Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“I like Aliona, so I have to believe that she knows what she is doing.
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“I like Aliona, so I have to believe that she knows what she is doing.
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BIB Always
Aliona's Twitter rant.
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Can I just say that I love , love, love her pinned tweet 
? it is SO Aliona
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrlY42oWcAAPYle.jpg
? it is SO Aliona https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrlY42oWcAAPYle.jpg
Lets face it we may be looking at two Cliftons in the final this year
they havent got a Kevin win yet so they are just doubling their chances
Lens last season has to end with a Clifton win his bias shines like moonlight on an outhouse door
they havent got a Kevin win yet so they are just doubling their chances
Lens last season has to end with a Clifton win his bias shines like moonlight on an outhouse door
Originally Posted by Ochre:
“I've always been a fan of Aliona but I felt quite upset for Jo reading her Tweets that 'repeating silly kicks' didn't mean more content and that in the dress run the producers had tried the dark wig on Jo to make her look like Aliona.
Aliona really ought to show Jo the professional respect she deserves. Jo sat out last series and was very gracious about it. Now it's her moment, let her have that and her brother be rightly proud without receiving criticism. Jo is a phenomenal dancer and teacher and not only choreographed a content packed, entertaining wow routine but managed to coach Ore to dance it to that level within a few days which was no mean feat.”
“I've always been a fan of Aliona but I felt quite upset for Jo reading her Tweets that 'repeating silly kicks' didn't mean more content and that in the dress run the producers had tried the dark wig on Jo to make her look like Aliona.
Aliona really ought to show Jo the professional respect she deserves. Jo sat out last series and was very gracious about it. Now it's her moment, let her have that and her brother be rightly proud without receiving criticism. Jo is a phenomenal dancer and teacher and not only choreographed a content packed, entertaining wow routine but managed to coach Ore to dance it to that level within a few days which was no mean feat.”
Well said. My sentiments exactly, how spiteful and unprofessional this makes Aliona look. No need to remind anyone again, but out of the 2 ladies, who is a former World Champion?? Show some respect please, Aliona.
I have seen Anton and Brendan in their theatre shows and both of them said Aliona was not pleasant during the q and a's!
It has been pretty well established over the past few years that Aliona is very talented and attractive, but not at all a nice person, with a massive ego. She is certainly showing her true colours now!
As for the BBC conspiracy nonsense that people keep coming up with, well it's just laughable - anyone with an ounce of common sense realises that all the BBC care about is viewing figures, viewing figures, viewing figures.
Also, there is not a shred of evidence that they have a vested interest in the Clifton family, but still the haters persist - pathetic really.
Still, it all makes for alively thread, I suppose!
As for the BBC conspiracy nonsense that people keep coming up with, well it's just laughable - anyone with an ounce of common sense realises that all the BBC care about is viewing figures, viewing figures, viewing figures.
Also, there is not a shred of evidence that they have a vested interest in the Clifton family, but still the haters persist - pathetic really.
Still, it all makes for alively thread, I suppose!
oh dear she blocked me on twitter.
All i said was come on youre better than this - and she was started to sound as deranged as the jordans.
She won twice and i thought left on a high, with dignity too. I get that bringing their jive into ores feedback wasnt very nice but to then go on a massive geoblocking rant is nuts. Im only sorry really i didnt have the chance to unfollow her before the block lol.
All i said was come on youre better than this - and she was started to sound as deranged as the jordans.
She won twice and i thought left on a high, with dignity too. I get that bringing their jive into ores feedback wasnt very nice but to then go on a massive geoblocking rant is nuts. Im only sorry really i didnt have the chance to unfollow her before the block lol.
Re: judges mentioning Jay's jive. I'm sure in the past (pre Jaliona) they've compared jives to Jill's. I don't think Darren Bennett ever went ballistic on Twitter. But then I doubt if Darren cares that much since he quickly moved on to other (and in my view better) things, such as adjudicating and coaching.
Originally Posted by RedRoseRebel:
“oh dear she blocked me on twitter.
All i said was come on youre better than this - and she was started to sound as deranged as the jordans.
She won twice and i thought left on a high, with dignity too. I get that bringing their jive into ores feedback wasnt very nice but to then go on a massive geoblocking rant is nuts. Im only sorry really i didnt have the chance to unfollow her before the block lol.”
“oh dear she blocked me on twitter.
All i said was come on youre better than this - and she was started to sound as deranged as the jordans.
She won twice and i thought left on a high, with dignity too. I get that bringing their jive into ores feedback wasnt very nice but to then go on a massive geoblocking rant is nuts. Im only sorry really i didnt have the chance to unfollow her before the block lol.”
