Let the pros choose all their own music. Only intervene when more than one want the same track: in which case draw lots for it.
What do we want different for 2017?
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Originally Posted by Cloudy2:
“No ringers. Danny should not be a contestant. The show should be about learning to dance, I would rather see Ed win than Danny. ”
“No ringers. Danny should not be a contestant. The show should be about learning to dance, I would rather see Ed win than Danny. ”
To put it simply:
Would I watch a show full of Dannys? Yes
Would I watch a show only composed of Eds? Jesus, no!
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“To put it simply:
Would I watch a show full of Dannys? Yes
Would I watch a show only composed of Eds? Jesus, no!”
“To put it simply:
Would I watch a show full of Dannys? Yes
Would I watch a show only composed of Eds? Jesus, no!”
I don't think I've ever seen a post on DS that I have agreed with more!
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“To put it simply:
Would I watch a show full of Dannys? Yes
Would I watch a show only composed of Eds? Jesus, no!”
“To put it simply:
Would I watch a show full of Dannys? Yes
Would I watch a show only composed of Eds? Jesus, no!”
Agreed!
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“To put it simply:
Would I watch a show full of Dannys? Yes
Would I watch a show only composed of Eds? Jesus, no!”
“To put it simply:
Would I watch a show full of Dannys? Yes
Would I watch a show only composed of Eds? Jesus, no!”
The opposite for me. I would happily watch a set of complete beginners (whether celeb or ordinary folk doesn't matter) slowly picking up new skills. But watching a show made up of 'ringers' would bore me
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“The opposite for me. I would happily watch a set of complete beginners (whether celeb or ordinary folk doesn't matter) slowly picking up new skills. But watching a show made up of 'ringers' would bore me”
“The opposite for me. I would happily watch a set of complete beginners (whether celeb or ordinary folk doesn't matter) slowly picking up new skills. But watching a show made up of 'ringers' would bore me”
If I had to pick one or the other it would have to be the "Dannys", but I'm happy the way it is now, we need a balance, a bit of both.
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“The opposite for me. I would happily watch a set of complete beginners (whether celeb or ordinary folk doesn't matter) slowly picking up new skills. But watching a show made up of 'ringers' would bore me”
“The opposite for me. I would happily watch a set of complete beginners (whether celeb or ordinary folk doesn't matter) slowly picking up new skills. But watching a show made up of 'ringers' would bore me”
You do remember this show lasts only three months.
1. Bring back Aliona
2. Give Natalie a ringer who everybody loves
3. Get rid of the incredibly annoying Judges entrance
4. Get rid of all the stupid VT's, rather see them training
5. Stop all of Claudia's terrible jokes. I'd say get rid of her but everyone else seems to love her
6. Maybe find a way to split tied score couples. Would stop all the shock DO's due to people in the middle.
2. Give Natalie a ringer who everybody loves
3. Get rid of the incredibly annoying Judges entrance
4. Get rid of all the stupid VT's, rather see them training
5. Stop all of Claudia's terrible jokes. I'd say get rid of her but everyone else seems to love her
6. Maybe find a way to split tied score couples. Would stop all the shock DO's due to people in the middle.
I'd like to hear more traditional music used more often especialy for ballroom. Not all the time but sometimes. I don't like it when they shove music in 3/4 so they can use it for a waltz, sometimes it works but usually it sounds weird and could confuse contestants, pros and singers. But songs in 3/4 aren't that common so it is difficult.
As lots of other people have said, do proper VTs with training footage, maybe talking about training but no irrelevent stuff that makes you cringe and probably makes them dance worse as they're not practising..
More contestants with different levels of ability, too many instantly good people this year.
I liked the older format with lots of celebs doing the same dances for the first few weeks, charlestons, sambas etc held back for a bit longer. I love a clever charleston that is genuinely funny, don't like the ones that are all about comic effect. There are so many different things you can do with a charleston but your restricted with beginner dancers (tho Claudia and Sophie Ellis Bextor did do good early charlestons so maybe I'm talking rubbish again)
I like the theme weeks but the main thing should still be doing the best possible dance
maybe make all the rules clear at the start, with Anastacia and Laura (and previous contestants) it was all about 'according to the rules of the show', we should know the rules or where to find the rules from the start
Agree that whoever replaces Len should fill the same role as him with real expert advice, would rather have someone I've never heard of who knows their stuff than a big name who might boost ratings but knows nothing.
