I believe he went to a school which had its own theatre. I cannot believe he didn't do some form of theatrical performance in the time he was there.

People here are obsessed with formal training. (I don't mean you, fridgesoup, just commenting on your post.) Hey, some people might have never come across a formal training for a passion they've had - perhaps they didn't want their career to go that way so they didn't pay for training. But this doesn't mean they would be less able given the opportunity.
I don't understand this fixation with paid lessons to learn something. Do you mean if you don't pay for lessons you may never be good at anything?
Because if it's that I disagree.

....but what about dance training?

What if people just like to dance? They danced in any opportunity, were able to learn tricky dance moves, but why on earth should they pay for lessons if they are not intending to make it a career?
If you've always liked to dance but had not formal training, in what category does this put you?

I think all this background checking is irrelevant. You can learn to dance from music videos, if you're into it.

I suppose what people are getting at is that formal classes/training in almost any dance discipline would give an advantage in some basic elements (balance, posture, timing, learning choreo, isolations...I dunno what really, I'm not trained ).

Some people are just naturals. Maybe Ore is simply someone with natural ability, who loves to dance (in a normal, real-world sense), lacks inhibition and is a good student.

I don't know enough about dance to say, but I don't get 'trained dancer' from his posture because I don't think it's that great . Maybe one of the dancers here could comment.

Not guilty this time if so!!!


If you're going to talk about Let's Dance for Comic Relief, on that logic you are saying pretty much EVERY celebrity and their son has been taught dance - or are you specifically pointing out Ore being taught because he did a pretty good job?

I went to a school that had its own theatre and a substantial majority of people there would never have been in any sort of theatrical performance.

My genuine cynical view I'm afraid.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but she wasn't sat looking on YouTube at the performance, it was sent to her asking for comment. Anyone in her position would be thrilled to be reminded of stuff her husband did etc. Then Ore, self publicist and no one for hiding his light under a bushel has it pinned to his Twitter with the my god, is this happening, blah blah. Cue more tears.

He was even trying to generate hype over being hit in the goolies wasn't he?

And I went to a school with its own shooting range, I guess I should be in the SAS!

It was sent to her by Matthew Bourne.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Bourne

BIB: For all his faults. Ore dealt with that mildly compared to me.

If Gene Kelly's widow ever said anything close about my dancing, I would plaster her comments absolutely everywhere - starting with my forehead!

Bah!
I went to a school with a science lab.
How come I'm not working at CERN.

Many of the comments here tell us more about the people who write them than about the celeb. I'm amazed that people should chose to show themselves up like this in public.

I have no problem with Ore having done some dancing before. He just needs to stop telling us how nervous he was and stop gushing over Jo and I'll like him again as he's basically a good egg.

Well my brother and I agree, definitely do not get trained dancer from Ore either, see him as a rough diamond - fit, good mover and learning fast - my brother also believes his sports science background enables him to understand the training (foot postition weight position etc) so is quick at picking up what he is being taught.

With someone like Danny you can see he has had a fair bit of training (good body posture, balance and great spins) but i can also see he has not done ballroom and latin - particularly in this weeks rumba with arms and at times body action, I have no problem with someone with dance training in the show as long as it is not ballroom and latin training which I believe Danny has not had.

I know who he is.

The plot thickens. I read it was a reader from the radio times.

I agree would be absolutely blown away by that too, and for those who are hinting that Ore or Jo sent the youtube clip to Patricia Kelly it was in fact one of her friends Sir Matthew Bourne who sent the clip to her - and I would be chuffed by praise off him let alone Pat

No, no plot the Reporter for the Radio times contacted her AFTER she saw the comments on twitter that Pat Kelly had put the video on her facebook page and asked for her comments

Thanks bendy. Interesting point about his sports science background. The show needs a range of abilities, so I've no problem with Danny's background either. What I find difficult to see with him, though, is whether he's making progress as he can cover lack of technique (in ballroom and latin) with polish and presentation. I guess it's always an issue for the ones who come in with a strong dance background to demonstrate a j******y.

Yes that is the problem the trained people have - showing progress it will be interesting to see how it goes - in latin he does have a couple of issues he can correct - like losing the stage dance way he approaches some steps - in the rumba this week waffy arms and at times some of his hip actions, in ballroom he is very good but can get 'skippy' at times small things but hope we see these go and see progression and just a tad more personality too would be good

Ore has said so categorically that he hasn't had training, that I'm inclined to believe him. It would be too easy to be shown up if it wasn't - and the backlash would be even worse than if he'd just admitted it.

I agree. I would be surprised if he had any formal training at all. He is probably a guy that has always enjoyed moving his body to some beat, but completely untrained. He has natural rhythm and ability to dance.

I'm not overly bothered whether Ore has had formal dance training or not, I just don't like him very much. Comes across as a bit fake. I think he was overmarked for his waltz which I thought wasn't good at all. I think he's the chosen one this year and the producers are going to be pushing him to win, maybe to counter the racism accusations of the early boots.

I really hope this was meant to be funny because it was the best line I've read on the forum all day.

Me too.

Some are just more able, have a gift for something. Most of us could have trained for years but still not ever get work as a professional dancer because we just don't have that gift.

I think Ore is a natural.

Typical posh boy head boy type.
Quite feminine actually.