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What do we want different for 2017?
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Ms Babs
23-10-2016
Few different threads about this series not having the usual good feeling, presenters/ dancers/ judges getting past their sell by date etc. So what differences would you like to see next year?

Here's mine

New Head Judge has to be a ballroom professional. I would like to see Karen Hardy in the role.

Presenters - If Tess chose to leave then I would like to see an entertainer as lead presenter. I do believe Anton could do the role but equally someone like Michael Ball with a musical theatre back ground.

Claudia is irreplaceable

First two weeks - one ball room and one Latin dance for each couple.

Stop making the dance fit the music ( e.g. Amarillo last night). If the producers insist on choosing the music for the dancers they have got to choose music that fits the rhythm and timing of the dance.
penelopesimpson
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ms Babs:
“Few different threads about this series not having the usual good feeling, presenters/ dancers/ judges getting past their sell by date etc. So what differences would you like to see next year?

Here's mine

New Head Judge has to be a ballroom professional. I would like to see Karen Hardy in the role.

Presenters - If Tess chose to leave then I would like to see an entertainer as lead presenter. I do believe Anton could do the role but equally someone like Michael Ball with a musical theatre back ground.

Claudia is irreplaceable

First two weeks - one ball room and one Latin dance for each couple.

Stop making the dance fit the music ( e.g. Amarillo last night). If the producers insist on choosing the music for the dancers they have got to choose music that fits the rhythm and timing of the dance.”

New hosts
CravenHaven
23-10-2016
I would like for 2017... that we live in the moment
penelopesimpson
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ms Babs:
“Few different threads about this series not having the usual good feeling, presenters/ dancers/ judges getting past their sell by date etc. So what differences would you like to see next year?

Here's mine

New Head Judge has to be a ballroom professional. I would like to see Karen Hardy in the role.

Presenters - If Tess chose to leave then I would like to see an entertainer as lead presenter. I do believe Anton could do the role but equally someone like Michael Ball with a musical theatre back ground.

Claudia is irreplaceable

First two weeks - one ball room and one Latin dance for each couple.

Stop making the dance fit the music ( e.g. Amarillo last night). If the producers insist on choosing the music for the dancers they have got to choose music that fits the rhythm and timing of the dance.”

'Tess choose to leave?'

Perhaps when she's offered Newsnight
Artois
23-10-2016
Go back to them all attempting the same two or three dances each week for comparison.
Clarify who does what i.e. stop blaming the celebs for things out of their control in the judging which seems to have become prevelent.
Judging should be more about the correct technique than it has become.
Stop using daft songs that don't fit the style to get down with the kids.
etp
23-10-2016
Teach Tess how to stand up straight
penelopesimpson
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by etp:
“Teach Tess how to stand up straight”

Spot on. I've often commented on her posture which is terrible. And she is such a beautiful woman. Looks awful when she wears halters or strapless
A.D.P
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“New hosts”

After starting a thread in that, and saying you have nothing against them, it's rather negative and repeatative.

Pity some posts are rather personal on her.
Cloudy2
23-10-2016
No ringers. Danny should not be a contestant. The show should be about learning to dance, I would rather see Ed win than Danny.

End of the dance off, lowest combined score goes.

The judges should have no say from the quarterfinals, it should be viewers votes only.
Chris1964
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Cloudy2:
“No ringers. Danny should not be a contestant. The show should be about learning to dance, I would rather see Ed win than Danny.

End of the dance off, lowest combined score goes.

The judges should have no say from the quarterfinals, it should be viewers votes only.”

I do agree ref Danny. Every contestant in Strictly history, even the very best, has had a journey and some vulnerability. Danny though, from the outset, looks like a pro. Its a hard call sometimes because there has to be a mix of standards and I don't imagine its easy to get the perfect blend. I think they have crossed a line with Danny though.
Polly-T
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ms Babs:
“Few different threads about this series not having the usual good feeling, presenters/ dancers/ judges getting past their sell by date etc. So what differences would you like to see next year?

Here's mine

New Head Judge has to be a ballroom professional. I would like to see Karen Hardy in the role.

Presenters - If Tess chose to leave then I would like to see an entertainer as lead presenter. I do believe Anton could do the role but equally someone like Michael Ball with a musical theatre back ground.

