Wow Aliona is very bitter with some of her comments. What is wrong with her - she won but has to be nasty about some of this year's contestants. I admit to being bitterly disappointed when she and Jay made the stupid decision to not repeat that Jive in the final claiming it was such a special moment. Then I found out that they repeated it every night on the tour. So if you were willing to pay you got to.see it again regardless of if you voted for them to make the final. At the end there I felt they got a little pompous and I did wonder if it was Alionas influence now.
Aliona's Twitter rant.
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Originally Posted by LoracShakti:
“Wow Aliona is very bitter with some of her comments. What is wrong with her - she won but has to be nasty about some of this year's contestants. I admit to being bitterly disappointed when she and Jay made the stupid decision to not repeat that Jive in the final claiming it was such a special moment. Then I found out that they repeated it every night on the tour. So if you were willing to pay you got to.see it again regardless of if you voted for them to make the final. At the end there I felt they got a little pompous and I did wonder if it was Alionas influence now.”
“Wow Aliona is very bitter with some of her comments. What is wrong with her - she won but has to be nasty about some of this year's contestants. I admit to being bitterly disappointed when she and Jay made the stupid decision to not repeat that Jive in the final claiming it was such a special moment. Then I found out that they repeated it every night on the tour. So if you were willing to pay you got to.see it again regardless of if you voted for them to make the final. At the end there I felt they got a little pompous and I did wonder if it was Alionas influence now.”
I think she comes across very angry rather than bitter,the question is why
Originally Posted by lemonnlime09:
“I think she comes across very angry rather than bitter,the question is why”
“I think she comes across very angry rather than bitter,the question is why
”
I read several of her tweets and they are definitely nasty and bitter - why is the question.
Originally Posted by LoracShakti:
“Wow Aliona is very bitter with some of her comments. What is wrong with her - she won but has to be nasty about some of this year's contestants. I admit to being bitterly disappointed when she and Jay made the stupid decision to not repeat that Jive in the final claiming it was such a special moment. Then I found out that they repeated it every night on the tour. So if you were willing to pay you got to.see it again regardless of if you voted for them to make the final. At the end there I felt they got a little pompous and I did wonder if it was Alionas influence now.”
“Wow Aliona is very bitter with some of her comments. What is wrong with her - she won but has to be nasty about some of this year's contestants. I admit to being bitterly disappointed when she and Jay made the stupid decision to not repeat that Jive in the final claiming it was such a special moment. Then I found out that they repeated it every night on the tour. So if you were willing to pay you got to.see it again regardless of if you voted for them to make the final. At the end there I felt they got a little pompous and I did wonder if it was Alionas influence now.”
I think that Jay probably wanted to do it in the final. I can't understand why they didn't do it, if it was so special why do it every night on the tour?
I think this rant from her is about protecting her "brand". To have someone like Ore beat their score and for Jo to choreograph such a good routine has lead to this.
I like the Clifton's there is no ego or drama with them, they just get on with the their job. Aliona has a huge ego, I think she has shown herself up here.
Originally Posted by lemonnlime09:
“I think she comes across very angry rather than bitter,the question is why”
“I think she comes across very angry rather than bitter,the question is why
”
I think there are a number of reasons.
They didn't get the number of tens that Ore received.
They won despite the judges who were so biased in the final. It must have hurt them even though they won.
The judges were not supportive throughout the competition and they had to fight for all their marks.
Well she wasn't treated well by the SCD production over the years, during which time she stayed mum and was loyal. Then the 2015 final saw a big push for Kellie over Jay. Perhaps the anger and bitterness was irritated by the judges' comparisons between Jay and Ore.
Originally Posted by smude:
“I think there are a number of reasons.
They didn't get the number of tens that Ore received.
They won despite the judges who were so biased in the final. It must have hurt them even though they won.
The judges were not supportive throughout the competition and they had to fight for all their marks.”
“I think there are a number of reasons.
They didn't get the number of tens that Ore received.
They won despite the judges who were so biased in the final. It must have hurt them even though they won.
The judges were not supportive throughout the competition and they had to fight for all their marks.”