As lots of other people have said, do proper VTs with training footage, maybe talking about training but no irrelevent stuff that makes you cringe and probably makes them dance worse as they're not practising..
More contestants with different levels of ability, too many instantly good people this year.
I liked the older format with lots of celebs doing the same dances for the first few weeks, charlestons, sambas etc held back for a bit longer. I love a clever charleston that is genuinely funny, don't like the ones that are all about comic effect. There are so many different things you can do with a charleston but your restricted with beginner dancers (tho Claudia and Sophie Ellis Bextor did do good early charlestons so maybe I'm talking rubbish again)
I like the theme weeks but the main thing should still be doing the best possible dance
maybe make all the rules clear at the start, with Anastacia and Laura (and previous contestants) it was all about 'according to the rules of the show', we should know the rules or where to find the rules from the start
Agree that whoever replaces Len should fill the same role as him with real expert advice, would rather have someone I've never heard of who knows their stuff than a big name who might boost ratings but knows nothing.
More novice dancers
Better age range (some 50 and 60 somethings
I love presenters
I wouldn't change the professionals they're great
Better age range (some 50 and 60 somethings
I love presenters
I wouldn't change the professionals they're great
Originally Posted by James_Laverty:
“1. Bring back Aliona
2. Give Natalie a ringer who everybody loves
3. Get rid of the incredibly annoying Judges entrance
4. Get rid of all the stupid VT's, rather see them training
5. Stop all of Claudia's terrible jokes. I'd say get rid of her but everyone else seems to love her
6. Maybe find a way to split tied score couples. Would stop all the shock DO's due to people in the middle.”
“1. Bring back Aliona
2. Give Natalie a ringer who everybody loves
3. Get rid of the incredibly annoying Judges entrance
4. Get rid of all the stupid VT's, rather see them training
5. Stop all of Claudia's terrible jokes. I'd say get rid of her but everyone else seems to love her
6. Maybe find a way to split tied score couples. Would stop all the shock DO's due to people in the middle.”
Love this! Natalie should get a decent partner - it is long overdue.
I would
Replace Tess with someone like John Barrowman, Michael Ball or even Zoe Ball
Let the pros and contestants pick their own music - musical choices are terrible - except for Ore who seems to have good music every week.
Replace Len with someone who has experience in judging - Karen Hardy, Darren Bennett, Lydia Kopolova - or someone new!
Eliminate ridiculous VTs and replace with real training footage.
Eliminate over and under marking of contestants and try to have judges keep their obvious favourites to themselves.
Get a few older pros - this year most of them look very young!
Agree with another poster to eliminate judges' scoring from quarter-finals.
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“If I had to pick one or the other it would have to be the "Dannys", but I'm happy the way it is now, we need a balance, a bit of both.”
“If I had to pick one or the other it would have to be the "Dannys", but I'm happy the way it is now, we need a balance, a bit of both.”
I agree.
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“To put it simply:
Would I watch a show full of Dannys? Yes
Would I watch a show only composed of Eds? Jesus, no!”
“To put it simply:
Would I watch a show full of Dannys? Yes
Would I watch a show only composed of Eds? Jesus, no!”
This is exactly what I said last week to a friend!
Quote:
“6. Maybe find a way to split tied score couples. Would stop all the shock DOs due to people in the middle.”
“6. Maybe find a way to split tied score couples. Would stop all the shock DOs due to people in the middle.”
What they should do if a couple tie with another, is to give the points in a different manner. The BBC is the only place where a list is presented like this. After a tie the next couple down should be two points down, or if three couples are tied the next lowest should be three down!
