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I think all the female hosts on Strictly are superb.
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Tess and Claudia are fine. If we are going to get anything fixed please can it be the terrible music choices and themeing? Please?
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They do what they're needed to do.
Tess is the straight "man" linking the contestants to their dances and to the judges. That's what she's there for. Claudia is the light hearted one and chats easily with the contestants in the Claudotrium, allowing time for and linking to the scores - that's what she's there for. Her jokes are corny and she knows it. But that's part of the fun. Neither make the show about them. That's what they're there for. |
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Tess and Claudia must be improving. They've survived until week 5 this year before someone has asked for them to be sacked!
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Tess and Claudia must be improving. They've survived until week 5 this year before someone has asked for them to be sacked!
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As I write this, I doubt there's a cat in hells chance of anything being done as I doubt the BBC would have the nerve to replace female presenters without the PCC brigade falling all over them. They are hoist on a petard of their own making which started with the stupid decision to get rid of Arlene and replace her with a young no-nothing.
But if there's anyone out there who has the nerve and who puts the good of the show before issues of gender correctness, they'll start looking. I joke about Tess sometimes, but the reality is both her and Claudia are excellent at their jobs. The show is a beast and they keep it running smoothly every week. As the Olly and Caroline experiment on the X Factor proved there is a lot more involved in hosting these shows than a quip and a cheeky grin. Strictly also calls for a certain character from its hosts, a sort of inoffensive warmth that doesn't upset its broad appeal. Your random assortment of men who are currently presenters wouldn't work: Walsh is too much of a showman and Norton and Clary are good natured hecklers. Tess excels at that kind of thing which can lead to accusations of dullness, but the show just wouldn't work with two Claudias hosting. |
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The Press Complaints Commission?
I joke about Tess sometimes, but the reality is both her and Claudia are excellent at their jobs. The show is a beast and they keep it running smoothly every week. As the Olly and Caroline experiment on the X Factor proved there is a lot more involved in hosting these shows than a quip and a cheeky grin. Strictly also calls for a certain character from its hosts, a sort of inoffensive warmth that doesn't upset its broad appeal. Your random assortment of men who are currently presenters wouldn't work: Walsh is too much of a showman and Norton and Clary are good natured hecklers. Tess excels at that kind of thing which can lead to accusations of dullness, but the show just wouldn't work with two Claudias hosting. |
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I love Claudia but I'm none too keen on Tess. Claudia can think on her feet, but it all sounds a bit scripted with Tess.
Also I think Claudia is much more confident than Tess; Tess tries too hard whereas Claudia is relaxed enough to crack the "odd" joke. Meg |
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Tess is good as long as she sticks to straight presenting rather than trying to be Fforsyth-lite.
Many of the alternative suggestions on here are cringeworthy tbh. Leave her alone, other than to encourage plain vanilla presenting. She's good at that and that is exactly what is needed. Claudia is ideal in the post dance slot; she is certainly more than capable of handling that and her ad-libs and humour work well there. She does not need the pointless extras such as the nth rate ventriloquist to help. She can cope perfectly well on her own. Save the cr*p acts for BGT where they would fit in well. |
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I tend to agree that Tess had an off night last night, and she has annoyed be a lot this series by constantly arguing with Craig over his remarks, even more so than she used to in previous series. However last night was an aberration to a degree with the missing Brendan and Laura having to take a bye. They were obviously scrambling to fill the time her dance and VT would have taken. She is much better than Bruce though, so that's a silver lining and I love Claudia, she is so funny and always makes me laugh.
However having been a fan of DWTS and Strictly for many years there is a glaring difference in the shows hosts. Tom Bergeron over on DWTS is smooth, funny, warm and gets on with the judges while still able to defend a contestant politely if need be. He is the epitome of a good host. Tess in contrast is loud, defends the contestants like she is defending her best friend and constantly does the 'they are on their feet' and the ever annoying 'look, look, take it all in' as if the contestants have suddenly gone blind and can't see the audience on their feet. It probably doesn't help that she has the producers muttering in her ear all the time which might distract her. When it comes down to it she simply might not have the experience or the temperament to be a good host for such a big, constantly changing show like this. Bergeron is 61 and has been in the business all his adult life. Maybe they need someone older, calmer and more in control to be the front host on the show. I am, by the way, not really criticising either Tess or Claudia but both of them are hosting SCD because of Bruce's retirement, not because they were picked as the outstanding frontrunners for the job of running the UK's top entertainment show. Jay Hunt made a huge blunder in getting rid of Arlene which went beyond the aberration that was the woeful Alesha Dixon. It meant that when Bruce left, the BBC would have had to have huge guts to change the surviving female hosts. Tess had served a lot of years in a role that must have been far from easy and where she had performed with skill and good humour. This absolutely did not mean she was suitable for the No 1 slot, but the Beeb didn't know what to do. And then there was Claudia and a huge clamour from the PC brigade to appoint two women and so the die was cast. Tess is a glamorous, competent No. 2. Claudia has more talent, but her milieu is small, intimate groups. not fronting a big show with a wooden No. 1. |
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Yeah Tess needs to go.