I have been blocked too, but I have not said anything to her
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“That was due to an injury wasn't it? Was it to Natalie? You have to wonder how Strictly history would have unravelled itself had it not been for that happening. Maybe Jo would have dance with Jay instead...
Len lacked class by bringing a previous Jive in in a negative manner like he did. It was unncessary and just stoked up ill feeling in some quarters. It's probably done Ore and Jo no favours either with some; on the flip side I think Danny and Oti's fan base may have grown slightly after last week.
In relation to the general theme of the thread - of course the producers manipulate to a point; they have to otherwise there would be a lack of storylines and journeys to invest in. Do they care who wins? I think they would have preferred another winner last year so each pro only had one 'main series' victory each but they would hardly look to destroy the show over it (even though the final had a very sour feel about it - Darren was better treated in the series 3 final comments wise when he was by far the worst dancer, even if he did finish bottom of the leaderboard).
I'm sure some of this would irritate and still irritate the pros but they know where their bread is buttered. Aliona, Ola and James no longer have that backing and, to put it politely, as they all have firey personalities they're more likely to make a point about it when they see it happening.”
“That was due to an injury wasn't it? Was it to Natalie? You have to wonder how Strictly history would have unravelled itself had it not been for that happening. Maybe Jo would have dance with Jay instead...
Len lacked class by bringing a previous Jive in in a negative manner like he did. It was unncessary and just stoked up ill feeling in some quarters. It's probably done Ore and Jo no favours either with some; on the flip side I think Danny and Oti's fan base may have grown slightly after last week.
In relation to the general theme of the thread - of course the producers manipulate to a point; they have to otherwise there would be a lack of storylines and journeys to invest in. Do they care who wins? I think they would have preferred another winner last year so each pro only had one 'main series' victory each but they would hardly look to destroy the show over it (even though the final had a very sour feel about it - Darren was better treated in the series 3 final comments wise when he was by far the worst dancer, even if he did finish bottom of the leaderboard).
I'm sure some of this would irritate and still irritate the pros but they know where their bread is buttered. Aliona, Ola and James no longer have that backing and, to put it politely, as they all have firey personalities they're more likely to make a point about it when they see it happening.”
I said at the time of the final that it was held in a horrible atmosphere. What should really have been a celebration of the series was just one long grumpfest with week one dances. We know the judges can bite the bullet and pretend the winner is their choice - they gave Chris Hollins all 10's for his Charleston in a 'no, honest, we luv him and think he deserves to win' defuse attempt but for some reason last year they seemed to revert back to the us versus them atmosphere of the Tom final. - because that's always fun. Especially when they haul it across into the next year and totally unrelated people find themselves dragged into it.
Originally Posted by Ann_Dancer:
“Re: judges mentioning Jay's jive. I'm sure in the past (pre Jaliona) they've compared jives to Jill's. I don't think Darren Bennett ever went ballistic on Twitter. But then I doubt if Darren cares that much since he quickly moved on to other (and in my view better) things, such as adjudicating and coaching.”
“Re: judges mentioning Jay's jive. I'm sure in the past (pre Jaliona) they've compared jives to Jill's. I don't think Darren Bennett ever went ballistic on Twitter. But then I doubt if Darren cares that much since he quickly moved on to other (and in my view better) things, such as adjudicating and coaching.”
I suspect it was the relish with which Len made his comment, plus it was only a year later.
There has been sour grapes from Len over who has won for a few years now. Not all years, but a good few.
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“Lets face it we may be looking at two Cliftons in the final this year
they havent got a Kevin win yet so they are just doubling their chances
Lens last season has to end with a Clifton win his bias shines like moonlight on an outhouse door”
“Lets face it we may be looking at two Cliftons in the final this year
they havent got a Kevin win yet so they are just doubling their chances
Lens last season has to end with a Clifton win his bias shines like moonlight on an outhouse door”
I'm not a regular contributor but why are there so many horrid and bitter posts about the Cliftons?. They seem decent people and very good dancers, they are not treated as far as I can tell any worse or any better than anyone else.
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“I have been blocked too, but I have not said anything to her”
“I have been blocked too, but I have not said anything to her”
Which is just bizarre to be honest and doesn't really reflect well on her.
It just makes it looks like she's having a tantrum because he ego's been bruised.
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Big push for Kellie's partner than Kellie. It does make sense. Len has always had in for Aliona and there was no need for him to bring Jay's Jive into Ore's comments,
Judges have their favourites and producers also favour some partnerships.”
“Big push for Kellie's partner than Kellie. It does make sense. Len has always had in for Aliona and there was no need for him to bring Jay's Jive into Ore's comments,
Judges have their favourites and producers also favour some partnerships.”
