I seem to remember 6 Music being almost entirely indie rock when it first started.

An interesting comment from Phill Jupitus about the early days:

"There were people at 6 who hated the fact I wouldn't play Coldplay records or Razorlight," says Jupitus. "But you can hear them on Radio 2, they are the biggest band in the world. Because a niche music station doesn't play Coldplay, is that a bad thing? They had a slogan at the beginning of 6 Music: 'We play what we like and nothing else.' I was playing a lot of shit in the early days, that kind of faux indie stuff I can't bear. I remember thinking: that poster's lying."

For some reason my fondest memory of Phill Jupitus on 6 is when he played the Native American song Witchi Tai To, which was apparently a hit in parts of the USA https://youtu.be/Sg9LT4qR_Dw but just not something you expect to hear on daytime radio in the UK.

Then your memory is wrong.

abba? acdc? eclectic?...

id have thought eclectic music was more easily discovered nowdays for those who really want to discover it. if you are waiting for mainstream radio to play something leftfield youll have a long wait. so if there are any 'walls' they are there by our individual consent because they dont have to be.

yep, in 'the good old days' radio dj's did use to promote tracks they (said they) rated, maybe they were paid to do so, maybe they werent (i guess the truth is that some were, but not all?) .

My music tastes only tend to be from a very small selection from the whole music spectrum. But within that small genre(s) pool I has a vast range of acts I enjoy some mainstream, some hidden gems - and there is always plenty more for me to discover within my only music bracket limitations.

The fact that they like both is where 'eclectic' comes in..

in case anyone doesn't know, beats one isn't a radio station. it's a streaming music service run by apple

I was referring to radio dj's aka radio presenters as that's really what most of them are doing, presenting a show rather doing much disc jockeying. in many cases they probably never even touch discs and in some there may be someone else pressing the play button

I'm sure with apple there's the same BS where you have to choose tracks on iTunes and follow a bunch of rules and you can't just pick a bunch of tracks you want in an eclectic mix of styles and expect apple to just let you do anything you want and pay you for it

I don't know how old you are, but back in the 80s when I last listened to radio, folk of that age were folk like terry wogan on radio 2 and not what kids would want to listen too. whilst those people may have some respect still today in some demographics, I doubt many teenagers would want to listen to and take seriously folk in their 50s in regards to the hot choons of now, and instead look for brain dead morons on youtube with ADHD

Perception of age is maybe different now. Wogan, John Peel and Annie Nightingale were all born within a couple of years of each other and so were all getting on a bit in the 80s, but nowadays they would probably be seen as national treasures rather than just old people whose opinions don't matter.

yeah i know that, but seriously, both groups are pretty much run of the mill for the genres they represent (and im not saying they rent any good) . id have thought more extreme examples - s club juniors and the mars volta - would have made more sense tbh.

As said earlier I think the sheer volume of music today makes DJs who see it as part of their job to find and promote new music is more important.

I wonder how many DJs today do what John Peel did and listen to new music from different genres every day to find something they like and want to introduce to their listeners.

As far finding new bands on Spotify it is a question of pot luck and I sadly don't have too much time to go dipping.

omg its not a streaming music service that is Apple Music, it is a radio station but you can only listen to it using iTunes App. You are just arguing without doing any research. these are all the DJs and the times they are on and they choose the music, its what Apple wanted them to do. Your 2nd paragraph is exactly what they do.

http://applemusic.tumblr.com/beats1

Heres a description

Beats 1
Thirdly, though, is Beats 1. This marks the company entering new territory: a youth-oriented radio station, broadcasting from California, New York and London, and featuring a host of stars behind the mic, led by former Radio 1 DJ Zane Lowe.