Something like this:
Quote:
“John and Jane 38 - 5
Mary and Peter 36 - 4
Harry and Liz 36 - 4
Ginger and Fred 32 - 2
Tom and Janet 30 -1”
“John and Jane 38 - 5
Mary and Peter 36 - 4
Harry and Liz 36 - 4
Ginger and Fred 32 - 2
Tom and Janet 30 -1”
Difficult to explain but the points should be spread evenly.
1. Someone familiar with ballroom & Latin for Head Judge - I'd go for Ian Waite.
2. Less faffing - fewer props; if a dance is supposed to be danced in hold then have it danced in hold, not 25% in hold and the rest wafting / sitting on a park bench (even if the bench is contracted to appear in more shows than half the pros)
3. Music chosen to fit the dance, with a suitable time signature - not shoehorned in to appeal to disillusioned ex-X-Factorites. There are thousands of great songs that have never been used yet which would work brilliantly (and some of them are even - gasp - quite recent).
4. Fewer pointless themes - I don't mind Movie/Musicals (although should be one or the other, not both) week and Hallowe'en week, but random dances in a non-theme week don't need a ridiculous "story" that will overpower the dance à la the Rinder Cow.
5. Less nastiness on the forum. Disagreement is fine, debate is fine, not liking something is fine but every year I think the level of mudslinging and downright rudeness - toward celebs and other FMs - can't get any worse, and every year some people manage to prove me wrong.
2. Less faffing - fewer props; if a dance is supposed to be danced in hold then have it danced in hold, not 25% in hold and the rest wafting / sitting on a park bench (even if the bench is contracted to appear in more shows than half the pros)
3. Music chosen to fit the dance, with a suitable time signature - not shoehorned in to appeal to disillusioned ex-X-Factorites. There are thousands of great songs that have never been used yet which would work brilliantly (and some of them are even - gasp - quite recent).
4. Fewer pointless themes - I don't mind Movie/Musicals (although should be one or the other, not both) week and Hallowe'en week, but random dances in a non-theme week don't need a ridiculous "story" that will overpower the dance à la the Rinder Cow.
5. Less nastiness on the forum. Disagreement is fine, debate is fine, not liking something is fine but every year I think the level of mudslinging and downright rudeness - toward celebs and other FMs - can't get any worse, and every year some people manage to prove me wrong.
1. No Len's lense
2. No more Len Goodman
3. Get rid of Clown Claudia, ggrrr
4. No Grand Entries for the judges
5. Make Craig head Judge
2. No more Len Goodman
3. Get rid of Clown Claudia, ggrrr
4. No Grand Entries for the judges
5. Make Craig head Judge
I would like to see a second show, that just has under 21 contestants it might become more earnest , but none with any dance training
Remind the judges they have paddles from 1-10 not 6-10 (except Craig)
More honesty, constructive criticism if fine, its what they should expect
More beautiful costumes and less theatre costumes
but most of all
BRING BACK MATTHEW CUTLER (I live in hope, no hope to be honest, but hope)
More honesty, constructive criticism if fine, its what they should expect
More beautiful costumes and less theatre costumes
but most of all
BRING BACK MATTHEW CUTLER (I live in hope, no hope to be honest, but hope)
Get rid of Tess, Len and Craig.
Head judge Karen Hardy
Claudia as sole presenter or at least head presenter.
Get rid of that so-called Steadicam (or unsteadicam as I call it) and give the TV audience more of the view the judges and studio audience get.
Let's have Lucy Verasamy, the ITV weather presenter, on as a celeb next year. For beauty, charm and the obvious figure and bearing of a dancer, she should have been on long ago.
Head judge Karen Hardy
Claudia as sole presenter or at least head presenter.
Get rid of that so-called Steadicam (or unsteadicam as I call it) and give the TV audience more of the view the judges and studio audience get.
Let's have Lucy Verasamy, the ITV weather presenter, on as a celeb next year. For beauty, charm and the obvious figure and bearing of a dancer, she should have been on long ago.
