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Old 21-10-2016, 22:56
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We have bin/recycling issues, money problems, people struggling to pay rent, stealing and debt a common reoccurring themes of EE of late, are theses sub plots to low brow and boring or is it building up to something bigger?

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Old 21-10-2016, 22:59
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Personally I find it dull and crap, reminds me of Newman's era. For stuff like this to be the main focus doesn't make for great viewing, there needs to be a balance. However it's still early days for SOC hopefully he has big stuff planned and these everyday crap sls are not going to be a common occurance.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:06
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Personally I find it dull and crap, reminds me of Newman's era. For stuff like this to be the main focus doesn't make for great viewing, there needs to be a balance. However it's still early days for SOC hopefully he has big stuff planned and these everyday crap sls are not going to be a common occurance.
I agree, it can add to the episodes but when literally nothing happens for weeks on end like any sort of drama and we're hearing about recycling for the 3rd week it starts to get dull, we need a common ground between the mundane and the exciting.

I'm hoping its building character and development for some stuff, fingers crossed.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:06
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It's terminally dull. Even Newman would struggle to get this much out of a bloody driving plot. Hundreds of thousands of viewers deserted the show due to DTCs fan fiction crap, the way to get them back is not by boring the remaining viewers to death.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:07
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There are a few s/l that are holding my interest..

Lee's depression.
Steven cooking the books and where Peter fits in.
Dot's health.
Denny's bullying, although I expect this is going to be long term.
Jay's story. Is he still on the drugs and has he ruined Billy's chance of keeping his new job.
Denise and Kush. Very much on the back burner for now but more to come.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:07
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I really felt for Jane when the binmen refused to take her contaminated recycling, then I realised it was probably old bits of Lucy.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:09
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Its ok but needs to pick up. Although the character interactions Are better.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:09
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I think the episodes are flowing fine but we really do need a gripping storyline. I see a lot of stuff bubbling away under the surface, for example I don't think this Lee story is going to end well but everything is taking so long to get moving.

I do think it would help if SOC gave us an interview into his insight for the show.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:10
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I think the episodes are flowing fine but we really do need a gripping storyline. I see a lot of stuff bubbling away under the surface, for example I don't think this Lee story is going to end well but everything is taking so long to get moving.

I do think it would help if SOC gave us an interview into his insight for the show.

This is spot on.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:11
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Add Denise's pregnancy and not telling Phil into the equation along with the transplant SL
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:13
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It's terminally dull. Even Newman would struggle to get this much out of a bloody driving plot. Hundreds of thousands of viewers deserted the show due to DTCs fan fiction crap, the way to get them back is not by boring the remaining viewers to death.
That has been a downer Kim's stupidity riding rampant, I like SOC getting the show back on a even kill by going 'low key' but we need something to keep us gripped.

There are a few s/L's that are holding my interest..

Lee's depression.
Steven cooking the books and where Peter fits in.
Dot's health.
Denny's bullying, although I expect this is going to be long term
Jay's story. Is he still on the drugs and has he ruined Billy's chance of keeping his new job.
Denise and Kush. Very much on the back burner for now but more to come.
They do look interesting and are cooking along but its rather slow atm, I guess patience is a virtue lets hope it pays off!

I really felt for Jane when the binmen refused to take her contaminated recycling, then I realised it was probably old bits of Lucy.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:14
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I think the episodes are flowing fine but we really do need a gripping storyline. I see a lot of stuff bubbling away under the surface, for example I don't think this Lee story is going to end well but everything is taking so long to get moving.

I do think it would help if SOC gave us an interview into his insight for the show.
Yes Skittle
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:16
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We have bin/recycling issues, money problems, people struggling to pay rent, stealing and debt a common reoccurring themes of EE of late, are theses sub plots to low brow and boring or is it building up to something bigger?

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It's not edge of the seat stuff, but you can't have constant high drama, stunts, whodunits and so on. It's supposed to be life in Albert Square. That's life - sometimes dull and full of small stuff.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:22
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We have bin/recycling issues, money problems, people struggling to pay rent, stealing and debt a common reoccurring themes of EE of late, are theses sub plots to low brow and boring or is it building up to something bigger?

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For anyone over 40 that's watched from 19.02.85, this IS what Enders used to be (and why I fell in love with it). For those used to a cliffhanger every ep or week, probably less so.

Low brow is character driven drama of the original soaps. Building up to something bigger - yes, should be some shocks but not stunts. UK soaps were created to show "people like us", where drama is from daily stuff not a car crash or explosion every week.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:37
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No, for me this isn't where the shows strengths are. EE IMO was much better at the hard, gritty dramatic stuff, the character driven stuff they did worked better back when they had better characters like Pauline, Pat and Den etc.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:46
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For anyone over 40 that's watched from 19.02.85, this IS what Enders used to be (and why I fell in love with it). For those used to a cliffhanger every ep or week, probably less so.

