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Old 04-12-2016, 10:41
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Well that was quite a bad finale in my opinion. It had too much going on and then to be fair it just whimpered out into nothing.

Quite simply, there's not been enough care and attention on the characters to care for them and their losses. Did we even know the names of Ram's dad and Tanya's mum? There was no connection with them so their deaths meant nothing at all. Coupled with the barely any grieving, it just makes Class come across as superficial.

The use of the Shadow Kin again was painful to watch. They've been badly written as villains and their storyline has been so condensed that understanding their motives etc in the midst of the April control has got too muddied up for me. Still struggling to understand the Shadow Kin as well isn't helpful either.

None of the characters were that likeable either. Charlie became an idiot while Tanya's involvement in the gang explains her behaviour a little, it just again feels too sudden a development. The characters change so often in Class that you just can't believe them.

April and Ram were still unbelievable as a couple and Charlie and Matteusz to that matter as well. There was not enough time building them up as characters before pairing them off. That's just plain bad writing, no matter what some on here keep telling me.

The excuse that 8 episode isn't enough keep being trotted out again and that just irks me. 8 episodes is more than enough but when you lose one episode to Quill in a forest, the gang still had 7 episodes to develop in. They simply didn't. 7 episodes is more than enough time.

7 episodes was more than enough time to build up the world of Class - it never did. 7 episode was more than enough time to make the characters progress naturally and work as a team - that never happened.

That is bad writing. Simple.

And the fact, the finale had the gall to end of a cliffhanger said it all to me. It simply doesn't warrant a second series. It was a mess from start to finish. They were glimmers of something there, but too many problems from the get-go have been its downfall.

If it doesn't come back, I won't miss it.
Agree with all of this, but the fact they felt the need to end on a cliffhanger sums up the show for me. No payoff, no nothing throughout the season and they threw a "hail mary" in the hopes for people to want to see a 2nd season. The worst thing about the cliffhanger for me is the complete lack of originality.

Ness must have been thinking how do we make this interesting since absolutely nothing we have done on this show is enticing. So they used a very big Doctor Who monster, used the shopkeeper in the SJA and completely ripped off the watchers in Buffy. That screams to me we can't succeed from what we have done on this show, so lets still ideas from other shows and take very important members of two other Doctor Who related shows to try and get people interested.
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Old 04-12-2016, 13:05
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Having just watched the first two episodes of Westworld, i'm now a lot more forgiving of Class! For all its big budget and big stars, WW, so far, is a confusing mess (at least to me!). Class did very well on a much much (repeat until the muchness factor is about right!) smaller budget and mainly unknown leads.


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Old 04-12-2016, 13:09
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Having just watched the first two episodes of Westworld, i'm now a lot more forgiving of Class! For all its big budget and big stars, WW, so far, is a confusing mess (at least to me!). Class did very well on a much much (repeat until the muchness factor is about right!) smaller budget and mainly unknown leads.


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I haven't seen Westworld but it has gotten very good reviews.
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Old 04-12-2016, 13:20
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I haven't seen Westworld but it has gotten very good reviews.
Perhaps it improves later but i watched it with my two 23-yr old sons and our conclusion was "meh"!

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Old 04-12-2016, 16:55
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I would guess the Shadow Kin may turn up in Who proper, presumably because they'll want to use the costumes again.

The 'I have a positive vision' scene felt like a million Big Finish cliffhangers wherein the Celestial Toymaker or somesuch turns up unexpectedly half way through the story.
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Old 04-12-2016, 18:30
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I saw the finale and it made no sense. I'm all for cliffhangers but when the writing is like Class it's not going to be good. Using the Weeping Angels as villains sounds desperate, the character deaths while shocking were totally unnecessary and were there just for the shock value. Poor, poor, poor.
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Old 04-12-2016, 19:33
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They don't have enough ties to Doctor Who to warrant the spin-off mantra at all, but then they include an iconic Doctor Who villain and suddenly the show is desperate. It really seems the show just cannot win.

