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Old 22-10-2016, 07:56
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Why are none of the Barlows questioning why Simon is half black?
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Old 22-10-2016, 08:57
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I've always thought the same of Adam Barton in Emmerdale. Did Moira have yet another affair we know nothing about?
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Old 22-10-2016, 09:41
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This has been discussed and argued about several times in the past. No-one knows the actor's actual parentage - it's never been said.

Because he's only 14 all there is is speculation, which could all be wrong because personal information about children in the media is rarely disclosed.. Could be from a previous generation and not his parents.
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Old 22-10-2016, 09:57
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This has been discussed and argued about several times in the past. No-one knows the actor's actual parentage - it's never been disclosed. All there is is speculation, which could all be wrong. Could be from a previous generation and not his parents.
This was discussed on the show?
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Old 22-10-2016, 09:59
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I've always thought the same of Adam Barton in Emmerdale. Did Moira have yet another affair we know nothing about?
I actually Moira and Adam look genuine as mother and son. The Moira actress herself is quite exotic looking.
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:01
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This was discussed on the show?
Not on the show - on here. Why would they mention anything on the show when nothings know about the actor in real life. Its just an assumption that he's mixed race and could be wrong.

I've edited my post to say that personal information is rarely disclosed, so there's only speculation and it isn't actually anyone's business.
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:06
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Why are none of the Barlows questioning why Simon is half black?
Elephant in the room? could be seen as borderline offensive to some. The answer must lie in his heritage. As for complexion and race sometimes it isn't always clear cut
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:17
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Elephant in the room? could be seen as borderline offensive to some. The answer must lie in his heritage. As for complexion and race sometimes it isn't always clear cut
How is it offensive? you do understand the term Elephant In The Room don't you?

Its a perfectly legit question to ask.
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:22
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It's not a legit question because Simon is a character and you're getting personal about the person employed to act out the character.

You have to ask yourself why you even care enough to raise the question.
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:22
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Why are none of the Barlows questioning why Simon is half black?
Because it's not actually part of the script for them to do so.
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:25
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It's not a legit question because Simon is a character and you're getting personal about the person employed to act out the character.

You have to ask yourself why you even care enough to raise the question.
Because its becoming more and more obvious the older he gets.

I hope you aren't trying to imply I'm racist.
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:27
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Does it really matter? not all actors who play parts are the race they are supposed to be, and looks can be deceiving, take Rita Ora, whose parents are Albanian. http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti.../Riat-MAIN.jpg


Perhaps you think he is black because he has tight curls? I think they chose him as he was such a cute little boy, that often changes at puberty.
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:34
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Because its becoming more and more obvious the older he gets.

I hope you aren't trying to imply I'm racist.
They do say, if the cap fits, wear it.
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:35
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Because its becoming more and more obvious the older he gets.

I hope you aren't trying to imply I'm racist.


To call into question an actors race and name it 'the elephant in the room' is quite a thing. Simon is a confirmed Barlow so I honestly don't see the problem. I just don't understand the need to start a discussion on an actors skin colour - I really don't.
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:35
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Does it really matter? not all actors who play parts are the race they are supposed to be, and looks can be deceiving, take Rita Ora, whose parents are Albanian. http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti.../Riat-MAIN.jpg


Perhaps you think he is black because he has tight curls? I think they chose him as he was such a cute little boy, that often changes at puberty.
Poor Chesney.
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:37
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How is it offensive? you do understand the term Elephant In The Room don't you?

Its a perfectly legit question to ask.
Elephant in the room is metaphor for an obvious truth is going unaddressed? It's not been confirmed we can assume he's mixed race we don't know the actors or character's heritage. Race and complexion isn't always straight forward. The term or expression also applies to an obvious problem or risk no one wants to discuss. Is Simon's race a risk or an obvious problem? it could also suguest that because of the colour of Simon's skin he stands out for the wrong reasons. If Simon was or clearly looked Caucasian perhaps we wouldn't be having this discussion? Just my thoughts
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:39
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I actually Moira and Adam look genuine as mother and son. The Moira actress herself is quite exotic looking.
Agreed Moira and Adam work as mother and son as Natalie is quite olive skinned, what made Adam stand out was the rest of his family, the sisters particularly.

Same for Simon and Peter, they are believable but wasn't Simons real mum fair skinned and blonde?
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:45
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Agreed Moira and Adam work as mother and son as Natalie is quite olive skinned, what made Adam stand out was the rest of his family, the sisters particularly.

Same for Simon and Peter, they are believable but wasn't Simons real mum fair skinned and blonde?
Yes Anne Reid played her

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...2_2730474c.jpg

Oh edit, I see you meant Simon's mother!

I think she was played by the actress who played Snowball in Bad Girls.
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:47
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Agreed Moira and Adam work as mother and son as Natalie is quite olive skinned, what made Adam stand out was the rest of his family, the sisters particularly.

Same for Simon and Peter, they are believable but wasn't Simons real mum fair skinned and blonde?
And we don't know his mother's heritage either. It isn't an issue that needs to be discussed. End of.
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Old 22-10-2016, 12:06
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Actually I think it is an issue. It is a case of bad casting. The young actor who plays him is getting darker as he gets older. I don't know what his ethnicity is and I don't care. I am not racist in any way. But he clearly does not look like the offspring of two white people. That is not being racist it is stating a fact.
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Old 22-10-2016, 12:14
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Simon could have African/Afrocarribean ancestery. It is possible.
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Old 22-10-2016, 12:19
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Simon could have African/Afrocarribean ancestery. It is possible.
Yes he could but it's never been referred to.
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Old 22-10-2016, 12:24
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Yes he could but it's never been referred to.
No it hasn't. Perhaps it's time it was to make his storylines more interesting.
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Old 22-10-2016, 12:33
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No it hasn't. Perhaps it's time it was to make his storylines more interesting.
If properly and sensitively explored it could be a great storyline for him.

Have his anger issues been properly dealt with? No doubt with Peter's return they will resurface. He has every reason to be angry but needs to learn new coping skills so that he does not act out inappropriately. I would like to see this dealt with once and for all.
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Old 22-10-2016, 12:36
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If properly and sensitively explored it could be a great storyline for him.

Have his anger issues been properly dealt with? No doubt with Peter's return they will resurface. He has every reason to be angry but needs to learn new coping skills so that he does not act out inappropriately. I would like to see this dealt with once and for all.
You and I could write a great script. I totally agree with your take on Simon.
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