Claudia is fine, she can improvise, she can ad-lib and has a warm personality which comes across as genuine which is the total opposite of the Tess-bot. I would replace Tess with Anton. He has the personality and charm, knows his dancing so can intelligently defend the dancers if the judge's barbs get too harsh and would play off Claudia brilliantly, I'd also replace Len with Karen Hardy and make her head judge. Keep the other three so there's a nice balance across the judging styles. |
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Well said, agree with all your points.
I am, by the way, not really criticising either Tess or Claudia but both of them are hosting SCD because of Bruce's retirement, not because they were picked as the outstanding frontrunners for the job of running the UK's top entertainment show. Jay Hunt made a huge blunder in getting rid of Arlene which went beyond the aberration that was the woeful Alesha Dixon. It meant that when Bruce left, the BBC would have had to have huge guts to change the surviving female hosts. Tess had served a lot of years in a role that must have been far from easy and where she had performed with skill and good humour. This absolutely did not mean she was suitable for the No 1 slot, but the Beeb didn't know what to do. And then there was Claudia and a huge clamour from the PC brigade to appoint two women and so the die was cast. Tess is a glamorous, competent No. 2. Claudia has more talent, but her milieu is small, intimate groups. not fronting a big show with a wooden No. 1. Tess makes it look easy, it's a very very hard job, that she does very well. It's nothing at all to do with any PC brigade, they both worked on the show and Claudia worked on ITT, it was logical, same as Zoe stepping in a year or so back, a team, and actually would be very wrong to ignore that and bring an outsider in. Again, changes at XFactor on hosts killed the show dead. |
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No it needs the old host, shame that's not possible.
But I do agree Tess and Claudia are beyond awful, always have been. |
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Have you ever held down a live two hour TV show? Do you know how difficult it is?
Tess makes it look easy, it's a very very hard job, that she does very well. It's nothing at all to do with any PC brigade, they both worked on the show and Claudia worked on ITT, it was logical, same as Zoe stepping in a year or so back, a team, and actually would be very wrong to ignore that and bring an outsider in. Again, changes at XFactor on hosts killed the show dead. Just because I've never been a politician, doesn't mean I can't tell when somebody is performing and when they are not. I have gone to great pains to praise the job that Tess does. BUT presenting the UK's top light entertainment show is about far more than just keeping things running - and that is really all she does. Yes, the replacements for Bruce were logical but were they right? This is a top job that calls for top skills and neither Tess nor Claudia have them. I don't watch the XFactor but as far as I remember they exchanged one top class presenter, Dermot, for two duffers. To their credit they pretty soon realised their mistake and went cap in hand to the professional. |
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The Press Complaints Commission?
I joke about Tess sometimes, but the reality is both her and Claudia are excellent at their jobs. The show is a beast and they keep it running smoothly every week. As the Olly and Caroline experiment on the X Factor proved there is a lot more involved in hosting these shows than a quip and a cheeky grin. Strictly also calls for a certain character from its hosts, a sort of inoffensive warmth that doesn't upset its broad appeal. Your random assortment of men who are currently presenters wouldn't work: Walsh is too much of a showman and Norton and Clary are good natured hecklers. Tess excels at that kind of thing which can lead to accusations of dullness, but the show just wouldn't work with two Claudias hosting. I am fascinated you dismiss my suggestions because they are 'showmen.' This is exactly what we need, somebody with personality and years of experience fronting top shows who can judge the temperature and adjust their performance accordingly. Tess is simply not capable of upping her performance and Claudia, although I like her zany talent, has no place fronting a top show. |
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The Press Complaints Commission?
I joke about Tess sometimes, but the reality is both her and Claudia are excellent at their jobs. The show is a beast and they keep it running smoothly every week. As the Olly and Caroline experiment on the X Factor proved there is a lot more involved in hosting these shows than a quip and a cheeky grin. Strictly also calls for a certain character from its hosts, a sort of inoffensive warmth that doesn't upset its broad appeal. Your random assortment of men who are currently presenters wouldn't work: Walsh is too much of a showman and Norton and Clary are good natured hecklers. Tess excels at that kind of thing which can lead to accusations of dullness, but the show just wouldn't work with two Claudias hosting. I am fascinated you dismiss my suggestions because they are 'showmen.' This is exactly what we need, somebody with personality and years of experience fronting top shows who can judge the temperature and adjust their performance accordingly. Tess is simply not capable of upping her performance and Claudia, although I like her zany talent, has no place fronting a top show. |
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Just because I've never been a politician, doesn't mean I can't tell when somebody is performing and when they are not.
