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I was a bit puzzled at the end too. At least two school children/young people were killed during the episode and yet . . police??
I suppose the big question is... why would the school remain open? Wouldn't the Daily Mail be baying for blood? In recent years they've had one teacher killed in a road accident (not really relevant, but you know how the press are). Another teacher has (presumably) gone missing, and so has another student. Just as well it was at different times, otherwise they'd link those too... but they'll probably have a good go anyway. And then, of course, there was that business back in the 1960s... a 15 year old girl and two teachers go missing at the same time - the girl has never been found to this day but the teachers mysteriously reappeared nearly two years later. They must have had a really good explanation, because one of them was appointed to the board of governors !
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Not looking good in the iPlayer chart to me. Episode 1 is nowhere near the top-10 and episode 2 isn't even in the top-40.
For an iPlayer exclusive, that can't be a success. No doubt when it gets shown on proper TV, people will blame poor ratings on "most people" having already watched it online... Either way, I thought it was a vast improvement over the current main series, and wonder if Patrick Ness will - in the fullness of time - replace Chibnall. I think the problem is, for a spin-off to work, the main show needs to have enough momentum to project it into the public conciousness. As things stand, I think Class's Achilles heel is being a Doctor Who spin-off show rather than being seen as "Original British Drama®". |
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Yes, I dont know why but I get a really good and giddy feeling whenever they use the early series' music, because it was really eerie and spooky especially Series 1 with the Have you seen this man? Conspiracy site, and The Bad Wolf theme and Meme, and the whole death follows in his wake.
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Just a though that came into my mind, the reason why I loved SJA more so than Torchwood and even the Main series at times was the fact that, it didn't try so hard to be adult and down with the kids, and the fact they weren't obssessed with the aesthetics of the show, even if they weren't targeting a YA demographic at points it felt really mature and dealt with grown up concepts it just came naturally, it gave kids some credit. It also made space seem really big those magical moments when Sarah Jane and the gang will stare out the attic window into space and when she'd talk about all shes seen with The Doctor and how dangerous it was and those beautiful night time shots with a goregous soundtrack.
I also loved how sometimes the kids were left to fend for themselves like when The Trickster took Sarah Jane out of time and existence and Maria wasn't affected by the new established timeline because of the puzzlebox, yet she pulled through and got to the bottom of it. The writers really made you care for them and Sarah Jane and their families, defending the world from an Attic in Ealing. Class is good I see what the characters are going through but I'm not really feeling them if you know what I mean., Maybe I just need more episodes who knows. ![]() The Doctor's theme is a wonderful piece of music - so otherworldly and mysterious. When you hear it you feel anything could happen and whatever does happen will be amazing. |
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...and one S. Foreman, interestingly.
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Will ep 3 be out on Saturday?
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Was any part named after Ian Chesterton?
I'm guessing Ian is still alive (William Russell certainly is). Ian was Chair of Governors when Clara worked at Coal Hill. |
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Will ep 3 be out on Saturday?
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The names were on a board which I assume was commemorating past staff / pupils who had died.
I'm guessing Ian is still alive (William Russell certainly is). Ian was Chair of Governors when Clara worked at Coal Hill.
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Just got round to watching the first two episodes, overall I think it is quite good but with the two episodes being similar in plot, pacing and the situation it put the characters in it is all a bit samey so far.
I am keen to see what the third episode is like in terms of threat and what situation this puts the characters in, if it is different then I would be looking forward to the rest of the series more. As I said it I think it is quite good so far, I like that it is gritty, bloodthirsty and gory, it initially surprised me as I was not expecting these qualities as much, but I think going forward I like these aspects and also a couple of the characters I find interesting. Especially Quill played by Katherine Kelly with what I perceive to be a very good otherworldly performance so far. These aspects are the most promising in it for me to keep watching with interest. The parts with the Doctor were excellent in the first episode, even the scene where the Tardis appeared with the soundtrack/effect that accompanied it gave me goosebumps, love that music . As I say keen to see if the third episode is a change in style and plot from the first two episodes, but it still is a good program even it continues in a similar vein. |
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Gave up mid way through episode 2.
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Gave up mid way through episode 2.
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I don't blame you. The writing for the characters isn't too bad but the whole intention to make it a more edgy and violent version of Buffy is misplaced. I'm not sure who the target audience is to be honest. Too adult for kids, too childish for adults, too boring and cheesy for it's demographic.
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Speaking from that demographic, I find it interesting and relatively well made... not without flaws and early episode teething problems (far less than a good many shows, less than either previous spin-off for that matter), but I'm really enjoying it.
It's lack of clarity in its idea after episode 3 is rather worrying. Torchwood and Sarah Jane Adventures were much clearer after their third episode with the scope for the series looking quite wide ranging. This is the total opposite... |
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Finally got around to watching the first episode (didn't have much enthusiasm prior, it was sort of a 'i'll get around to it' type thing). Mixed thoughts really.