Originally Posted by Tiggywink:
“1. No Len's lense
2. No more Len Goodman
3. Get rid of Clown Claudia, ggrrr
4. No Grand Entries for the judges
5. Make Craig head Judge”
“1. No Len's lense
2. No more Len Goodman
3. Get rid of Clown Claudia, ggrrr
4. No Grand Entries for the judges
5. Make Craig head Judge”
Making Craig head judge makes as much sense as making Adolf Hitler head of Amnesty International!
Superglue the audience to their seats, if only to stop Tess saying "they're on their feet!".
Stop the audience cheering and whooping just because there is a key change in the music, or a contestant is raised half an inch from the floor.
Get back to proper music to suite the dance and give all the contestants the same opportunity to wear proper attire, instead of also rans being given the comedy outfits to go with comedy routines, e.g. Judge Rinder
No props and faffing about - I'm sure the dances used to be longer going back a few years.
Stop the audience cheering and whooping just because there is a key change in the music, or a contestant is raised half an inch from the floor.
Get back to proper music to suite the dance and give all the contestants the same opportunity to wear proper attire, instead of also rans being given the comedy outfits to go with comedy routines, e.g. Judge Rinder
No props and faffing about - I'm sure the dances used to be longer going back a few years.
Originally Posted by penelopesimpson:
“New hosts”
“New hosts”
Names please...
Originally Posted by Artois:
“Go back to them all attempting the same two or three dances each week for comparison.”
“Go back to them all attempting the same two or three dances each week for comparison.”
Agree with this 100%
Originally Posted by Polly-T:
“Danny isn't the only one with prior dance training - Louise Rednapp and Ore both had dance training too - it just hasn't really been highlighted in their cases”
“Danny isn't the only one with prior dance training - Louise Rednapp and Ore both had dance training too - it just hasn't really been highlighted in their cases”
Source please...
Mine are repeats:
1) Music to fit the dance style
2) One ballroom and one Latin in first two weeks
3) Love Claudia but I wish they would stop the stupid jokes, she is better than that.
4) Improve on the costumes. Some are absolutely fab others, mens trousers for example rarely sit nicely. Womens costumes, particularly on the older lady , are dismal eg Lelseys on Saturday/Sunday made her look frumpy..
1) Music to fit the dance style
2) One ballroom and one Latin in first two weeks
3) Love Claudia but I wish they would stop the stupid jokes, she is better than that.
4) Improve on the costumes. Some are absolutely fab others, mens trousers for example rarely sit nicely. Womens costumes, particularly on the older lady , are dismal eg Lelseys on Saturday/Sunday made her look frumpy..
Originally Posted by nyannie:
“
I would
Replace Tess with someone like John Barrowman, Michael Ball or even Zoe Ball
Let the pros and contestants pick their own music - musical choices are terrible - except for Ore who seems to have good music every week.
.”
“
I would
Replace Tess with someone like John Barrowman, Michael Ball or even Zoe Ball
Let the pros and contestants pick their own music - musical choices are terrible - except for Ore who seems to have good music every week.
.”
BIB1: Heaven forbid!!!
- he is THE most annoying guy on TV bar none - and I would not want him polluting one of my all time favourite shows.BIB2: "Geronimo"?? "Hot Stuff"??
I'll leave it right there...
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“This is exactly what I said last week to a friend!
What they should do if a couple tie with another, is to give the points in a different manner. The BBC is the only place where a list is presented like this. After a tie the next couple down should be two points down, or if three couples are tied the next lowest should be three down!
Something like this:
Difficult to explain but the points should be spread evenly.”
“This is exactly what I said last week to a friend!
What they should do if a couple tie with another, is to give the points in a different manner. The BBC is the only place where a list is presented like this. After a tie the next couple down should be two points down, or if three couples are tied the next lowest should be three down!
Something like this:
Difficult to explain but the points should be spread evenly.”
That exactly what the system was till the whole Tom Chambers fiasco, so no chance they'd return to it after the trouble it caused.
I remember for that years Christmas special, four couples all scored 39 so they asked Len as Head Judge to rank the couples to break the tie. Not ideal but it could work.
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