I agree with this actually - Snowdonia anyone?
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“IMO this series is the most "Manipulated" ever and I posted to say that last week. From some of the Judges comments and scores to the outfits and Wigs some the Celebs have had to wear the whole thing reeks to me.”
“IMO this series is the most "Manipulated" ever and I posted to say that last week. From some of the Judges comments and scores to the outfits and Wigs some the Celebs have had to wear the whole thing reeks to me.”
There are times I think when the narrative is manipulated I think or there's attempts to do it. Like season eleven they were desperate a female winner - series six they definately wanted the two women in the final and Tom Chambers nowhere near it. There were far too generous to Lisa Riley towards the end of her in run in series ten too.
Also it is kinda of noticeable how Kevin hasn't had a dud yet - he may always be the bridesmaid in his words but at least he's made the wedding every year. I don't think he's catching the bonquet this year either.
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“I suspect it was the relish with which Len made his comment, plus it was only a year later.
There has been sour grapes from Len over who has won for a few years now. Not all years, but a good few.”
“I suspect it was the relish with which Len made his comment, plus it was only a year later.
There has been sour grapes from Len over who has won for a few years now. Not all years, but a good few.”
Len could have got up out of his chair cheering, put up bunting and lights proclaiming Jill's jive beaten and, even then, I don't think Darren would have reacted in the same way as Aliona. This isn't about Len. It is about Aliona and her unprofessional behaviour.
Originally Posted by edy10:
“Hmmmm....I know a lot of people here cant stand the Jordans and trust me I have my gripes towards them but a lot of the things that they say makes sense. It is just that some people dont like them that they dont want to believe that it is true. Aliona is usually or actually tries to be really diplomatic......I knew they were manipulations going on...hell we speculate about this all the time...oh well......
For Aliona to go on and on about this and retweet some of the things she is retweeting... this is pretty serious.......I am a bit shocked tbh.
This year so far has been nothing full of controversies.”
“Hmmmm....I know a lot of people here cant stand the Jordans and trust me I have my gripes towards them but a lot of the things that they say makes sense. It is just that some people dont like them that they dont want to believe that it is true. Aliona is usually or actually tries to be really diplomatic......I knew they were manipulations going on...hell we speculate about this all the time...oh well......
For Aliona to go on and on about this and retweet some of the things she is retweeting... this is pretty serious.......I am a bit shocked tbh.
This year so far has been nothing full of controversies.”
The last part's not true - there has been so great dancing and last Saturday apart even Ed Ball has been that bad. I feel very sad that because Len was a prat I had to drag Jaolina into his judging comments and Kevin was loyal but perhaps not diplomatic that we have this. This can only hurt Ore and that ladies and gentleman is bad because whether you believe he was better than Jay or Danny or not (and it's a debatable point I refuse to engage with because they're all great and the good is not the enemy of the better) it was a great jive and it's not his fault this shitstorm's gone down.
I don't believe the conspiracy aspect when it comes to the Cliftons - Kevin yes but Joanne no. She was dude a good one after a dud and a year on the bench as was Ote - it's great seeing what they can do.
Originally Posted by katmobile:
“There are times I think when the narrative is manipulated I think or there's attempts to do it. Like season eleven they were desperate a female winner - series six they definately wanted the two women in the final and Tom Chambers nowhere near it. There were far too generous to Lisa Riley towards the end of her in run in series ten too.
Also it is kinda of noticeable how Kevin hasn't had a dud yet - he may always be the bridesmaid in his words but at least he's made the wedding every year. I don't think he's catching the bonquet this year either.”
“There are times I think when the narrative is manipulated I think or there's attempts to do it. Like season eleven they were desperate a female winner - series six they definately wanted the two women in the final and Tom Chambers nowhere near it. There were far too generous to Lisa Riley towards the end of her in run in series ten too.
Also it is kinda of noticeable how Kevin hasn't had a dud yet - he may always be the bridesmaid in his words but at least he's made the wedding every year. I don't think he's catching the bonquet this year either.”
Series 3 which was basically sub-titled 'It's harder for men' (blokey bloke men especially). I think they were starting to get twitchy that it might be hard to attract male celebs and it seems that 2 wins on the trot is the maximum for either gender and panic ensues.
I would guess that most celebs start the series with a storyline arc - its just that sometimes it seems rather inflexible, even in the face of what is actually happening and like they are trying to bang a round plot line in the a square hole of reality.
Originally Posted by Ann_Dancer:
“Len could have got up out of his chair cheering, put up bunting and lights proclaiming Jill's jive beaten and, even then, I don't think Darren would have reacted in the same way as Aliona. This isn't about Len. It is about Aliona and her unprofessional behaviour.”
