worst EP of the last decade because of the way he rewrote history of established facts, not just by anyone but the shows actual creater Julia Smith, to suit his own fanfiction.

SOC might not have done any blockbuster storylines yet but the characters at the moment are the most relatable they have been for at least a decade. I would sooner watch the likes of Dot - who was underused greatly under DTC than Claudette being buried alive by her own son then returning like nothing happened.
This completely.
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Old 20-10-2016, 10:26
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I'm another who is actually enjoying EE style at the moment. I agree the duff duff endings of late have been pretty mediocre but I'm actually enjoying the show as a whole and think the writing has improved and it's been more character driven recently. It's still early days for SOC but I still have a good feeling about him and don't think any big stories will kick in until end of this year.

Considering this was meant to be a big week for CS and Emmerdale the ratings have barely increased.
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Old 20-10-2016, 10:36
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Yet another thread bemoaning how bad some people think EE is at the moment, certainly no pleasing everyone that's for sure.

Dare I say I am actually preferring the way it is at the moment.
Indeed. How many threads do we need on the matter?
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Old 20-10-2016, 10:39
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I think a more gradual change of the show would've been far more successful. As it is, I think the OP's right. I have patience for this kind of thing, but they've got to give us something. The Kim duff duff - and I speak as a Kim fan - was like something out of eighties era Neighbours. You watch they'll be playing cricket in the square next, and the ball will go through Dot's window.
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Old 20-10-2016, 10:39
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Why do we need Another thread?
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:05
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The change is noticeable too. My friends who know nothing about producers even noticed the change in the show.

The duff duffs are the main issue. Was Kim's on Tuesday enough to draw people back for Thursdays episode? Same goes for Monday, the one with William was so bizarre.
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:15
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The change is noticeable too. My friends who know nothing about producers even noticed the change in the show.

The duff duffs are the main issue. Was Kim's on Tuesday enough to draw people back for Thursdays episode? Same goes for Monday, the one with William was so bizarre.
He's trying to go back to basics....
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:25
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I think a more gradual change of the show would've been far more successful. As it is, I think the OP's right. I have patience for this kind of thing, but they've got to give us something. The Kim duff duff - and I speak as a Kim fan - was like something out of eighties era Neighbours. You watch they'll be playing cricket in the square next, and the ball will go through Dot's window.
I agree about the gradual change. It was almost as if everyone on the square had a sudden personality transplant overnight.

They all went from being nasty to each other to all being happy and best friends and it just seems so forced and unnatural.

I can accept filler storylines, no soap can have big storylines and high drama constantly, but when you have a lot of love and warmth mixed with very boring everyday stuff, not to mention the strange duff duffs, is it really any wonder why people are moaning!
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:28
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The problem is it takes only a few words to say "the show has become boring" but it takes a much bigger post to explain the reasons why this "downtime" is necessary for the show.

Sadly the people who don't enjoy/understand the current formula are probably the same people who won't read a long post and will just skip over them to contribute another "it's boring" post.
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:31
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The Kim duff duff - and I speak as a Kim fan - was like something out of eighties era Neighbours.
Actually it was like something out of eighties era EastEnders.

Such a necessary period of calm. I have so much praise for this excellent decision of the EP's.
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:32
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Actually it was like something out of eighties era EastEnders.

Such a necessary period of calm. I have so much praise for this excellent decision of the EP's.
It's 2016 though...... The show wasn't even in such a bad way that it had to go back to basics
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:37
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Such a necessary period of calm. I have so much praise for this excellent decision of the EP's.
Completely agree. The show needed to chill out after all the murdering and retconning of 2013-16. It needed to get back to basics.
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:40
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Completely agree. The show needed to chill out after all the murdering and retconning of 2013-16. It needed to get back to basics.
He should of aimed to create the show like it was in the mid 90's to early 2000's
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:47
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He should of aimed to create the show like it was in the mid 90's to early 2000's
Why? Then some people would be happy and others wouldn't. Just like now.

Whatever he does, it's not going to please everyone. This is the direction they've gone in. Suck it up.
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:48
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It's 2016 though...... The show wasn't even in such a bad way that it had to go back to basics
And? Explain why, in 2016 we can't have a character driven show with humility instead of a show THINKING it is big, when actually it was just a complete pantomime.
The show was definitely bad and not something to be taken seriously at all. It was surviving on doof doof moments and 'bigger than the last' plots. That they've turned that around will do the show the world of good.

The ratings, general praise on here and in the media don't support this idea of the show being 'boring', some viewers are simply fickle and impatient.
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:53
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The ratings, general praise on here and in the media don't support this idea of the show being 'boring'
Room for two under that rock?
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:56
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A lot of comments like "they're re-establishing characters" and "they're building up to new storylines" are exactly what people said during the Lorraine Newman, but in the end it didn't lead to anything and was a very poor year.
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Old 20-10-2016, 11:57
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It's 2016 though...... The show wasn't even in such a bad way that it had to go back to basics
Well someone high up at the BBC obviously disagreed.

I think what those who are claiming SOC is ruining the show fail to understand is that when he was given the job his vision for the show will have been well known to those who gave it to him. So the fact the BBC gave him the position with the green light to send the show in the direction its heading in really tells you that the BBC themselves wanted this and the BBC know the EE audience better than anyone on here no matter what people might think. The audience research the BBC use are the best in the industry.
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Old 20-10-2016, 12:00
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Im personally loving it. Its gone back to being EastEnders rather than ripping off other soaps.

Im wondering if the divide of opinions is an age thing?
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