As for the argument about unnecessary deaths... why should death always be necessary? The whole point was that these deaths were unnecessary, and merciless. I would say that they actually pave the way to bring the group closer together in a second series... Quill's got her baby and her maternal instincts kick in a bit more. She's already got Charlie and (presumably after a brief break) Matteusz under her roof. Tanya's now an orphan, Ram only has a distant relation with his mother it seems, and April's busy being not quite herself. I could see this as a means to unite them all in a more 'family' way, maybe have a base of operation that they can effectively use.

I'm actually glad it ended with a couple of dangling plot points... it means if or when the show comes back people won't be able to resort to the 'it was wrapped up and finished' argument when they come to criticise it.

Whether the angels story plays out in Doctor Who or in Class I look forward to it. I hopefully look forward to a second series of Class, as I have so far found it refreshingly enjoyable, and the few issues I have with the characters can also hopefully be ironed out over more episodes. The writing hasn't been groundbreaking but I didn't ask for it to be, it did a brilliant job as far as I'm concerned, and managed a lot in its eight episodes... which isn't really enough alone for spin-off-establishing, ensemble-cast-introducing, world-building and then the storytelling all in one go. I'd maybe not have had the two-parter in the middle if it were me running the whole thing - I enjoyed it but it made the back half of the series feel very heavy and crowded. Again, would have been helped by a standalone episode or two along the way to break up the bigger story. But as far as this forum is concerned I'm a minority with that opinion...as has always been the case since Class was announced, funnily enough
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Old 05-12-2016, 00:02
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They don't have enough ties to Doctor Who to warrant the spin-off mantra at all, but then they include an iconic Doctor Who villain and suddenly the show is desperate. It really seems the show just cannot win.

As for the argument about unnecessary deaths... why should death always be necessary? The whole point was that these deaths were unnecessary, and merciless. I would say that they actually pave the way to bring the group closer together in a second series... Quill's got her baby and her maternal instincts kick in a bit more. She's already got Charlie and (presumably after a brief break) Matteusz under her roof. Tanya's now an orphan, Ram only has a distant relation with his mother it seems, and April's busy being not quite herself. I could see this as a means to unite them all in a more 'family' way, maybe have a base of operation that they can effectively use.

I'm actually glad it ended with a couple of dangling plot points... it means if or when the show comes back people won't be able to resort to the 'it was wrapped up and finished' argument when they come to criticise it.

Whether the angels story plays out in Doctor Who or in Class I look forward to it. I hopefully look forward to a second series of Class, as I have so far found it refreshingly enjoyable, and the few issues I have with the characters can also hopefully be ironed out over more episodes. The writing hasn't been groundbreaking but I didn't ask for it to be, it did a brilliant job as far as I'm concerned, and managed a lot in its eight episodes... which isn't really enough alone for spin-off-establishing, ensemble-cast-introducing, world-building and then the storytelling all in one go. I'd maybe not have had the two-parter in the middle if it were me running the whole thing - I enjoyed it but it made the back half of the series feel very heavy and crowded. Again, would have been helped by a standalone episode or two along the way to break up the bigger story. But as far as this forum is concerned I'm a minority with that opinion...as has always been the case since Class was announced, funnily enough
Well I find I agree with pretty much everything in your post. I enjoyed the series as it went on a very good penultimate episode with Quill's story being my favourite. While the finale was slightly rushed towards the end, it still kept me interested and I enjoyed the drama and cliffhanger ending. I was happy with what the arc of the Governors is being revealed in this way, and setting up the second series presumably.
While the writing has been a little hit and miss in parts, it has a quirky edge and feel to the characters and setup which for me has been refreshing and enjoyable. So I'll join you in the minority on this one.
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Old 06-12-2016, 02:43
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They don't have enough ties to Doctor Who to warrant the spin-off mantra at all, but then they include an iconic Doctor Who villain and suddenly the show is desperate. It really seems the show just cannot win.