They had the best average out of all the contestants that year. The judges don't care who wins. I wasn't even supporting Kellie but her Showdance was the best and deserved the 40.
Originally Posted by lemonnlime09:
“It shouldn't,it just seemed to me she is furious with the producers and is basically saying the producers are manipulating the public to vote certain couples.A very strong accusation.”
“It shouldn't,it just seemed to me she is furious with the producers and is basically saying the producers are manipulating the public to vote certain couples.A very strong accusation.”
I don't think the producers have any influence over the public vote at all. That's been demonstrated many times in the past. So there is nothing secret going on. The only thing that may happen is that producers may try and make things more exciting by suggesting judges talk down the more accomplished or popular dancer until it gets near to the final. That is likely to happen with Danny.
If the producers do try to favour any pros then Aliona doesn't have any reason to feel particularly hard done by since she had not only two good dancers as partners, in Harry and Jay, but also two dancers with a reasonable fan base. I had heard via the dance circuit that Aliona wasn't the easiest pro to deal with when she got a poor partner. So all in all I think the producers were pretty accommodating and she has no reason to feel particulary aggrieved.
Originally Posted by lemonnlime09:
“It shouldn't,it just seemed to me she is furious with the producers and is basically saying the producers are manipulating the public to vote certain couples.A very strong accusation.”
“It shouldn't,it just seemed to me she is furious with the producers and is basically saying the producers are manipulating the public to vote certain couples.A very strong accusation.”
Well she more than anyone should know all about the beeb nudging their chosen winners over the winning line with gifted routines and all the other not so subtle manoeuvres regarding music and costume .
Ungrateful wench . She must be bored and missing all the action and attention . Nasty little person .
Originally Posted by smude:
“I think there are a number of reasons.
They didn't get the number of tens that Ore received.
They won despite the judges who were so biased in the final. It must have hurt them even though they won.
The judges were not supportive throughout the competition and they had to fight for all their marks.”
“I think there are a number of reasons.
They didn't get the number of tens that Ore received.
They won despite the judges who were so biased in the final. It must have hurt them even though they won.
The judges were not supportive throughout the competition and they had to fight for all their marks.”
I don't think it was that the judges were biased in the final, but that Kellie had a much better final than Jay did. He was the worst of the night (imo) so just maybe the judges thought so too.
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“Well she wasn't treated well by the SCD production over the years, during which time she stayed mum and was loyal. Then the 2015 final saw a big push for Kellie over Jay. Perhaps the anger and bitterness was irritated by the judges' comparisons between Jay and Ore.”
“Well she wasn't treated well by the SCD production over the years, during which time she stayed mum and was loyal. Then the 2015 final saw a big push for Kellie over Jay. Perhaps the anger and bitterness was irritated by the judges' comparisons between Jay and Ore.”
Big push for Kellie's partner than Kellie. It does make sense. Len has always had in for Aliona and there was no need for him to bring Jay's Jive into Ore's comments,
Judges have their favourites and producers also favour some partnerships.
IMO this series is the most "Manipulated" ever and I posted to say that last week. From some of the Judges comments and scores to the outfits and Wigs some the Celebs have had to wear the whole thing reeks to me.
I always liked Aliona and often defended her on here because I thought she got a bad rap unfairly, but this is ridiculous. She sounds insane. She won (twice 
) and apparently quit of her own accord rather than being forced out so heaven knows what her problem is.
) and apparently quit of her own accord rather than being forced out so heaven knows what her problem is.
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Big push for Kellie's partner than Kellie. It does make sense. Len has always had in for Aliona and there was no need for him to bring Jay's Jive into Ore's comments,
Judges have their favourites and producers also favour some partnerships.”
“Big push for Kellie's partner than Kellie. It does make sense. Len has always had in for Aliona and there was no need for him to bring Jay's Jive into Ore's comments,
Judges have their favourites and producers also favour some partnerships.”
But Jay was one of their favourites, I doubt any of the judges thought it was a travesty that he won.
Originally Posted by Christopher D:
“But Jay was one of their favourites, I doubt any of the judges thought it was a travesty that he won.”