The brainchild of Nine Inch Nails frontman Trent Raznor, and staffed by a whole host of other employees poached from the BBC’s flagship music radio channel both on- and off-mic,

Also read this
https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...-1-apple-music

It's like I said: playlisters are the new DJs. Here you go; a selection of just some of the top new tunes around at the moment: www.spoti.fi/OQ15nN

Don't even have to go digging around on the internet for it like some people say you have to.

that warrants my hate vote for Chris Tarrant from now on then

you are wrong. it's not a radio station. it's not broadcast over radio. it's a streaming/download service provided by apple, competing with the likes of spotify. this is the type of alternative to radio that people look to. the type of alternative i was referring to in my earlier post

and i did research by checking before posting. perhaps you should do that next time. i suggests starting by actually bothering to read the last link you posted which includes...



as the article you posted a link to states, it's not radio, it's an aternative to radio

if people really have such an ecclectic taste as john peel they have multiple avenues for finding that music, but i think people with such tastes are few and far between and won't be interested in listening to radio. peel's choice was such that there was a lot of stuff played that people wouldn't like at all, which you had to sit through to hear stuff you may like. jools holland did a similar thing with his earlier shows where along with oasis or blur you had some african nasal flute band on which would have little appeal to people tuning in for blur or oasis

back in the 70s and 80s there were little alternatives to find new and intersting and differnent music, but today it's easy so shows like peels aren't really necessary

I think Peel along with John Walters were greatly respected and listened to during the 70s and 80s for curating their shows on Radio 1. I would say that their tastes were truly eclectic.

I agree with those who suggest that the increase in media outlets provides a much wider choice for the discerning listener. I like SomaFM which is a streaming internet radio service with a diverse range of curated channels.

ok it is not radio per se but its not a downloading streaming service either, its something different.

But when you listen to it it sounds just like I was listening to Radio 1 or any other traditional radio station not a bunch of songs being played one after the other. Anyway I don't listen to radio on radio anymore either as I use IPlayer which is the same thing as this. Its nothing like Spotify though that is Apple Music.

Anyway without having to find your own music or play playlists which tend to be stuck to the same genres or have no human input or output. Beats 1 music is picked by the DJS and some of the shows are extremely eclectic which is the point of this thread. Listen and you will see there are ways of listening without using ITunes.

Peel was totally unique and there will never be another like him. It wasn't just the music he played, some of which was irritating in the extreme, but the way he managed to establish an intimate rapport with his listeners, simply by being himself.

Peel was my main source of new music, but some of the stuff he played was unbearable, such as plinky-plonky, African steel drum tracks which went on for 20 minutes at a time. Then there were the horrific drum 'n' bass tracks, which sounded like being inside an MRI scanner – only speeded up. I feel sure he only played some of these so that he could nip out for a curry, such as the time he played the entire 20 minutes of Fripp & Eno's Heavenly Music Corporation backwards without realising it.

Peel literally changed "first world" radio forever by playing those tracks. He made it acceptable for British and American radio DJs to play pop, rock and dance music from African, Asian and Latin American artists and that still happens today on some more enlightened radio stations.

Kudos also to the late, great Charlie Gillett who did something similar on his Capital Radio show, but Peel by virtue of his status as a presenter on Radio 1 and the World Service made the eclectic format a worldwide phenomenon.

it IS a streaming/download service. the music is heard as a result of the data being streamed or downloaded to the listeners device as opposed to being broadcast over radio waves as per the traditional radio shows of the past 100 odd years that I was referring to. it's basically an alternative to old school radio using modern technology with an attempt to compete commercially against the likes of spotify and tidal etc

My bold. i believe this happens too. Very often this eclecticism consists of buying critically acclaimed albums regardless of genre i.e. not really eclecticism, more playing safe but not being discriminatory. I don't view eclecticism of musical taste as a quality anyway.


Yeah. The people whose opinions on music I tend to take heed of do this. They go really deep into a genre. Maybe they do like other things too but they don't discuss or play it.

From anyone? You are in danger of finding a great deal of music if you are looking hard. Why new music? What about old music? If music matters that matters too. Possibly even more. You won't have heard it all. It takes a long time to investigate just a small era within a given genre to any degree and you'll be finding stuff from that time frame forever more. Music is like an ocean. I doubt anyone seeks out anything and everything.

exactly this was what was released last week alone

http://everynoise.com/spotify_new_releases.html

over 11,000 hehe