Claudia is irreplaceable

First two weeks - one ball room and one Latin dance for each couple.

Stop making the dance fit the music ( e.g. Amarillo last night). If the producers insist on choosing the music for the dancers they have got to choose music that fits the rhythm and timing of the dance.”

BIBs - agree -
I think Ballroom Giant has been chosen to replace Len?
Would like to see Anton as the main presenter and please keep Claudia
Also - Id like a return to fairer and realistic scoring - this year, the manipulation is even worse than last year.
I'd prefer less celebrities with so much prior training - there are too many this year, so it is hard to see any real progress being made by at least half of the celebrities - the programme still needs the 'journey' celebrities, IMO.
Polly-T
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“I do agree ref Danny. Every contestant in Strictly history, even the very best, has had a journey and some vulnerability. Danny though, from the outset, looks like a pro. Its a hard call sometimes because there has to be a mix of standards and I don't imagine its easy to get the perfect blend. I think they have crossed a line with Danny though.”

Danny isn't the only one with prior dance training - Louise Rednapp and Ore both had dance training too - it just hasn't really been highlighted in their cases
Guapacha2007
23-10-2016
I would like:
Result show to be shown live
VTs showing the couples training
A greater variety of dance styles
Doghouse Riley
23-10-2016
Don't hold your breath for anything you wish.

What you'll get is the mixture as before, unless the Rainbow Worrier can come up with another annoying initiative, in the constant quest for higher ratings.
The plus side of that is that as I record the programme, I'll have more to fast-forward through so that I can just watch the dancing. For me there will be the bonus of a bit more of my time not wasted.
Lordsally
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ms Babs:
“Few different threads about this series not having the usual good feeling, presenters/ dancers/ judges getting past their sell by date etc. So what differences would you like to see next year?

Here's mine

New Head Judge has to be a ballroom professional. I would like to see Karen Hardy in the role.my idea of hell

Presenters - If Tess chose to leave then I would like to see an entertainer as lead presenter. I do believe Anton could do the role but equally someone like Michael Ball with a musical theatre back ground. no, not for me, I'm afraid. He's regarded as a bit of a pillock round here

Claudia is irreplaceable Agreed

First two weeks - one ball room and one Latin dance for each couple. Agreed

Stop making the dance fit the music ( e.g. Amarillo last night). If the producers insist on choosing the music for the dancers they have got to choose music that fits the rhythm and timing of the dance Absolutely agreed .”

I've put my comments to yours in italics- mainly because I've just realised I can! good thread, may I say, OP x

I'd say promote Claude from the Tower and then bring in an ex contestant for the Tower, someone who knows how nerve racking it can be to be a contestant, an empathiser.

I think Tess is harmless enough, but she is an autocue babe and cannot seem to think on her feet

And let the pros pick the music, do the choreography, give them back the ownership of the whole dance production. Hell, let them govern the costume and make up. That way, if it goes wrong, they are accountable. At the moment, they're the production teams puppets and have very little say in what happens in their own dance.

And most of all, I'd like the production team to stop all this blimmin faffing with the fake VTs and see more real training videos with warts and all, I want to see the celebs stropping and being real under pressure.
Dervlathedog
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Polly-T:
“1. Danny isn't the only one with prior dance training - 2. Louise Rednapp and 3. Ore both had dance training too - 4. it just hasn't really been highlighted in their cases”

Umm... Forgive me, I added numbers to your post for clarity.

1. True
2. True
3. False
4. It has but (see 3.) with only partial correctness

Cheeky fifth: James Jordan isn't always right (or truthful for that matter)
Muggsy
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“Umm... Forgive me, I added numbers to your post for clarity.

1. True
2. True
3. False
4. It has but (see 3.) with only partial correctness

Cheeky fifth: James Jordan isn't always right (or truthful for that matter) ”

What?!!

You mean putting #FACT doesn't make something the ultimate truth?
postit
23-10-2016
Tess really, really needs a good bra
londongirlGre
23-10-2016
As it is a popularity contest based around dancing, I would rather see loads of Danny and Ores than loads of Eds. When I watch Strictly, I want to see good dancing.
Tejas
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Polly-T:
“Danny isn't the only one with prior dance training - Louise Rednapp and Ore both had dance training too - it just hasn't really been highlighted in their cases”

Ore has not had dance training!