Firstly, I'll admit, on the first episode alone, it doesn't seem as bad as I thought it was going to be, and the episode was overall enjoyable, if a little clunky in places. Secondly, i'd say the sci fi plot interested me more than the characters. For much of the first part of the episode, I was thinking 'get on with it' for the sci fi elements rather than just the drawn out 'characters meet' stuff'. I only really felt interest in April and Miss quill as characters. April because she was the only one who seemed written well and as someone I could sympathise with, and Miss quill purely for laughs because they wrote her very much like Missy. They could pretty much kill off every other character in episode 2 and I wouldn't care. As I say i've only watched one episode so far, and, like others have said, I'm not sure if it will feel too samey when I watch further episodes and it's just the school getting invaded again week in and out with a slightly different villain, and at this stage I don't think I'm ever going to take to most of the characters, but April, Miss quill and interesting plots may be enough to keep my interest. It hasn't got the concept range to be up there with Torchwood, but the key to whether it will succed or fail, I feel, will be whether or not it can vary the individual episode storylines of an overall rather confined premise enough to make it feel different each time. So basically overall, liked episode 1 enough to try episode 2 at some point, but at the same time not exactly desperate to watch it either. P.s Why exactly did one of the shadow monsters randomly decide to attack Tanya in her bedroom? She was nothing to do with anything and of no interest to them at that point so there didn't seem any particular story reason for it at all. P.P.s Noticed a lot of talk on these Class threads about the diversity of the cast and I have to say, in some things it feels like they try to make a point of such things, and in other things it feels like natural casting, and with this, it definitely felt natural to me. Throughout most of it no one made a big deal of anyone's race or sexuality and I wouldn't have really even thought about it had I not seen it being discussed on these threads. The reason why I say 'throughout most of it' though is because I didn't see why there was a need for Tanya to make seemingly anti white people comments multiple times in the episode, or why such comments were even deemed ok to be in the script.. |
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P.P.s Noticed a lot of talk on these Class threads about the diversity of the cast and I have to say, in some things it feels like they try to make a point of such things, and in other things it feels like natural casting, and with this, it definitely felt natural to me. Throughout most of it no one made a big deal of anyone's race or sexuality and I wouldn't have really even thought about it had I not seen it being discussed on these threads. The reason why I say 'throughout most of it' though is because I didn't see why there was a need for Tanya to make seemingly anti white people comments multiple times in the episode, or why such comments were even deemed ok to be in the script.. I didn't notice any anti-white remarks, though. Perhaps I was too busy fuming at the Americanisms.
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I've watched the first episode and I have to say I'm not too impressed. I could live with the Doctor setting up this "team", then leaving them to their own devices (I mean, he pretty much knows their future because he's a Timelord) and not involving UNIT.
But... The characters' reaction to the threat was unbelievable to me. They knew the attack was life and death and would resume at the prom the next day, but they did nothing to prepare for it and nothing to stop the prom. They weren't shown even trying to cancel it or involve the authorities. Or even run away. They didn't so much as block the doors. Or trigger a fire alarm. They just let the prom happen. I wouldn't expect YA's (or most adults, for that matter) to "take charge", but this lot's efforts were feeble. A few posters on the wall at the event doesn't cut it. I know this is science fantasy, and some will say "Why are you bothered by this, but not aliens and wormholes, etc, etc ?" but it is important for good drama to give the human characters realistic behaviours even in incredible situations. If, as the audience, you don't buy into the characters, it fails as a drama. I'll be watching more, but I hope the standard of plotting gets better. |
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It wasn't the race or sexuality of the characters that was particularly noticeable. I wasn't thinking of box ticking then. It was when April's mother rolled in in a wheelchair that it made me laugh and realise how many boxes were being ticked, I presume deliberately.
I didn't notice any anti-white remarks, though. Perhaps I was too busy fuming at the Americanisms. ![]() |
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Granny, and another character straight from the cliche box - April's Dad has just been released from prison.
Why am I not surprised?Do we know what's happened to Ram's mother - noticeable by her absence in the 2 episodes I watched? |
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Speaking from that demographic too, I find it poorly made, averagely acted and not at all representative of my age group. None of the way the characters act is relatable to me.
It's lack of clarity in its idea after episode 3 is rather worrying. Torchwood and Sarah Jane Adventures were much clearer after their third episode with the scope for the series looking quite wide ranging. This is the total opposite... Torchwood was even weaker still. Apart from offing Suzie, the first episode was incredibly by-the-numbers, which a pilot shouldn't ever quite feel. The second episode missed the point of the premise entirely and like several episodes in the first series sounded like a creepy kid in a basement had been asked to deliver what he thought were adult stories. The third was the strongest but was largely forgettable, and made no attempt to make any of the main cast likeable - Captain Jack in particular was a dull character for the most part, not as fun as his appearances in Doctor Who but not interested or well-layered enough to lead the thing. Just my opinion of course, and the above criticisms are all in spite of the fact that I really rather enjoyed both spin-offs all in all. I just think Class has so far been better made, better acted, and better paced all in spite of the fact that it surely has a smaller budget than the other spin-offs did, and fewer episodes to tell its story. I've just found it to be the most satisfying, with plenty of room for improvement, but enough going for it to keep me watching.
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Just watched ep6. Not sure about it. It was good that they examined the inter-relationships which went a long way to explain why the "team" haven't been a team up to now, but it was at the expense of any sense of excitement and pace (not enough running along corridors, I guess!).
Next week looks as though it balances that out though... K edit: posted in wrong thread! |
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