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Old 23-10-2016, 21:43
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I have been using TP Link 300mpbs pass though powerline adapters two years with the Youview box in living room ever since the TP link 200mpbs ones seemed to pack in.
The TP Link 300mbs work mostly fine just once in a while picture seems to go off for a few seconds while watching an HD multicast channel via BT TV. They work mostly fine other wise.
My question is would it make much difference if I got ones that was a bigger mpbs.
I like the pass though ones as you don't lose a plug socket.
My Infinity download speed is about 68mb 98% of the time via Ethernet to my laptop and just under 50mb via Wi-Fi.

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Old 23-10-2016, 22:01
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Plug your laptop into the router directly via a cable. Turn off WiFi on the laptop to make sure it is using the cable connection. Run a speedtest like that.

Now go to the remote Powerline adapter and plug the laptop directly into it via a cable. Run another speedtest.

Compare the results. If they are roughly the same then changing the Powerline adapters is going to make not one jot of difference. Your connection can only run as fast as the slowest link in the chain. Which should be your broadband connection. Increasing the speed of your link from router to BT TV box will have zero effect on how fast it can stream from the internet.

What will make a difference is how many people are using your broadband connection at the same time and what they are doing. More people downloading large files or streaming lots of HD video at the same time will have much more effect on the BT TV service.
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Old 23-10-2016, 22:45
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Thanks for the reply and info.

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Old 24-10-2016, 23:44
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Powerline adapters are BAD TECHNOLOGY that cause interference to your neighbours and should never be used. Use a direct cable connection, it is cheaper and faster, and does not cause illegal interference.
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Old 25-10-2016, 00:57
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It was only a matter of time before Winston showed up on a Powerline adapter thread. This thread now has the official Winston_1 seal of approval

(For more info:http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2032654 )
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Old 25-10-2016, 10:06
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Powerline adapters are BAD TECHNOLOGY that cause interference to your neighbours and should never be used. Use a direct cable connection, it is cheaper and faster, and does not cause illegal interference.
If they cause "illegal interference", how can they be allowed to be sold?

And why are they a BAD TECHNOLOGY?

They are a legal, usable solution for many people who simply don't have the option to use a direct cable connection.
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Old 25-10-2016, 10:17
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If they cause "illegal interference", how can they be allowed to be sold?

And why are they a BAD TECHNOLOGY?

They are a legal, usable solution for many people who simply don't have the option to use a direct cable connection.

Ignore him, we all do, lets just say he seems to have "issues" about a number of things but he is harmless unless of course he is your next door neighbour.
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Old 25-10-2016, 10:41
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Ignore him, we all do, lets just say he seems to have "issues" about a number of things but he is harmless unless of course he is your next door neighbour.
Yes, I have just read the thread linked earlier. There's 10 minutes of my life I won't get back...

It is like any technology. Ban those devices that do not conform with the regulations but there is no need for a "blanket" ban for these products.
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Old 25-10-2016, 10:44
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Yes, I have just read the thread linked earlier. There's 10 minutes of my life I won't get back...

It is like any technology. Ban those devices that do not conform with the regulations but there is no need for a "blanket" ban for these products.
If you really want to get Winston going, then tell him not only are you planning to use PLTs throughout your house, mention you're replacing all your TVs with shiny new Panasonic sets. That ought to get the steam coming out of his ears at the thought you won't be able to receive Irish or French TV channels, despite the fact you're not bothered by them
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Old 25-10-2016, 13:25
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If they cause "illegal interference", how can they be allowed to be sold?
Because they don't cause interference, Winston is crazy about them, and permanently posts completely made up claims about them.


And why are they a BAD TECHNOLOGY?
They aren't, except in 'winston world'
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Old 25-10-2016, 17:41
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Powerline adapters are BAD TECHNOLOGY that cause interference to your neighbors and should never be used. Use a direct cable connection, it is cheaper and faster, and does not cause illegal interference.
Your neighbors could get more interference from a microwave than PA's.

You need to go and talk to someone about the obsession with the adapters you have, its reached the 'unhealthy' stage.
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Old 25-10-2016, 20:06
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If they cause "illegal interference", how can they be allowed to be sold?

And why are they a BAD TECHNOLOGY?

They are a legal, usable solution for many people who simply don't have the option to use a direct cable connection.
Many things that are bad are sold. Tobacco for example.