“Len could have got up out of his chair cheering, put up bunting and lights proclaiming Jill's jive beaten and, even then, I don't think Darren would have reacted in the same way as Aliona. This isn't about Len. It is about Aliona and her unprofessional behaviour.”
Good point
All reality TV shows have a narrative. It's not a new thing, they don't fix the winner they just shape a story.
I thought the way some Jay and Aliona fans went in on Kevin for congratulating his sister was a bit ridiculous but now Aliona has come out with what I can only describe as a rant driven by bitterness and quite nasty. Now she's blocking anyone who doesn't stroke her ego. I feel sorry for Ore being dragged into the middle of this, but Jo didn't need nor deserve the disrespect from Aliona either. Out of all the ex pro dancers, she's been extremely lucky and the first one to win twice. It just reeks of pretty ego. Shame.
I thought the way some Jay and Aliona fans went in on Kevin for congratulating his sister was a bit ridiculous but now Aliona has come out with what I can only describe as a rant driven by bitterness and quite nasty. Now she's blocking anyone who doesn't stroke her ego. I feel sorry for Ore being dragged into the middle of this, but Jo didn't need nor deserve the disrespect from Aliona either. Out of all the ex pro dancers, she's been extremely lucky and the first one to win twice. It just reeks of pretty ego. Shame.
Originally Posted by Ann_Dancer:
“Len could have got up out of his chair cheering, put up bunting and lights proclaiming Jill's jive beaten and, even then, I don't think Darren would have reacted in the same way as Aliona. This isn't about Len. It is about Aliona and her unprofessional behaviour.”
“Len could have got up out of his chair cheering, put up bunting and lights proclaiming Jill's jive beaten and, even then, I don't think Darren would have reacted in the same way as Aliona. This isn't about Len. It is about Aliona and her unprofessional behaviour.”
Agreed and Darren's had more reason to be peed off as well since not only he sidelined and then sacked from the show but his wife was too.
Aliona has a touch of the 'Donald Trumps' about her.
Totally driven to succeed, and, if she doesn't it must be someone elses fault (rigged)
Mind you- if you said 'Which is more likely to be rigged- the US election, or 'Strictly', I'd have to go with 'Strictly'.
Totally driven to succeed, and, if she doesn't it must be someone elses fault (rigged)
Mind you- if you said 'Which is more likely to be rigged- the US election, or 'Strictly', I'd have to go with 'Strictly'.
Originally Posted by FiercelyHip:
“All reality TV shows have a narrative. It's not a new thing, they don't fix the winner they just shape a story.
I thought the way some Jay and Aliona fans went in on Kevin for congratulating his sister was a bit ridiculous but now Aliona has come out with what I can only describe as a rant driven by bitterness and quite nasty. Now she's blocking anyone who doesn't stroke her ego. I feel sorry for Ore being dragged into the middle of this, but Jo didn't need nor deserve the disrespect from Aliona either. Out of all the ex pro dancers, she's been extremely lucky and the first one to win twice. It just reeks of pretty ego. Shame.”
“All reality TV shows have a narrative. It's not a new thing, they don't fix the winner they just shape a story.
I thought the way some Jay and Aliona fans went in on Kevin for congratulating his sister was a bit ridiculous but now Aliona has come out with what I can only describe as a rant driven by bitterness and quite nasty. Now she's blocking anyone who doesn't stroke her ego. I feel sorry for Ore being dragged into the middle of this, but Jo didn't need nor deserve the disrespect from Aliona either. Out of all the ex pro dancers, she's been extremely lucky and the first one to win twice. It just reeks of pretty ego. Shame.”
Agreed
Such shame Joanne gets her first real contender and this happens - whoever's fault it is it's not hers or Ore's.
Originally Posted by Christopher D:
“Well I was not supporting either Jay or Kellie so the person who I thought deserved to win had no chance. I just don't see it and anyway most of the voters have already made their mind up who they want as champ.”
“Well I was not supporting either Jay or Kellie so the person who I thought deserved to win had no chance. I just don't see it and anyway most of the voters have already made their mind up who they want as champ.”
Helen supporter? - if so I feel your pain.
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“I think so many factors play a part and some of them can be manipulated by the producers.
1) Good partner
2) Get the hard Latin dances out early ( what happened to Pixie)
3) Good song
4) Good slot
5) God father as a judge. ( Had to add it in)”
“I think so many factors play a part and some of them can be manipulated by the producers.
1) Good partner
2) Get the hard Latin dances out early ( what happened to Pixie)
3) Good song
4) Good slot
5) God father as a judge.
( Had to add it in)”
So who has a Godfather as a judge
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