As for the argument about unnecessary deaths... why should death always be necessary? The whole point was that these deaths were unnecessary, and merciless. I would say that they actually pave the way to bring the group closer together in a second series... Quill's got her baby and her maternal instincts kick in a bit more. She's already got Charlie and (presumably after a brief break) Matteusz under her roof. Tanya's now an orphan, Ram only has a distant relation with his mother it seems, and April's busy being not quite herself. I could see this as a means to unite them all in a more 'family' way, maybe have a base of operation that they can effectively use.

I'm actually glad it ended with a couple of dangling plot points... it means if or when the show comes back people won't be able to resort to the 'it was wrapped up and finished' argument when they come to criticise it.

Whether the angels story plays out in Doctor Who or in Class I look forward to it. I hopefully look forward to a second series of Class, as I have so far found it refreshingly enjoyable, and the few issues I have with the characters can also hopefully be ironed out over more episodes. The writing hasn't been groundbreaking but I didn't ask for it to be, it did a brilliant job as far as I'm concerned, and managed a lot in its eight episodes... which isn't really enough alone for spin-off-establishing, ensemble-cast-introducing, world-building and then the storytelling all in one go. I'd maybe not have had the two-parter in the middle if it were me running the whole thing - I enjoyed it but it made the back half of the series feel very heavy and crowded. Again, would have been helped by a standalone episode or two along the way to break up the bigger story. But as far as this forum is concerned I'm a minority with that opinion...as has always been the case since Class was announced, funnily enough
Because the Angel has nothing to do with the show, it was just attention grabbing to remind people that this indeed is a Doctor Who spinoff, much like the Doctor's appearance in the first episode. Entirely not required, but there to show it is a Doctor Who Spinoff.

This is a genuine question, imagine The Doctor didn't appear the first episode and you are at the final scene before the Weeping Angel, does anything about the show indicate Doctor Who to you? Any links what so ever? I see none. With SJA we had a former companion, we also had K9, we had UNIT and plenty of things to do with it, we had Sarah remembering her times with The Doctor, we had Slitheen in multiple full episodes, Judoon, Shadow proclomation etc etc The links were there to see that it is the same universe.

Then in Torchwood, we have a former companion again, the extension of the Torchwood branch, The Doctor's hand, Vortex Manipulator's, the aftermath of the S2 Finale with the cyberwoman, mentions of that day in the first episode with Gwen and what the world thought. Then Martha was in it for a few episodes and then Jack, Ianto and Gwen actually on the main show. The connection was there from the start, on Class it isn't. The only link is the school, but the problem is they don't even do anything at the school which leads to one of my complaints about the show not knowing what it wants to be.

The deaths were unnecessary because we have no connection to these people, we just don't care about them. We have already see the Shadow Kin make some merciless deaths, ramming home the point doesn't make it any more shocking. All which they did was ridding very important characters just for a shock factor, with if the first shock death is anything to go by, no consequences. What would be useful would be when you actually decide to kill a main character, make sure the audience cares, you can get shock and emotion. While these deaths were neither and just went for the hail mary that maybe this might just entice enough people for a 2nd series.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:45
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Because the Angel has nothing to do with the show, it was just attention grabbing to remind people that this indeed is a Doctor Who spinoff, much like the Doctor's appearance in the first episode. Entirely not required, but there to show it is a Doctor Who Spinoff.

This is a genuine question, imagine The Doctor didn't appear the first episode and you are at the final scene before the Weeping Angel, does anything about the show indicate Doctor Who to you? Any links what so ever? I see none. With SJA we had a former companion, we also had K9, we had UNIT and plenty of things to do with it, we had Sarah remembering her times with The Doctor, we had Slitheen in multiple full episodes, Judoon, Shadow proclomation etc etc The links were there to see that it is the same universe.

