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Wonder why Virgin mobile are so behind the curve.
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Thine Wonk
24-10-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“BT Mobile have always had 4G, they also don't own EE...

BT Mobile is an MVNO of BT Consumer, a division of the BT Group, EE is another division of the BT Group.”

BT own BT mobile and also own EE, you'd have to be crazy to think that it isn't easier to talk to each other and that the parent doesn't have an overall mobile strategy and a say in what each can and can't do, or that BT was having talks with EE for a long time and managed to get 4G where other MVNOs didn't... none.
moox
24-10-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“BT Mobile have always had 4G, they also don't own EE...

BT Mobile is an MVNO of BT Consumer, a division of the BT Group, EE is another division of the BT Group.”

Is that not textbook pointless pedantry? The point being made was pretty clear - BT owns and controls both entities, and in time will likely cull the overlap. No more EE home broadband, no more BT Mobile.

Except for Openreach there's pretty much no distinction to be made between all of BT's lines of business. And even Openreach's separation isn't good enough, that's why Ofcom is pushing for action short of a spinoff, with a separate board and CEO
Thine Wonk
24-10-2016
Originally Posted by carguy143:
“I've been on BT Mobile since August 2015 and they've always had 4g whilst I've been on them.”

BT acquired EE in Feb 2015 after several months of talks. No idea when they actually got access to resell EE 4G but they are the only EE MVNO which has been able to.
d123
24-10-2016
Originally Posted by moox:
“Is that not textbook pointless pedantry? The point being made was pretty clear - BT owns and controls both entities, and in time will likely cull the overlap. No more EE home broadband, no more BT Mobile.

Except for Openreach there's pretty much no distinction to be made between all of BT's lines of business.”

Like Plusnet and BT Broadband?
moox
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“Like Plusnet and BT Broadband?”

Different demographics, both providers were dominant entities, etc. Not comparable. Plusnet employees are BT employees now. No doubt they're working on integrating the ex-EE lot too.

EE home broadband is pretty small, BT mobile is absolutely tiny.
Richard1960
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“BT acquired EE in Feb 2015 after several months of talks. No idea when they actually got access to resell EE 4G but they are the only EE MVNO which has been able to.”

Thats not quite true VM is able to offer business mobile customers 4G via EE ,so for business customers VM has access to EE 4G,but not for consumer customers ,very odd.
Richard1960
29-10-2016
Now transferred to 3 am very impressed with the 4G.
beans0ntoast
01-11-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Their broadband needs to stop throttling upload and just offer whatever speed people have paid for though, also the upload is very poor compared to BT etc I think they should look into that side of it really as they have a bad reputation with gamers, Youtubers and streamers do to that policy, which BT don't have.”

This!!!

Virgin Media Broadband used to be 30Mbps download for my area, upload speed was shocking though at just 2Mbps, going down to 1Mbps after just 750MB usage and down to 0.75Mbps after 1GB usage! How ridiculous was that! EE 3G was outperforming those speeds, with EE4G blowing them out of the water - and since I am armed with a 16GB SIM, I can do plenty of uploading.

They have since "upgraded" our area to the 70Mbps package, but download speeds are not much better than what they used to be on the 30Mbps package - and during evenings/weekends, EE 4G on my SINGLE SPEED mast (30Mbps max) has been known to outperform Virgin media 70Mbps broadband! Uploads are 5Mbps, absolutely disgusting as the nearest BT/Sky equivalents (76Mbps down) are offering up to 20Mbps upload speed. And Virgin restrict uploads again, down to 2.5Mbps after just 1.2GB usage, and then down to 1.75Mbps after 1.5GB usage. DISGRACEFUL!!!

Thank goodness for my EE SIM as I can do all my uploading over 4G!
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