As for the question... how long have you got? In brief though, a whole new attitude to the judging with some or all new judges. And the increasing manipulation needs to be stopped, its like they're not even trying to hide the fact that they're taking us all for fools anymore.
Dervlathedog
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“What?!!

You mean putting #FACT doesn't make something the ultimate truth?”

I seem to remember the Bosnian Serbs had the culturally agreed notion that if they held their bollocks under the table they could promise any bloody thing in negotiations with impunity. I would guess #FACT is that level of probity
Lordsally
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“You mean putting #FACT doesn't make something the ultimate truth?”

I stopped following him on Twitter because he did that

If that was your friend in a pub, saying 'FACT' after every statement, you pretend to go loo and leave.

He's become odious and an add-on to Ola's Ann Summers career. A very bitter little man.
Arcana
23-10-2016
More Cliftons. 😈
Mystical123
23-10-2016
Basically get the producers to go back to series 5 and put the show back to the way it was then - no themes (weeks or dances), no gimmicks, full length dances, proper music, proper costumes, all celebs reaching the final dancing all the dances, a properly competitive final with only two (or at most 3) couples, Argentine Tango left to the semi-finals, proper training videos, good pro dances, good celeb group dances etc. Only thing I'd add would be the Charleston.

As for judges, new head judge has to be a ballroom professional. Get rid of Darcey and replace her with a Latin professional. Just as long as it isn't Karen Hardy. Wouldn't object to Anton being a judge.

Pros - replace Oksana, have AJ and Chloe for pro dances and demos but not with partners, give Neil a celeb partner. Give Natalie and Karen contenders and Kevin the least likely winner.

Celebs - no duffers, that is all.

Presenters - Claudia can stay but I wouldn't be upset in the slightest if Tess was replaced.
Miriam_R
23-10-2016
Originally Posted by Ms Babs:
“Few different threads about this series not having the usual good feeling, presenters/ dancers/ judges getting past their sell by date etc. So what differences would you like to see next year?
”

If they want to change the hosts then fine, but no Bruce return, even for Xmas specials (let his tv career rest in dignity). I don't actually have a major problem with Tess and Claudia at the moment, nor do I care about what the genders of our hosts are and that combination.

Get rid of the VTs that have no real connection to the week's training, the dance itself or relationship of the couple. What's the point of wasting this time. Training footage wasn't boring before, but the acting in the fake VTs really is.

I would like the new judge to be of the Ballroom/Latin world that can actually give the expertise (that Craig, Bruno and Darcy only know in theory) from understanding it from a life's work. I wouldn't mind if it's a new face to the Strictly audience either.
I wouldn't be against ex Pros being the new judge, but would now in a way pref a new face to break up the typical stuff we see/hear from Craig, Bruno and Darcy. It might even bring about a new dynamic on the panel with a new face with legit knowledge.
^^^
I don't mind if it's another female, but it would be perhaps interesting to have a proper Professional critique from a female for a change, given Len was the male critique for years. But I wouldn't be against another male, as long as someone that has knowledge and works well with the add'age of tv.

I'm glad we see some mins of the Pro training footage, I requested that (on a forum, maybe the old BBC one) a few series ago, along with requesting an hour for ITT and having a post final interviews. Others did too, so nice to know some of our collective wants made it to the show. On ITT now I just wish they cut out that pointless music segment with the juke box and just use those mins to add on to couple interviews (they're short already and those music type segments are pointless to expand on beyond a sentence).

Reduce some of the cheese of the show. The show can have warmth to it and fun without being cringe (thought some will say it's lasted this long with it). The sad jokes that Bruce had to churn out still rear their head now, and Tess would be better if she just did straightforward links rather than try to funny it up. At least when Claudia is doing it it looks more natural as Claudia is a, well, Claudia.

Wardrobe can maybe get males wearing tails a bit more often. I know making things stretchy enough to move with the dance is pref, but tails over the years have been adapted for pro dance and tv dancing so surely they can still be used with ease on Strictly like used to be. I'm not even that old fashioned, apart from this.

I don't mind the bottom two dance off, but from the quarters votes should be public alone. I also don't think there should be a head judge vote. If four judges are split, we should then go to the public vote and the person that got the least goes. Most of the time there is a majority so it won't be often they'll be split 2 and 2.
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