Then in Torchwood, we have a former companion again, the extension of the Torchwood branch, The Doctor's hand, Vortex Manipulator's, the aftermath of the S2 Finale with the cyberwoman, mentions of that day in the first episode with Gwen and what the world thought. Then Martha was in it for a few episodes and then Jack, Ianto and Gwen actually on the main show. The connection was there from the start, on Class it isn't. The only link is the school, but the problem is they don't even do anything at the school which leads to one of my complaints about the show not knowing what it wants to be.
There were references to UNIT in several episodes of the series (I can recall at least three, subtle as they were). There was also a reference to the Zygons in the penultimate episode. They also referred to the Doctor in a couple of episodes without him actually appearing.

I'm sorry, I don't usually pick apart arguments on here, and still believe any opinion is valid (as in if you didn't like it, you didn't like it), but it seems ridiculous that in the same post you praise the previous spin-offs for their inclusion of former companions, and Cyberwomen, and stories including the Slitheen and the Judoon... and then in the very same post you criticise Class for the inclusion of the Doctor and the Weeping Angels. You deem the inclusion of the Doctor as unnecessary, but then in the same sense the Slitheen weren't required for the first series of The Sarah Jane Adventures - the threat in those stories could have pretty much been anything, and was utterly changeable, and they opted to use some costumes they already had in waiting. I think it's also unfair to use it against Class that the characters of Torchwood and SJA crossed over briefly into Doctor Who - Class, being brand new, hasn't had that opportunity so far. But in both cases it was a decision from the writer to include these Who-related elements when they did. Neither is ultimately necessary, but both serve their purpose in tying a spin-off to the parent show.

You criticise Class for not having any links to Doctor Who if you "imagine The Doctor didn't appear the first episode and you are at the final scene before the Weeping Angel"... you're asking for a lot of dismissal of reality just to justify your argument. Those things were included, those links were there... whether you like them is down to individual opinion, but you can't just dismiss these elements and then cry foul that the show's links to Doctor Who are tenuous.

It seems you're demanding something incredibly specific from Class here... if it includes the Weeping Angels at all it has to do so by giving them a whole episode. If the Doctor is to appear then he needs to be a lot more front and centre. In other words, you're looking for an episode of Doctor Who. At a push, you're looking for an episode of Class that has the time to spend getting nostalgic over parent-show references...when again with just eight episodes, it had to establish its own characters and content. Fuel for the fire really... yet another reason you could argue that eight episodes just isn't enough (I won't make an argument for that though, I was happy with the degree of Who-references in Class).

The deaths were unnecessary because we have no connection to these people, we just don't care about them. We have already see the Shadow Kin make some merciless deaths, ramming home the point doesn't make it any more shocking. All which they did was ridding very important characters just for a shock factor, with if the first shock death is anything to go by, no consequences. What would be useful would be when you actually decide to kill a main character, make sure the audience cares, you can get shock and emotion. While these deaths were neither and just went for the hail mary that maybe this might just entice enough people for a 2nd series
Well I cared, and that's all there is to it for me. Did I care like I did when Clara died in Face the Raven? No. Did I care like I did when characters in Buffy died suddenly and mercilessly? No. The reason? Again, that episode count. You can argue it two ways - that there aren't enough episodes, or that the show tried to do too much in too little time. Both are valid arguments, and I prefer to argue that it didn't have enough episodes - rather a show that does too much than too little, regardless of how many episodes it has to work with. It's precisely why I think a few more episodes would have benefited.