“But Jay was one of their favourites, I doubt any of the judges thought it was a travesty that he won.”
No way was Jay the judges favourite. I think Bruno and to an extent Darcy got him but Len and Craig certainly didn't.
Originally Posted by Christopher D:
“But Jay was one of their favourites, I doubt any of the judges thought it was a travesty that he won.”
“But Jay was one of their favourites, I doubt any of the judges thought it was a travesty that he won.”
I thought Len and Craig were pushing for Kevin and Kellie.
Originally Posted by Huph:
“No way was Jay the judges favourite. I think Bruno and to an extent Darcy got him but Len and Craig certainly didn't.”
“No way was Jay the judges favourite. I think Bruno and to an extent Darcy got him but Len and Craig certainly didn't.”
Snap, we said the same thing.
I don't understand why the judges or the producers would favour any pros or celeb over another. I can't see what the show would gain from that.It seems Aliona is not happy at her jive being overshadowed by Ore and Her choreography by Joanne.
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“I thought Len and Craig were pushing for Kevin and Kellie.”
“I thought Len and Craig were pushing for Kevin and Kellie.”
Exactly Sarah. Len came right out and said it during the final.
Originally Posted by Huph:
“No way was Jay the judges favourite. I think Bruno and to an extent Darcy got him but Len and Craig certainly didn't.”
“No way was Jay the judges favourite. I think Bruno and to an extent Darcy got him but Len and Craig certainly didn't.”
I don't think Len rated Jay that highly technically.
Sorry, sometimes judges are not exercising favouritism because they disagree with the public vote. They just have genuine views on a celeb's ballroom and latin technique which may not be apparent to the wider public.
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Big push for Kellie's partner than Kellie. It does make sense. Len has always had in for Aliona and there was no need for him to bring Jay's Jive into Ore's comments,
Judges have their favourites and producers also favour some partnerships.”
“Big push for Kellie's partner than Kellie. It does make sense. Len has always had in for Aliona and there was no need for him to bring Jay's Jive into Ore's comments,
Judges have their favourites and producers also favour some partnerships.”
So you think TPTB want Kevi to win no matter what?
I think Aliona has been treated badly by the production/executive side of the BBC. I'm not surprised she's angry, it was bad form to discuss Jay's jive, but I cannot see how or why TPTB would/could manipulate a Kevi win. And I'm a Kevi fan.
Originally Posted by Huph:
“No way was Jay the judges favourite. I think Bruno and to an extent Darcy got him but Len and Craig certainly didn't.”
“No way was Jay the judges favourite. I think Bruno and to an extent Darcy got him but Len and Craig certainly didn't.”
Where is this evidence that they wanted Kellie to win?. Jay didn't dance that well in the final and had a poor showdance but the rest of the weeks when he danced well he was rewarded I don't get it.
Originally Posted by Dilly 1:
“I don't think it was that the judges were biased in the final, but that Kellie had a much better final than Jay did. He was the worst of the night (imo) so just maybe the judges thought so too.”
“I don't think it was that the judges were biased in the final, but that Kellie had a much better final than Jay did. He was the worst of the night (imo) so just maybe the judges thought so too.”
Spoken for truth . Golden boy didn't dance anywhere near as well as kellie on the night , but he worked hard all the series on his ickle boy lost act and totally scammed soooooo many viewers that in the end I wasn't even annoyed that he won because I knew it was in no way a dance related win . Silly Aliona should just face it , he could have danced like a cart horse (and sometimes did) and still would have won cos like he looks well cute with his curly mop and blue eyes innit .😇
Originally Posted by Christopher D:
“Where is this evidence that they wanted Kellie to win?. Jay didn't dance that well in the final and had a poor showdance but the rest of the weeks when he danced well he was rewarded I don't get it.”
“Where is this evidence that they wanted Kellie to win?. Jay didn't dance that well in the final and had a poor showdance but the rest of the weeks when he danced well he was rewarded I don't get it.
”
Did Kellie deserve the marks she got in the final? Maybe for the charleston and her showdance but her getting a 40 for the tango (ridiculous) set the tone for the final.
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