I have gone to great pains to praise the job that Tess does. BUT presenting the UK's top light entertainment show is about far more than just keeping things running - and that is really all she does. Yes, the replacements for Bruce were logical but were they right? This is a top job that calls for top skills and neither Tess nor Claudia have them. I don't watch the XFactor but as far as I remember they exchanged one top class presenter, Dermot, for two duffers. To their credit they pretty soon realised their mistake and went cap in hand to the professional. Tess is very capable, she also hosts Children in need, and has hosted The One Show, and a show re Mums on another channel. If you haven't done something you have an opinion, but lack actual skill and experience to know the background. Tess is very capable, and talented, some confuse the Newszoids sketch with reality. We do not want mistakes like loosing Dermot, seeing a terrible replacement mess up a show like Olly not knowing the rules, and brining the prior host back. SCD is not about the hosts but the team, if it ant broke do not fix it. |
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I thought last night's show was flat and borderline dull.
- but for me the problem that needs fixing is the hosts. ........ SCD is a show of three parts, dancers, judges and hosts. Balance is everything for SCD and last night we had lost dancers and the judges were out of sorts with each other. ...... As I write this, I doubt there's a cat in hells chance of anything being doneBut if there's anyone out there who has the nerve and who puts the good of the show before issues of gender correctness, they'll start looking. If you want to see overpaid male hosts injecting "class" and "magic" into a dull and repetitive show, try watching "Pointless" or "University Challenge". But "QI" has perked up now that Sandy Tostvig has replaced the (by now stir crazy bored) Stephen Fry. No reason for a 14-part show to score 99.5% for breathlessness every week; and Tess and Claudia do their best to deal with the utterly dire and stupid repetitive PC terms and conditions and rules of the game that are inflicted on the show each and every week. The other recommendation I would make to the OP is to find your remote and learn how to switch off. |
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Viewing figures of ten million for SCD and only six million for XF prove SCD " team" does well.
Tess is very capable, she also hosts Children in need, and has hosted The One Show, and a show re Mums on another channel. If you haven't done something you have an opinion, but lack actual skill and experience to know the background. Tess is very capable, and talented, some confuse the Newszoids sketch with reality. We do not want mistakes like loosing Dermot, seeing a terrible replacement mess up a show like Olly not knowing the rules, and brining the prior host back. Hosting Children In Need and The One Show (ugh!!) does not necessarily qualify you to run SCD SCD needs constantly to refresh itself. The hosts are currently the wink link as demonstrated in spades last night. Good is not good enough. |
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Tess IS capable
Hosting Children In Need and The One Show (ugh!!) does not necessarily qualify you to run SCD SCD needs constantly to refresh itself. The hosts are currently the wink link as demonstrated in spades last night. Good is not good enough. Not sure what any spades have to do with it either as it's not gardeners world. Having other talents like giving time for free to host CIN live shows skill. Good getting ten million viewers, means excellent. No need to ruin a good show with Julian Clary as you suggest.....
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Look, I'm not laying the blame for everything as the duo's door. There are masses of other things, not least the VT's that need fixing. Tess and Claudia may be 'fine' but fine isn't good enough. SCD is an ensemble piece, it isn't just about the dancers, nor should it have been all about Bruce. It needs three working parts to make it run on sparkling toes as it should.
Who should do it? Don't know. This is a decision for somebody who knows the business. People with the right skill set include Norton, Bradley Walsh, perhaps Clary, at a push maybe Anton. It should have been Wogan's gig - think how effortlessly he would have got the show out of trouble last night. The BBC know this, I am sure, but they simply dare not move the dull duo. You should stop all those lights flickering around the studio and lighting up the floor, because they get in the way of my being able to see what the dancers' feet are doing. And definitely no VTs shot on foreign soil, even though Paris is closer to the studio than Glasgow, and who paid for a camera crew to go to Malta! Otherwise, no point in Brexit vote, innit? |
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I would just like for Tess to NOT ask the dance off couple "how do you feel" it's a totally senseless question and often cringeworthy to watch the response.
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Personally I would vote for the cat in hell.
If you want to see overpaid male hosts injecting "class" and "magic" into a dull and repetitive show, try watching "Pointless" or "University Challenge". But "QI" has perked up now that Sandy Tostvig has replaced the (by now stir crazy bored) Stephen Fry. No reason for a 14-part show to score 99.5% for breathlessness every week; and Tess and Claudia do their best to deal with the utterly dire and stupid repetitive PC terms and conditions and rules of the game that are inflicted on the show each and every week. The other recommendation I would make to the OP is to find your remote and learn how to switch off. |
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Look, leave the OP alone. This person puts in lots of time and effort into "dishing" SCD .
Those of us who love the show gain great pleasure from it.- we are lucky we have remote controls where we can change channels quickly to the joys that are X factor/ Parents being Matchmakers / on ITV.. The OP obviously does not have this luxury. Their pleasure is writing copious amounts of negativity on this forum. Then people (like me) who reply add fuel to the fire. Their number of posts increase/ they become experts and people bow down to their superior knowledge- they think. This happens on many forums. So do not deny them the satisfaction they gain from this .they can hardly bear to watch SCD now) so have to do something productive on a Saturday / Sunday evenings and weekdays with ITT? |
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Please no!!! Bringing Bruce back would be a big mistake and step backwards. I think they should replace Tess though. Bring in someone with their own personality and not wooden.
I would like to see Zoe and Claudia presenting strictly but, who then could do ITT? |
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