Looking to Doctor Who for examples of what I mean... Love & Monsters is an episode with very few fans. There's a lot to criticise about it, and whilst I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as many do (Fear Her was much worse I thought) I share people's opinions when it comes to those criticisms. But in spite of that negative reputation, Jackie Tyler gets one of her best ever scenes in this episode - the plot is largely monster-of-the-week albeit dressed in a unique Doctor-lite format, but it's these small moments that you're afforded by having a surplus of stories with your characters that make you care. As a Doctor-lite story it's probably the one episode that wouldn't have made the final cut if the total was reduced to 12...and we would have lost those important Jackie scenes. One of the Eleventh Doctor's best speeches was in The Rings of Akhaten, another divisive episode with only so many fans. The character of Wilf is massively popular and was never more integral than in The End of Time, which is at odds with the Wilf-popularity because it is seldom considered a fan favourite. In all these cases, it's about having room to breathe. World-building and character-development both demand it... no amount of good writing will perfect setting and characters if there isn't time to reflect on them and again eight episodes just isn't enough for that perspective. That's a criticism of Class. Frame it how best suits you... that it should have had more episodes, that it should have had less characters (if you like the characters, you're going to go for the 'more episodes' argument) or whatever. But even then that doesn't always mean death is meant to always have a specific point. And in the case of Class here, it's not as if these characters died and the episode demanded that we focus on that and mourn them heavily. It's a case of characters dying and the focus being the people who are left behind to pick up the pieces. There was little time to do that here, but equally the show didn't gloss over it and I don't doubt that it'll play a huge part in the dynamics of any second series. And if shaping the entire direction of the show isn't a sense of consequence I don't know what is.
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Old 06-12-2016, 05:22
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There were references to UNIT in several episodes of the series (I can recall at least three, subtle as they were). There was also a reference to the Zygons in the penultimate episode. They also referred to the Doctor in a couple of episodes without him actually appearing.

I'm sorry, I don't usually pick apart arguments on here, and still believe any opinion is valid (as in if you didn't like it, you didn't like it), but it seems ridiculous that in the same post you praise the previous spin-offs for their inclusion of former companions, and Cyberwomen, and stories including the Slitheen and the Judoon... and then in the very same post you criticise Class for the inclusion of the Doctor and the Weeping Angels. You deem the inclusion of the Doctor as unnecessary, but then in the same sense the Slitheen weren't required for the first series of The Sarah Jane Adventures - the threat in those stories could have pretty much been anything, and was utterly changeable, and they opted to use some costumes they already had in waiting. I think it's also unfair to use it against Class that the characters of Torchwood and SJA crossed over briefly into Doctor Who - Class, being brand new, hasn't had that opportunity so far. But in both cases it was a decision from the writer to include these Who-related elements when they did. Neither is ultimately necessary, but both serve their purpose in tying a spin-off to the parent show.

You criticise Class for not having any links to Doctor Who if you "imagine The Doctor didn't appear the first episode and you are at the final scene before the Weeping Angel"... you're asking for a lot of dismissal of reality just to justify your argument. Those things were included, those links were there... whether you like them is down to individual opinion, but you can't just dismiss these elements and then cry foul that the show's links to Doctor Who are tenuous.

It seems you're demanding something incredibly specific from Class here... if it includes the Weeping Angels at all it has to do so by giving them a whole episode. If the Doctor is to appear then he needs to be a lot more front and centre. In other words, you're looking for an episode of Doctor Who. At a push, you're looking for an episode of Class that has the time to spend getting nostalgic over parent-show references...when again with just eight episodes, it had to establish its own characters and content. Fuel for the fire really... yet another reason you could argue that eight episodes just isn't enough (I won't make an argument for that though, I was happy with the degree of Who-references in Class).

Well I cared, and that's all there is to it for me. Did I care like I did when Clara died in Face the Raven? No. Did I care like I did when characters in Buffy died suddenly and mercilessly? No. The reason? Again, that episode count. You can argue it two ways - that there aren't enough episodes, or that the show tried to do too much in too little time. Both are valid arguments, and I prefer to argue that it didn't have enough episodes - rather a show that does too much than too little, regardless of how many episodes it has to work with. It's precisely why I think a few more episodes would have benefited.