They are bad technology because they inject wideband RF into mains cabling which it was never designed to carry. As a result this mains cabling radiated this RF as interference.

Anyone has the option to use a cable connection, it is less visible than aerial or satellite cable. They are legal to sell but causing interference is not.
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Old 25-10-2016, 20:07
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Because they don't cause interference,
Yes, they do. There is plenty of evidence about it on the web.
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Old 25-10-2016, 20:11
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Your neighbors could get more interference from a microwave than PA's.
Microwave ovens operate on 2450MHz only and are screened to avoid radiation.

Homeplugs operate wideband from 2 to 300MHz and deliberately inject it into long unscreened cables.

There is no comparison.

PS. How did you manage to quote my original post and change my correct spelling of neighbours to an incorrect version?
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Old 25-10-2016, 20:33
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My word, three posts in a row, 20:06, 20:07 and 20:11. Perhaps you should sit down with a nice cup of tea and think about what you are going to post first, before doing so.
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Old 25-10-2016, 20:55
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Yes, they do. There is plenty of evidence about it on the web.
You mean there's an incredibly tiny amount of 'evidence' on the web - and most is from people like yourself who make wild exaggerations all the time.
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Old 25-10-2016, 23:15
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Forget the neighbors - any PLA inteference is going to be strongest in the PLA user's house. Do we hear folk saying 'I had to stop using my PLAs because I got terrible buzzing on my TV, hifi, radio, computer speakers etc' ?

answer = no
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Old 26-10-2016, 07:09
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Powerline adapters have improved over the years.
I plugged my laptop into the powerline adapter in living room and I got a speed of about 50mb.
My laptop plugged directly into the BT Home Hub using Ethernet gets speeds of just over 68mb 98% of the time. That's when I'm not using the internet for much.

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Old 26-10-2016, 09:00
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Microwave ovens operate on 2450MHz only and are screened to avoid radiation.

Homeplugs operate wideband from 2 to 300MHz and deliberately inject it into long unscreened cables.

There is no comparison.

PS. How did you manage to quote my original post and change my correct spelling of neighbours to an incorrect version?
Need to check my spell checker. I had ZERO issues up at my radio last and the PLA is about a metre from my main rigs. HiHI 73
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Old 26-10-2016, 09:01
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My word, three posts in a row, 20:06, 20:07 and 20:11. Perhaps you should sit down with a nice cup of tea and think about what you are going to post first, before doing so.
Don't be a rude little poppet Anthony, be a nice boy.
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Old 26-10-2016, 10:30
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Don't be a rude little poppet Anthony, be a nice boy.
The problem is actually with Winston, who's approach seems to be all or nothing.

And whilst he prefers all, most of us think it would be better if it were nothing.
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Old 27-10-2016, 11:54
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Many things that are bad are sold. Tobacco for example.
I said bad technology, tobacco isn't an example of that.

They are bad technology because they inject wideband RF into mains cabling which it was never designed to carry. As a result this mains cabling radiated this RF as interference.

Anyone has the option to use a cable connection, it is less visible than aerial or satellite cable. They are legal to sell but causing interference is not.
The problem is that all of the sites that support your claim all have vested self-interest with reports being anecdotal rather than factual.

I would also contest your assertion that "anyone has the option to use a cable connection" because that isn't always the case at all. Cost considerations being the main one for many.

Yes, those PLAs which are shown to cause interference should be banned, but there seems to be no evidence at all it is a universal problem with all PLAs.
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Old 27-10-2016, 14:40
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Forget the neighbors - any PLA inteference is going to be strongest in the PLA user's house. Do we hear folk saying 'I had to stop using my PLAs because I got terrible buzzing on my TV, hifi, radio, computer speakers etc' ?

answer = no
TV operates above 300MHz. HI FI and computer speakers are not RF devices. That leaves radio. If it is DAB no buzzing, just no output. SW radio is the most commonly affected. Many folk don't use it but many official bodies do.
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Old 27-10-2016, 14:43
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Yes, those PLAs which are shown to cause interference should be banned, but there seems to be no evidence at all it is a universal problem with all PLAs.
The problem is the fact that they are connected to mains cables which are not designed to carry data. All PLAs will cause interference when so connected as manufacturers cannot change the laws of physics.
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Old 27-10-2016, 15:51
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SW radio is the most commonly affected. Many folk don't use it but many official bodies do.
Which official bodies use short wave in areas where PLAs might be used and for what purpose?
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