Low brow is character driven drama of the original soaps. Building up to something bigger - yes, should be some shocks but not stunts. UK soaps were created to show "people like us", where drama is from daily stuff not a car crash or explosion every week.
Yep ,this is how I see it too ,and much prefer it to all the Cliffhanger/big production stuff every episode/week
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:50
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We definitely need Gritty stuff back soon.
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Old 21-10-2016, 23:57
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Yep ,this is how I see it too ,and much prefer it to all the Cliffhanger/big production stuff every episode/week
We didn't even get that with DTC. What we got was the ludicrous. Twists and turns that made no sense, drippy Gavin, a who dun it that dragged on a year too long, and every character ruined.

As far as I can see the new guy has spentbthe last few weeks just trying to make them all human again, and a fine job he's doing.
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Old 22-10-2016, 00:07
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We didn't even get that with DTC. What we got was the ludicrous. Twists and turns that made no sense, drippy Gavin, a who dun it that dragged on a year too long, and every character ruined.

As far as I can see the new guy has spentbthe last few weeks just trying to make them all human again, and a fine job he's doing.
Totes agree Valerie.
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Old 22-10-2016, 00:12
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There are a few s/l that are holding my interest..

Lee's depression.
Steven cooking the books and where Peter fits in.
Dot's health.
Denny's bullying, although I expect this is going to be long term.
Jay's story. Is he still on the drugs and has he ruined Billy's chance of keeping his new job
.
Denise and Kush. Very much on the back burner for now but more to come.
BIB Agree with all of these, definitely the best of what's on offer atm
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Old 22-10-2016, 00:19
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The contrast with the other two main soaps couldn't be more pronounced than it was this week. Car crashes and explosions in both Corrie and Emmerdale. Low key character-driven stories in EastEnders.

Jane learning to cope with her disability is one of the most touching and realistic stories EastEnders has done for ages. And I'm also really enjoying Lee's story at the moment too. If it's not your kind of thing fair enough, but nobody can complain that there's nothing going on. There's plenty, it just isn't "in your face" drama and cliffhangers like it was before. I'm really enjoying SOC's approach and I hope it carries in this vein. There's only so much I can take of the constant affairs/murders/who's the daddy plots we had before.

I'm not getting the "it's like Newman" thing either. Newman's era was full of unlikeable and uninteresting characters (*cough* the Brannings) and the writing was appalling. The same cannot be said for SOC's work so far.
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Old 22-10-2016, 00:19
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It's getting like Newman's era again.
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Old 22-10-2016, 00:32
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Well after watching Emmerdale this week Eastenders needs to wake up and start producing Drama and forget about the boring episodes
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Old 22-10-2016, 00:37
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Well after watching Emmerdale this week Eastenders needs to wake up and start producing Drama and forget about the boring episodes
SOC needs to step out of the 80's and realise that there are 100's of channels and Netlix for people to choose from.
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Old 22-10-2016, 01:40
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This is an intriguing era, perhaps more so than any that has gone before.

For a very long time, one of EE's biggest weaknesses was day-to-day episodes; unless there was some big drama, they were always interminably dull. Now we've had weeks of day-to-day episodes and they are well written and well pitched. Genuinely the only thing I haven't liked is Whitney and Lee's miscarriage, which they've both moved on from offensively quickly.

This is nothing like the Newman era; I remember tuning in now and again during that period and was genuinely horrified at how bad the show had become. It was so turgid, heavy and incredibly poorly written. I couldn't believe this was the same show I had enjoyed regularly until a couple of years earlier.

SOC's approach has been rather jarring as it couldn't be more different to DTC's. But I now find myself getting lost in episodes, whereas before it would just be on while I was doing something else. I'm sure the big stories will come, but for now the show just feels like it can breathe, and there isn't constant drama every five seconds with no substance, no feeling and no real purpose. It's calmer, it's better written and the interaction is also miles better.

Okay it's not the 80s anymore, and the show does not have that calibre of cast it had in the 80s, and never will again. But quite frankly, it was so badly damaged for so long that yeah, maybe it was time to go back to the drawing board. I do think we need some kind of dramatic storyline soon, but on the whole I have good vibes. Corrie and Emmerdale have disappeared up their own backsides into la-la-land. What made EE so successful in the first place was that it lead the way, it was influential on other soaps. Lead, not follow is the path to success, and I think SOC's EE might do just that.
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