Looking to Doctor Who for examples of what I mean... Love & Monsters is an episode with very few fans. There's a lot to criticise about it, and whilst I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as many do (Fear Her was much worse I thought) I share people's opinions when it comes to those criticisms. But in spite of that negative reputation, Jackie Tyler gets one of her best ever scenes in this episode - the plot is largely monster-of-the-week albeit dressed in a unique Doctor-lite format, but it's these small moments that you're afforded by having a surplus of stories with your characters that make you care. As a Doctor-lite story it's probably the one episode that wouldn't have made the final cut if the total was reduced to 12...and we would have lost those important Jackie scenes. One of the Eleventh Doctor's best speeches was in The Rings of Akhaten, another divisive episode with only so many fans. The character of Wilf is massively popular and was never more integral than in The End of Time, which is at odds with the Wilf-popularity because it is seldom considered a fan favourite. In all these cases, it's about having room to breathe. World-building and character-development both demand it... no amount of good writing will perfect setting and characters if there isn't time to reflect on them and again eight episodes just isn't enough for that perspective. That's a criticism of Class. Frame it how best suits you... that it should have had more episodes, that it should have had less characters (if you like the characters, you're going to go for the 'more episodes' argument) or whatever. But even then that doesn't always mean death is meant to always have a specific point. And in the case of Class here, it's not as if these characters died and the episode demanded that we focus on that and mourn them heavily. It's a case of characters dying and the focus being the people who are left behind to pick up the pieces. There was little time to do that here, but equally the show didn't gloss over it and I don't doubt that it'll play a huge part in the dynamics of any second series. And if shaping the entire direction of the show isn't a sense of consequence I don't know what is.
Because the Angel and The Doctor weren't in the show or episode naturally, it is shoehorned in as were the incredibly minimal UNIT references. It is clear as day they'd never interfere with this universe, correct me if i am wrong but i swear i remember on the show that UNIT doesn't interfere with what goes on with that rift, that it is the governors business. Believe it was mentioned in the Quill only episode.

And i mentioned those examples because both those spinoffs seamlessly show that it is part of the Doctor Who universe. RTD made the show in his time like a community and it helped the shows have a structure of what they wanted to do. While Class doesn't, it desperately wants to be in the Doctor Who universe but has nothing to link it and it leads to the show not knowing what it wants to do. As in it is set in the school, they haven't done anything in the school that you'd expect a show with that setting to have. Its direction becomes aimless and the lack of ability for the show to know what it wants has killed it.

You say you cared, tell me what are the names of the people who died? You constantly mention the problems of the show yet say it is forgivable because it is 8 episodes. Sorry but 8 episodes is plenty enough time to have some world building and is also no excuse to rush character development. Usually development, world building is done in the background of every episode and is not usually the focus, this show ignored both of those completely. I'll compare this to Buffy again as clearly the show was going for this, the first 2 episodes dealt with the seasonal arc, all laws and stuff we needed to know about the show, it told us how it was a small town, what was cool to do in the town, we met students, teachers, who the popular kids are, who isn't popular etc etc etc. In 2 episodes, you seem to have the idea if you want to tell an arc or an individual story there isn't time for world building and continual development. But this stuff should be in every episode, that is what good writing does.

We'll just have to agree to disagree, but Class is probably the most poorly written show i've watched in a long time. I've also never seen a show ever as insular as Class either and this includes shows i have seen just 1 episode in.
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Old 06-12-2016, 10:06
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Well I find I agree with pretty much everything in your post. I enjoyed the series as it went on a very good penultimate episode with Quill's story being my favourite. While the finale was slightly rushed towards the end, it still kept me interested and I enjoyed the drama and cliffhanger ending. I was happy with what the arc of the Governors is being revealed in this way, and setting up the second series presumably.
While the writing has been a little hit and miss in parts, it has a quirky edge and feel to the characters and setup which for me has been refreshing and enjoyable. So I'll join you in the minority on this one.
Budge up.

That pretty much sums up my feelings. I gave it a go because of the Who connection, obviously, and because I like Katherine Kelly as an actor. As I'm most definitely not a YA I didn't know what to expect, and whilst it was never going to reinvent the wheel, I found Class mostly very enjoyable. It's not a thing I analyse too much, but I was diverted and engaged throughout. By the end of the series, I had found the characters and set up generally interesting, and would be happy for another series.

This is quite a contrast to the first series of Torchwood, where I didn't really give a flying darn about any of them, tbh. Said before on here, I think Suzie was my favourite character!
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Old 07-12-2016, 22:21
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Any word whether this is due to be renewed. Have heard snippets that the viewing figures have been poor. Doesn't bode well....
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Old 07-12-2016, 22:25
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Any word whether this is due to be renewed. Have heard snippets that the viewing figures have been poor. Doesn't bode well....
I would think they'll wait till it's aired on BBC1 (and in the U.S) before making a firm decision on renewal.
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Old 09-12-2016, 16:01
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Overall, I think the show was something of a hit and miss. I just finished it up today.

It didn't offer anything really new as a spin-off, a genre show or even a teen show. A lot of things it attempted to do have been done somewhat better on other shows past and present to be honest.

The characters themselves weren't terrible but could've engaged a little more. Quill was the more successful in that regard though and Katherine Kelly stole the show, especially in the penultimate episode. The parental characters were fairly ineffectual to be honest.

Shadow Kin looked great but lacked menace. The Arrival storyline seems genuinely interesting but may never get explored if the show isn't picked up for a second series.

The promotion for the show has been shockingly bad though and not giving it a terrestrial timeslot (BBC2 would be a better suit than BBC1) as well as a BBCA airing shortly after BBC3 released each episode online was pure insanity, especially considering the likes of Canada, Australia and New Zealand have been airing the show.

If the show gets a second series, I'll watch it but I honestly it would benefit Ness if he just wrote the first and last episodes and got some other writers to pen the episodes in between. However if it's cancelled, I won't be devastated by that.
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Old 10-12-2016, 14:15
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I enjoyed it. I think perhaps it will have sadly fallen between two stools in terms of its potential target audience and I can't help but feel that until BBC3 rivals the titans of Amazon Prime and Netflix, that putting a show online only is tantamount to airing it in the middle of the night with no advertising.

The show wasn't perfect, but it was much better than S1 of "Torchwood" and as for the "shoehorned" references, I'd rather a casual mention of UNIT or Zygons than a sexy Cyberwoman episode or another Slitheen romp because the costumes are there and no one at Doctor Who wants to use them any more!
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Old 10-12-2016, 17:10
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I think I agree with most of the points above so won't restate them. Over all I think Class' biggest issue was that it was a spin off from Doctor Who. If they had just done it as a drama in its own right I think they would have avoided a lot of issues.
I enjoyed it on a superficial level but did keep forgetting a new episode was available until days later. If I didn't think too much about it it was ok if a little too violent for the sake of it. But the moment you start thinking about any angle of it it just fell apart. Mainly why doesn't OFSTED do something about so many people dying in the school?

I don't see the point of a series two.
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Old 16-12-2016, 23:05
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Class starts its BBC1 broadcast on Monday 9th January at 10.45pm
Info from https://twitter.com/bbcclass/status/809414191547191296
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Old 17-12-2016, 11:03
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I think I agree with most of the points above so won't restate them. Over all I think Class' biggest issue was that it was a spin off from Doctor Who. If they had just done it as a drama in its own right I think they would have avoided a lot of issues.
I enjoyed it on a superficial level but did keep forgetting a new episode was available until days later. If I didn't think too much about it it was ok if a little too violent for the sake of it. But the moment you start thinking about any angle of it it just fell apart. Mainly why doesn't OFSTED do something about so many people dying in the school?

I don't see the point of a series two.
Maybe the only reason the whole Shoreditch area isn't cordoned off by UNIT is because of the Governors' influence. They obviously have some interest in keeping things quiet, and seem powerful enough to make the matter a media blackout.
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Old 17-12-2016, 15:40
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Class starts its BBC1 broadcast on Monday 9th January at 10.45pm
Info from https://twitter.com/bbcclass/status/809414191547191296
A Monday at nearly 11pm at night? Not exactly a prime slot.
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Old 17-12-2016, 15:49
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A Monday at nearly 11pm at night? Not exactly a prime slot.
It was never going to get a primetime slot.

Now this way when it inevitably tanks, the BBC can be justified in probably cancelling it.
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